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  • #46488
    RukoPlay

      Hello PcMonitors! I purchased the cf591 a year ago, unfortunately I broke the lcd ๐Ÿ™ I was a very good monitor, and gladly will purchase it again, but now Iโ€™m leaning towards 4K tech for future proof. Under your consoles recommendations I found the 27UD68, I need it for console gaming only, but looking at some reviews from Amazon I read it incompatible with consoles, so I decided to read your in-depth review about this model, but I couldnโ€™t find. Are you sure itโ€™s 4K compatible with consoles?
      Any other model you recommend me over this model for 4K console gaming under $500? Too bad Samsung donโ€™t have a gaming 4K VA :/ (..I guess)

      My priorities: Picture quality/fast response, equally important

      #46489
      PCM2

        Which games console are you talking about, specifically? The LG 27UD68 supports HDMI 2.0, so there is no reason why it wouldn’t run correctly on 4K-capable games consoles. There is a setting called “HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color” in the OSD that needs to be enabled/ set appropriately so that could catch people out who don’t FTFM.

        P.S. I’m sorry for your loss (of a monitor you enjoyed).

        #46495
        RukoPlay

          Yeah, I should work, maybe It was plugged to hdmi 1 or was non sense comment on Amazon. anyways, Iโ€™m about to purchase the U32H850 or the U32H750, not sure whatโ€™s the difference between them though or if you recommend it

          #46499
          PCM2

            Refer to the news article, which your post has prompted me to update (thanks! ๐Ÿ™‚ ). As noted, it uses the same panel (same CELL with different backlight) as the AOC U3277PWQU, so that review will give you a decent idea of what to expect. Be prepared for a slightly grainy screen surface and some weaknesses in pixel responsiveness. If you sit some distance from the screen and aren’t too sensitive to these issues, the monitor could well be decent. The Samsung has a more tame colour gamut as well, which helps as this was a key issue I had with the AOC. The UH750 is just a slightly tweaked variant with slightly newer firmware (not clear what differences there are in that respect). Samsung just provided this re-brand for some retailers because people were confused by the fact there was the U28H750 and U32H850 when they were intended to be in the same series.

            #46547
            RukoPlay

              Well, I give my vote for a review of this Monitor. Hopefully the pixel response is better than AOC U3277PWQU, and on par with other Quantum dot models like cfg70, crossed fingers

              #46549
              PCM2

                I think a lot of weaknesses were down to the panel when it came to pixel responsiveness, so let’s not get carried away thinking responsiveness will be on par with models using completely different panels… We won’t be reviewing the monitor as Samsung doesn’t have any samples. They’re being very selective at the moment about which models they offer for review.

                #46589
                gbnd

                  Hello,
                  I am looking for a 4k display to my pc, i want it to have the most vivid image that there is for pc monitors, mainly for movies and some video editing.
                  If i would be able to game with this monitor it would be great but it is not a must.
                  Thanks for the help ๐Ÿ˜€

                  #46592
                  PCM2

                    Hi gbnd,

                    This thread covers the topic, so I’ve put your post here. The recommendations section is also worth a look. It would also help if you had a budget and size in mind.

                    #47319
                    BluesFanUK

                      Two years on and still searching for the right 4K monitor. The requirement:

                      Size: 32″
                      Resolution: 4K
                      Connectivity: HDMI 2.0 (HDCP 2.2), DP 1.2+
                      Screen surface: Little to no Grain

                      I learnt my lesson not to buy blind when I got the Acer S277HK. The 27″ size is too small and contrary to some of the reviews, the screen surface was disgustingly grainy.

                      I’m running out of patience with the constant announcments from these companies and never following through with their products. What happened to all those 4K 120/144hz screens mentioned last January? 12 months on and nothing.

                      #47320
                      PCM2

                        I certainly sympathise, but can’t offer a solution at the moment. I was quite disappointed to see that BenQ (or panel manufacturer AUO, more specifically) went from using one of the smoothest matte screen surfaces out there (BenQ BL3201PT/PH) to a grainier one (BenQ PD3200U). It isn’t as grainy as most of the 27″ models and even those don’t bother everyone (it’s quite subjective), but I really don’t see the reason for the change.

                        It’s not really the monitor manufacturers themselves at fault, but the panel manufacturers. The Acer X27, ASUS PG27UQ etc. will be using a panel that isn’t due to go into production until H2 this year, so they’re on the way later this year. Unless of course further delays occur.

                        The LG 32UK950 is a model I’ve got my eye on, but I’d have to test it to determine the screen surface. And I’m sure I will one day, but LG are being an absolute nightmare with their review samples at the moment. I’ve been waiting since pretty much the very start of the year for the 32GK850G review sample but that still hasn’t materialised. I know Simon over at TFT Central has as well. This doesn’t inspire much confidence to be honest, I just hope they can streamline the process better in the near future.

                        #47323
                        PCM2

                          Have moved recent discussions from the panel thread to here.

                          #47324
                          BluesFanUK

                            Yeh I had my sights set on the PD3200U after the holding off on getting the BL3201PT, that was until I read the review here.

                            Did consider LG’s newest HDR monitor, though I’ve since given up on it, Windows doesn’t play well with it and not enough content, plus I got an LG OLED TV for that on my PS4/Netflix.

                            As alternatives i’ve heard decent things about the 328P6VJEB, though I only trust reviews posted here or at TFT, every other reviewer always seems to ignore the screen surface.

                            #47523
                            sts_pro

                              Hi everyone! I am new to the forum so my question could be a bit trivial ๐Ÿ™‚
                              I am thinking about buying a large 4K monitor, and so far LG 43UD79-B looks like the best option available. Matte screen is a one of the buying factors for me, so low haze Philips models and ViewSonic VX4380-4K aren’t too appealing to me, even being sold for a considerably less money.
                              However, as 43UD79-B is getting quite a mature model already, I am wondering if anyone knows about other 40+ monitors being expected to be released soon?

                              #47547
                              PCM2

                                Hi sts_pro and welcome,

                                Not a trivial question at all, a perfectly decent one. There is nothing in the pipeline for the near future that I feel would be of interest to you. That’s based on press information available to us, what is shown off at trade shows and also manfuacturer websites. If you’re interested in a large ‘4K’ screen with matte finish then I feel the LG 43UD79 would be a good bet.

                                #47616
                                PCM2

                                  Unfortunately what your post really highlights is inter-unit variation. Given your sensitivity to ‘poor calibration’, would it not make sense to invest in your own colorimeter? After all, monitors also change over time. So even if you’re lucky enough to have one with a very good factory calibration, it doesn’t mean it will be that way in several months or in a few years time. Banding is a common issue when you calibrate far away from the native gamma of a particular panel, unfortunately, but that is not specific to all LG models so I think you’ve just selected some specific models with known issues there. The 24GM79G uses the same panel as all of the other 144Hz 24″ TN models currently on the market, and it’s known to suffer horrendous inter-unit variation and common gamma issues.

                                  With your budget there are no suitable 32″ models out there. Just models with 31.5″ VA panels, which I wouldn’t ever recommend myself due to the very grainy screen surface use plus significant issues with responsiveness. Refer to our review of the AOC U3277PWQU, which is a typical example of what to expect as they all use a similar panel to that. Individual sensitivity to graininess and the pixel response time issues vary, so mileage may also vary. But you did specifically mention screen surface so I’d suggest avoiding them. My recommendation given your budget would be the LG 27UD68 which is featured in the recommendations section and mentioned earlier in this thread for good reason. With the remainder of your budget you should consider investing in a colorimeter, but that’s up to you really and would depend how you find the factory calibration of the monitor you end up with. The Dell P2715Q is also a solid performer, as is the more recent U2718Q.

                                  #47618
                                  PCM2

                                    A few important points to raise:

                                    1) Nothing wrong with recent Dell monitors in general. You got a bad sample, as per my previous post inter-unit variation is an unfortunate reality with modern monitors from all brands. Dell tend to come under a greater volume of scrutiny simply as they are popular and people are more likely to post negative rather than positive things.

                                    2) Interpolation varies between models. Just because a monitor is ‘4K’ does not mean it will do a good job at displaying the Full HD resolution. Some WQHD models are better at this than some UHD models. Refer to the relevant section of our reviews and you’ll see this is the case.

                                    3) This isn’t the place to discuss WQHD models, there are several other threads for that.

                                    #47842
                                    zbluebirdz

                                      Hi,

                                      I’m looking to purchase two monitors – a 32″ and 24-25″.

                                      I mainly do programming/coding, web-surfing, watching videos and the odd photo-editing. I will be using a mount to hold the monitors and be sitting 70-80cm away from them. The monitors will be used in a sunny room. My current video card is a MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB (I plan to upgrade to another card with more DP ports).

                                      For 32″ UHD monitor (primary & landscape mode)
                                      – BenQ EW3270U
                                      BenQ PD3200U

                                      For 24-25″ WQHD/UHD monitor (secondary & portrait mode)
                                      Dell Ultrasharp U2518D
                                      – LG 24UD58

                                      Questions:
                                      1) Is there much of a difference between the EW3270U and PD3200U?

                                      2) Is it worth spending an extra ยฃ200 for the PD3200U?

                                      3) Would the LG 24UD58’s picture quality be comparable to the Dell U2518D?

                                      4) Any issues in using/viewing these LG/Dell monitors in portrait mode?

                                      #47847
                                      PCM2

                                        Hi zbluebirdz and welcome,

                                        1) There is as considerable difference between the BenQ EW3270U and the PD3200U. The former uses a VA panel, similar to that used in the AOC U3277PWQU. So contrast is stronger and colours are potentially more vibrant, but that’s where the advantages end. Colour consistency & accuracy, pixel responsiveness and the screen surface smoothness all suffer. On that last point, it’s something which for me prevents me from recommending any model using that panel or a variant of it.

                                        2) Yes, for the reasons above.

                                        3) The LG 24UD58 uses a similar panel to the Dell P2415Q. So it’s a decent monitor really, but the screen surface would again be my main criticism and that doesn’t apply at all to the Dell U2518D. For me this can be a real thorn in the side for a ‘4K’ UHD screen as it works against the smooth and clear image they’re supposed to produce.

                                        4) None at all, the IPS-type panel is very forgiving for that.

                                        #47857
                                        zbluebirdz

                                          Thanks for the response and clarifying a few things.

                                          I’ll get the BenQ PD3200U shortly.

                                          I did have a look at the Dell P2415Q, but due the price, it was crossed off my list. Will be revisiting the 24/25″ UHD monitor space at a later date.

                                          #47942
                                          Alacorn

                                            Hello, wish to thank you for all your awesome reviews! Best monitor reviews in the world! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                            Here is my question, I’m looking for a glossy VA panel at least 30-inch and suitable for PC gaming (at least average at it), but also great for text reading and watching movies.

                                            So far I’m considering LG32UD59-B, maybe you can tell me about something better? Would be really grateful. ๐Ÿ™‚

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