August 18, 2017 at 5:04 pm #44382
now I’m sitting on my 10-year-old Philips 190WV and well, now I’m going to study on a Collage where I’m going to learn among others some basics of graphics, creating web pages and so on. So, I thought I will need a new monitor for that staff. I’m also young, so I play games sometimes too.
I’m considering between the BenQ BL2711U and the Dell P2715Q. The BenQ costs in my country $575 USD and the Dell $685 USD, so the price is not so huge between them.
Which is better for me? Is it worth it to pay more for the Dell?
Thanks in advance. 🙂August 18, 2017 at 5:05 pm #44386August 18, 2017 at 5:36 pm #44389
thank you for your anwser. Do you know maybe if the Dell has something like FlicerFree? I coudn’t find anything about it on the net.August 18, 2017 at 5:39 pm #44390August 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm #44395
Thanks for the fast answer. Wow, it’s a really huge review, respect for that work. So, thanks to you, I will probably buy the Dell. 🙂 However, I read a lot of reviews at Amazon, where “Professionals” are writing that they monitor came with some defects, like dead pixels etc. Is it possible for me, I mean someone, who only worked with a really standard monitor, to catch out these defects, like not the right, washed out colors, uneven backlight etc.? If I become mine, may I ask you to check (if it’s of course possible) it, sending you some sample photos? 🙂 I just want to make sure, that I become everything, for what I paid for. 🙂
Thank you in advance. 🙂August 18, 2017 at 7:21 pm #44396
Unfortunately such defects are a fact of life for modern monitors. Any model can suffer from them and the Dell P Series is certainly no more prone to them than others. If you’re expecting perfection then you’re setting yourself up for a lot of stress and disappointment. That isn’t to say you should accept huge clusters of defective pixels are massive amounts of backlight bleed – and the nice thing about Dell is that they will generally help out with replacements for those sorts of issues even after the retailer return period has expired.
I wouldn’t advise taking photos of backlight uniformity unless you’re able to capture them in a realistic way that is representative of what the eye sees and avoids capturing ‘IPS glow’. And to be honest, I wouldn’t go to such lengths to look for defects like that. If it doesn’t bother you or jump out at you during normal use, it isn’t a problem. Too many users expect perfection and go looking for issues – and many of them set themselves up for a great deal of stess and disappointment. Some will never be satisfied, and that’s just a sad state to be in.August 18, 2017 at 7:51 pm #44398
The viewing distance was about 90cm.
On average the brightness was 40% or less.
I would alternate between Warm & Paper settings. Warm was better most times but I still had to reduce the brightness.
I have re ordered the Samsung C27F591 which I found to be the most usable of the two. I think that since most of PC usage involves text work the Dells were too strong ( if that’s a suitable term for a monitor).August 21, 2017 at 10:38 pm #44406
Note: Discussions on the CF591 were moved to an appropriate place – https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/best-27-fhd-monitor/page/8/November 1, 2017 at 3:05 pm #45203
I am wondering if Asus MG24UQ 24″ is a good option here in terms of graininess and color accuracy? Has anyone tried this monitor?November 1, 2017 at 5:02 pm #45204
The ASUS MG24UQ uses the Samsung LTM236FL01, which is the same panel used in the ViewSonic VX2475Smhl-4K that we’ve reviewed. You can therefore get a reasonable idea of what to expect from it by reading that review. As with all current UHD models of this size, the screen surface does have a bit of graininess to it. Furthermore, there are issues with static interlace patterns as raised in the review.November 9, 2017 at 10:37 am #45261
As per our news piece on the Samsung U32H850, it uses a similar panel to the AOC U3277PWQU. With its grainy screen surface, poor colour consistency and motion issues it simply isn’t in the same league as the PD3200U. However; it could still be a decent enough choice, depending on your uses. You state that you do not play games, but didn’t state what you actually need to use the monitor for.
The LG models are better in these respects as they at least use IPS panels. Users have reported them to have a good factory calibration, good 60Hz motion performance and a decent enough screen surface (i.e. not overly grainy). However; users also report interlace pattern artifacts – so some shades appearing with faint bands of a slightly lighter and darker variant of the shade. Given the price difference between the cheaper of those models and the BenQ PD3200U seems to be negligible I don’t see the draw of the UD89 over the BenQ really.November 9, 2017 at 11:15 am #45263
Just a side note, I wouldn’t bother with the 27UD88 over the 27UD68. It doesn’t offer any substantial improvement and certainly doesn’t justify an extra €100. Which is why the ’68’ is featured as a recommendation instead. This is based on a user who actually ‘upgraded’ from a ’68’ to an ’88’ because he thought there’d be a good reason for LG replacing the former with the latter. However; he found performance extremely similar and couldn’t really work out why he’d bothered. He is into photo editing and design and has a keen eye for colour and detail, too. I’m sure in time, when the ’68’ is properly disconituned, the ’88’ will become the natural choice but will also become cheaper so that the price is in line with the current ’68’ price.
Speaking personally, I can actually use 27″ UHD models without scaling, but even I feel things are just too small. Not unreadable for me, but just ‘too small for my preferences’ without scaling. I feel having the extra physical screen space and not being so reliant on scaling is a huge plus with ~32″ models like the BenQ, so I would pay the extra myself. But it’s something you’d have to weigh up for yourself. 🙂November 29, 2017 at 8:38 am #45599
Of relevance to this thread, the Dell 15Q models now support HDMI 2.0 – https://twitter.com/pcmonitors/status/935773551986184192January 8, 2018 at 8:01 am #46426
I’m looking for a pair of 4K IPS displays to replace my aging Dell U2711s. The Dells have served me well for a few years and I’ve appreciated the amount of real estate they have offered me for photo and video editing.
I noticed Lenovo has a new affordable wide-gamut UHD display, the P27U-10. Ordered those but while the panel seemed to be acceptable, the build quality and osd interface was just terrible… So I sent them back for a refund.
Now I’m eyeing the new Dell U2718Q. It’s not a wide-gamut model, but then again I haven’t REALLY needed wider than sRGB for the last six years with my U2711s… And I can keep those with my secondary computer if needed. So the U2718Q sounds like a reasonable choice.
In many reviews the U2718Q is compared rather unfavourably to it’s predecessor, the P2715Q. But AFAIK most of the critique can be tracked down to the DisplayPort color clipping bug, which is now fixed in the latest firmware. Are there any other reasons not to get the Dell? One thing I’m a bit worried is image persistence – this has been reported to occur in the LG 27UD68/69, which uses the same (or almost the same) panel. Can anyone confirm if the U2718Q is free of any such burn-in problems?
Another option I’ve been pondering is to stretch my budget a little and get a pair of 32 inch BenQ PD3200Us. I’d appreciate the extra real estate especially in the vertical direction (damn that they don’t make big 3:2 displays). But I wonder if two 32″ monitors in dual configuration would be too wide for practical use, and exaggerate IPS glow etc in the farmost edges. The PD3200U also has the mysterious glitch problem which would occur twice as frequently with dual monitors… But still the thought of having two huge canvases for my work intrigues me…
Any thoughts? How would these monitors (and any other similarly priced ones) compare for example regarding uniformity (my main gripe with displays), blacklight bleed and viewing angles?January 8, 2018 at 8:12 am #46429
Hi kanot and welcome,
Firstly, sorry that you had such a hard time registering. I checked the logs and the website spam filter went a bit crazy as you tried to register with several similar names/email addresses in a short space of time. Obviously you aren’t a spammer, it just gets confused sometimes.
Secondly, sorry for putting your post here instead of keeping your dedicated thread up. I am quite fond of this thread and like to keep it going. It also has some relevant information, as does this recent thread. Including from somebody who from my email correspondance appears to have upgraded from a U2711 (or used one previously) to a PD3200U and may be able to give some additional guidance. As I point out in that thread, earlier on in this thread and in the review I simply feel that ~32″ is the optimal size for the ‘4K’ UHD resolution. You said you were intrigued by the prospect of having two of these as your work canvas. I would too, I think it would be great. And if budget and space allowed, I would overlook other ‘issues’ in favour of this solution.
As to the question of backlight uniformity, backlight bleed and related issues… That varies between individual units, so it is too difficult to cross-compare different models in that respect. People are generally happy with the BenQ in that respect. You’re correct about the larger screen potentially giving more ‘IPS glow’. In reality, though, the PD3200U has lower ‘glow’ than you might expect from a screen of its size. And the ‘IPS glow’ on the 27″ models is pretty significant anyway. It also depends on your viewing distance.
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