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May 27, 2021 at 11:14 am #64974romanes
Yes, the grainy screen surface is probably what bothers me about the P2415Q. Thank you for noticing that!
I’ve checked your article and I would be open to get either the Philips 288E2UAE or the LG 32UN650. How is the screen surface of the LG compared to the Philips? Moreover, does the LG just have a bigger screen or is there anything in particular that it does better than the Philips?May 27, 2021 at 11:20 am #64976PCM2
I can’t comment on the screen surface of the LG specifically as I haven’t seen it in person. The recommendation for the LG is based on largely positive user experiences with that model – they’re usually impressed by how much monitor you get for your money and enjoy the overall big screen ‘4K’ experience. But I haven’t received any detailed feedback on the screen surface texture. Another thing to be aware of is that LG has a ~95% DCI-P3 colour gamut whereas the Philips has ~87% DCI-P3. The difference is mainly in the green to red region and this gives some shades a more saturated and vibrant appearance on the LG. With the Philips some shades will appear less ‘overdone’ as a result and more as intended – personal preferences would dictate which is preferred. I wouldn’t expect this difference to affect the viewing comfort side of things, specifically.May 27, 2021 at 5:11 pm #64978romanes
Yes, thank you very much this helps a lot.
One more thing I am not really sure about if these monitors are TÜV eye-safe certified. Both of them have a flicker-free & blue light mode and have some sort of TÜV certification (Philips: ISO9241-307, with the LG I have no idea), but TÜV does certify other things as well, so I am not sure if it is regarding the eye safety features. Also, I am not sure how important the certification ultimately is, but it seems to me like a good thing to have, right? Some brands like Benq heavily market how safe it is for the eyes but with Philips and LG you cannot find specific information about that.May 27, 2021 at 5:15 pm #64982PCM2
TÜV Eyesafe certification is very specific and means a monitor has patented technology from US-based company Eyesafe. This includes a significant shift in the blue peak to a less energetic wavelength and a reduced amplitude of the peak. This will be described in more detail in our upcoming XV282K KV review. Relatively few products are certified in this way, but that doesn’t mean they are bad for viewing comfort. The first panel manufacturer to really push things in this direction is Innolux, who also makes the panel for the 288E2UAE (288E2E). That one is not Eyesafe certified, specifically, but has certification for flicker-free and blue light levels through TÜV. I don’t have the equipment to measure it, but it’s possible the blue peak is slightly shifted as well – much like Innolux did with their panel used on the likes of the BenQ EX2780Q.May 30, 2021 at 5:36 pm #65012uncia
Our eyes are unique to each of us, of course. So how we perceive things such as a monitor is subjective. I realize a more technical calibration is necessary, but for now this works. I agree that a lot is missed out on the technical side of things. We still perceive a lot in ways difficult to convey. Human senses are analog. That’s a lot messier than the digital, neat, math of a colorimeter. I do find this model pleasing for daily use now. The sRGB color space is better overall than the full gamut. I don’t like the intensity of the reds, still almost neon, though I’d use it for HDR content if I were viewing it. I haven’t any games of that type to try though.
Nor can I do much testing right now due to the limitations of my graphics card. It doesn’t look like I’ll be able to replace it anytime soon. So with daily use and media viewing to go by, I’m enjoying the experience. Gamma being set properly loses some of the initial contrast, so I’d recommend some users leave it alone if they’re not needing to do color critical work, or don’t mind black crush. I don’t want to lose darker shades when working with graphics and photos, so I’ll leave it at 2.2.
There has been a new development. Whether I was simply too excited to be using a new monitor at first or it’s developed since, there is now a single dead pixel in the upper right quadrant. I’m watching the monitor to see if any others develop. It’s not immediately obvious, seeing as how small the pixels are, but it’s also not something I can unsee now that I’ve noticed it. I’m not sure it’s worth sending a monitor in for a replacement over something so small though. Nor is there any guarantee a replacement wouldn’t have a dead pixel/s. There’s no telling what you’ll get with BLB either. The gamble is entirely unfair with the cost of displays. I have noticed IPS is less likely to have dead pixels. I’ve never seen one on an IPS display, but every VA I try out seems to have at least one. I have two weeks left in the return window, so I’ll keep an eye out. I do want to stick with this model. If further pixels show up, I’d just get a replacement.
I’ll note last that there is definite color shift when changing viewing angle. I’d noticed this before. It’s most easily picked up on when viewing screen tests of solid colors. It’s not a major issue with daily use though. I’d not let it put people off buying it. OD is still set at 60 for 100Hz. This video card definitely has something wrong with it. I’m still erring on giving credit to something with that LG’s displayport damaging it. Though there’s no way to know if it’s causation or just correlation. 100Hz it will have to be for now. It’s not a bad experience even with this limitation.
Further thoughts will be posted as they come. I’d like to give feedback after a longer period of use.
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