[Jerk48]

Since the April update for the PS5, can the Acer XB253Q GP finally be used to do 1080p 120hz?

[PCM2]

HI Jerk48,

I haven’t received confirmation either way, but I’m working on the assumption it can’t. Which is why we don’t list support for that in our gaming monitor recommendations section. And suggest a workaround in the review (end of ‘Features and aesthetics’ section). That workaround should work very reliably if it doesn’t work out the box. It basically just creates a 1080p @120Hz resolution in the correct format for the PS5. Alternatively I’d suggest the EX2510 which is compared to the Acer in this thread – primarily from a PC gaming perspective but a lot applies to console gaming as well. Or indeed its bigger brother, the EX2710.

[PCM2]

We’ve just published our review of the Acer XV282K KV, which is the first model we’ve looked at with HDMI 2.1. I really enjoyed the high refresh rate experience on that model as a PC user, but when asked whether I’d recommend it purely for console gaming on YouTube it gave me pause for thought. I agree that having HDMI 2.1 and 120Hz ‘4K’ UHD support can be nice in theory for the consoles. Yet in practice, you really need the content to be targeting good high frame rates as well. Which is difficult to achieve on some titles. But it can also be nice to have the ability to drive native ‘4K’ at 60Hz, whilst having the option to run lower resolutions at 120Hz for those more demanding titles. You can’t do that on 60Hz ‘4K’ monitors and lower resolution monitors don’t give you the same experience when running downsampled ‘4K’. So I think HDMI 2.1 can be a nice thing to have and the Acer could well give you a really nice and flexible experience there.

On the other hand, HDMI 2.1 will eventually be very widespread. It will be found on models of different sizes and superior HDR capabilities. And some of these will ultimately be more affordable (the Acer is $900 USD currently). As covered in the review I didn’t find the monitor well tuned for lower refresh rates, either. If you run the monitor at a static 120Hz as a console user (no VRR) the overshoot would be reasonable. But at significantly lower refresh rates, which could occur when frame rate dips under VRR or simply a static 60Hz, the overshoot becomes quite strong. The way some console gamers are looking at HDMI 2.1 is as something aspirational that would be nice to have eventually. But they’re happier sticking with more cut down models at the moment, without the same resolution and refresh rate combination. High refresh rate WQHD (1440p) or 60Hz ‘4K’ UHD models such as those we recommend here and in this thread, for example. Without HDMI 2.1, though, you won’t get any VRR support on the PS5 (if or when Sony finally enables that feature) and I know this can be make or break for some users.

[goodroot]

Hey there I am interested the Acer XV282k monitor. 🙂

If you run the monitor at a static 120Hz as a console user (no VRR) the overshoot would be reasonable. But at significantly lower refresh rates, which could occur when frame rate dips under VRR or simply a static 60Hz, the overshoot becomes quite strong.

I’m not sure what you mean — does this monitor not adapt to whatever refresh rate is appropriate? It’s not clear to me, given my slim level of knowledge, whether this is a drawback of this specific monitor or a commentary on refresh rates in general. Is it not the case that this monitor, if the source is 4k/120 on ps5 or xbx, it will adapt. If it’s 4k/60, it will also adapt. Therefore, I am not sure that the relevance is of overshoot. :))

Thanks for all the sweet info.

Cheers!

[PCM2]

Hi goodroot,

Monitors have certain tuning for the voltage surges used for their pixel overdrive or grey to grey acceleration, which affects the pixel response behaviour. The level of voltage (level of ‘acceleration’) required is reduced as refresh rate decreases. Many monitors, including the Acer, have their pixel overdrive tuned with high refresh rates in mind – the monitor does not adjust this if it’s running at a lower refresh rate like it ideally would, because it lacks variable overdrive. So with these strong voltage surges designed for higher refresh rates still being used at lower refresh rates, some pixel transitions end up ‘overshooting’ their desired end point. Leading to a different shade than intended being displayed. One that can be much brighter for example and might stand out for that reason. That’s the issue this model has at lower refresh rates. This behaviour is specifically explored in the review (both video and written review) in the appropriate section on VRR. And also in the responsiveness section if you look at how the monitor behaves at 60Hz in the pursuit photos.

P.S. If you’re not familiar with the terminology used I’d also recommend looking at our responsiveness article which covers this sort of thing.

[frog7162]

LG 32UL750-W 32″ UHD 4K Monitor with VESA Display HDR 600

^ the monitor I might buy for my PS5

Hi, I’ve made a post about the monitor above asking if it is suitable for PS5 gaming, I didn’t get an answer. My post just disappeared. Could you take a good look at it and see if it is compatible with the PS5?

Thanks

[PCM2]

Your post disappeared because you failed to follow the rules. The 32UL750 includes HDMI 2.0 so it will run at 3840 x 2160 @60Hz on the PS5. It’s discussed elsewhere on the forum including in this thread, but note that you can just refer to it as the 32UL750 – because the ‘W’ simply refers to the fact it has a white rear.

Edit: I see you attempted a follow-up post after my own reply (this post), without acknowledging the reply. Asking about the EW3270U – which is discussed elsewhere in the forum. Including in this thread where it is explicitly covered alongside the LG model you mentioned. My time is precious and I don’t appreciate people wasting it by failing to follow forum rules, failing to use the forum search facility or failing to read existing posts placed prominently in the very thread they’re posting in.

[PCM2]

Just to add that some further thoughts on the current 28″ 144Hz ‘4K’ UHD models with HDMI 2.1 can be found in this thread. I’ve already covered my main criticism of the Acer XV282K KV earlier in this thread – pixel overdrive tuning at lower refresh rates. It is now clear this applies to pretty much all models using the same panel and this again would stop me strongly recommending them to console gamers. Having said that, I’ve also received plenty of feedback from users of the likes of the Acer XV282K KV, ASUS VG28UQL1A and Gigabyte M28U where they’ve been perfectly happy with them for both PC and console gaming at a range of refresh rates. So as I always say, sensitivity to overshoot varies and as with everything to do with monitors it’s all very subjective. That point aside I feel the overall image quality and balance they offer with image quality and responsiveness is very good, especially for high refresh rate gaming.

[Monty1089]

Hey guys.

I am new to the forum also I am from Australia ✋

I am looking at upgrading my old 27″ 1080p Asus monitor. It is the Asus MX279H. It has served me well since I bought it in June 2016. I use it on the PS5.

Now I want to start enjoying 120hz fps gaming like Vanguard and Rainbow Six Siege.

I have narrowed down my list of gaming monitors to a few. I have done lots of research but still can’t make a decision lol.

Here are the choices in no particular order:

1. AOC 24G2 (around $250 AUD when on sale otherwise closer to $300 however right now it is closer to $330)
2. BenQ EX2510(S) ($404 delivered from BenQ for the new S model. The older EX2510 is over $400 AUD from a few places
3. Acer XB253Q GP (around $275 AUD on sale now but closer to $350 when not on sale)
4. Gigabyte G24F (similar pricing to AOC 24g2 and under $300)
5. Asus VG259QR ($329 on sale right now and hovers around mid $300)

I actually liked the Acer XB253Q GP however I keep reading reports on this discussion forum that it doesn’t support 120hz on the PS5. That can be solved by buying an EDID emulator but that costs a lot of money which puts me onto another monitor range like the Asus or closer to the BenQ.

Has this 120hz thingy changed on the Acer XB253Q GP or is still not 120hz on the PS5?

My other option is to also wait right now for a potential January update on the PS5 that may bring out 1440p resolution option that can allow me to look at 1440p monitors but then this changes the pricing completely. I need to then look at closer to $450 AUD to $600 for a good budget 1440p gaming monitor. The Dell S2721DGF normally goes on sale in Australia around the $400 mark and under $450 which is what I would pick if Sony adds 1440p to the PS5.

However this is a big IF that Sony will add 1440p to the PS5 as a resolution. So my goal is still to have a monitor selected to go if the 1440p dream fails.

So is there any other good 1080p 24″ monitors that I can add to the list? Also can someone confirm if the Acer XB253Q GP still cannot accept 120hz over PS5 without buying the EDID emulator? There was an update on the PS5 early last year to allow monitors to accept 120hz over HDMI so not sure why the Acer doesn’t work still.

Also yes in Australia everything is expensive: tv’s, monitors, computer equipment, food, water, everything is expensive. EVERYTHING IS EXPENSIVE!

Thanks in advance.

[PCM2]

G’day Monty1089,

I look at pricing in Australia from time to time and agree, it’s usually on the high side and somehow certain models that are considered ‘budget’ elsewhere become anything but!

From what I understand the XB253Q GP does still have issues running 120Hz on the PS5, the resolution simply isn’t listed in the EDID of the monitor in a PS5-friendly way. From your list I’d consider the BenQ EX2510(S) to be an excellent choice as it provides a solid 120Hz performance and gives a good ‘rich and natural’ look to things. The ‘S’ variant is exactly the same as the ‘base model’ that I’ve praised before, except that a maximum 165Hz refresh rate is supported for PC usage. So it’s going to give you a very similar performance to the EX2710 we’ve reviewed, just scaled back (so lots of flexibility with settings in the OSD, strong 120Hz responsiveness etc.)

The AOC 24G2 is also worth considering, particularly if you like things to look more vibrant and saturated than the developers intend, due to the wide colour gamut. It isn’t quite as responsive as the BenQ models at 120Hz, but it’s still pretty fast. It has an edge in contrast and the screen surface is a bit less grainy (relevant comparison). The Gigabyte G24F will also provide this more saturated look to things (to a lesser extent), but as with the VG259QR I’ve only received relatively limited feedback on it and it’s been pretty mixed. Calibration often seems wonky and some people have reported some curious issues with screen blanking, coil whine and suchlike. Just not enough positive feedback or hands on experience so aren’t ones I’d be happy recommending. 🙂

[Monty1089]

Thank you very much for the reply 🙂

Yeah we pay almost double for everything. The budget 1080p monitors are mid range for us. An iPhone 13 Pro max 256gb is $2019 AUD !!!!!!!!! Yes 2 grand.

Anyways I thought that Acer monitor was great but I don’t really want to be spending extra money on an EDID emulator because then it will push me closer to a price of a better monitor so I may as well skip the Acer XB253Q GP altogether.

I am on the lookout for a BenQ EX2510 or the ‘S’ version. If I can get either on the cheap I will this instead. Otherwise if it is too expensive then I might settle on either the AOC 24g2 or the Gigabyte G24F if the price settles on $250. Both seem good so whatever is the best value I will buy.

I did some research on the Asus VG259QR and yeah it did get mixed reviews. Also for an extra $50 I could get the BenQ EX2510 instead which is a killer 1080p gaming monitor.

I will keep this thread updated on what I buy.

Cheers.

[Monty1089]

Update:

I thought I would let everyone know I bought a BenQ EX2510 monitor. It was a refurbished monitor for the BenQ Australia website. I paid $199 plus $25 delivery.

It was either this BenQ or the AOC 24G2 as these are the most recommended gaming monitors that are quite cheap. Although the BenQ is ridiculously overpriced in Australia at over $400 brand new.

I actually got it delivered last week so have been using it for around a week. I couldn’t find anything physically wrong with the monitor and did all the light bleed tests and dead pixel checks and couldn’t see anything wrong. The monitor was a vendor return from Amazon and the reason was “defective”. So who knows because BenQ state on their website all refurbished units are repaired and have one year warranty.

Anyways in terms of the monitor it is amazing. I have never ever played on anything above 60fps so 120fps is incredible on the PS5. It’s like you are gliding when you are running in call of duty vanguard. Everything is so smooth and fluid. The picture quality is great too. However I haven’t played around with any of the settings so the default setting is fine with me.

I definitely recommend this gaming monitor for the PS5. If you have never experienced gaming on a 120hz monitor absolutely get one. If you can’t get this monitor then the next best seems to be the AOC 24g2 or even the Gigabyte G24F. Get into 120hz gaming since it is so good.

Cheers.

[PCM2]

I’m glad you’re enjoying the experience! 🙂

I remember the first time I had a proper go with a 120Hz monitor, which was the original BenQ XL series model (XL2410T). It was nowhere near as good as the BenQ EX series in terms of image quality, but that extra fluidity when I hopped into Battlefield 3 (I think it was) was quite something. I’ve been using purely 60Hz monitors for a bit over a month now so I’ll get to experience the joy of switching back to a high refresh rate soon. You’ll get used to it and it will become the new normal – but if you have to run some things at 60Hz you’ll wonder how you coped all those years. 😉

[Tom]

This is a bit of a tricky one for me and I have no idea where to start. I recently got a PS5 and I’m using it with my LG 27GL850-B however at 60hz (which is what the PS5 runs at most of the time) the input lag is 14ms, I can notice this slightly, I’m used to PC gaming at 144hz so I am sensitive to it

I’m just not really sure which monitors currently tick all the boxes for the PS5… I think my current monitor handles the resolution pretty run because it downscales 4k to 1440p I think, since the PS5 doesn’t support 1440p

Are there any other monitors out there that can do that the same thing for the PS5 but with lower input lag at 60 hz ?

Thanks

[PCM2]

Hi Tom,

If you’re used to high frame rate PC gaming at 144Hz, 60Hz is going to have poor ‘connected feel’ regardless of the monitors signal delay and what would be traditionally measured for ‘input lag’. If you keep the monitor set to 144Hz and play PC games at 60fps (VRR disabled) how does it feel to you? Many alternatives are available with lower input lag at 60Hz, including those discussed in this thread. So the main ones I’d consider would be the Gigabyte M27Q, EX2780Q and MSI G273QF/QPF. The MSI has particularly fast pixel responses so given what you’re used to with the LG (also fast) that might be the one to try.

[Tom]

Thanks for your reply

It seems like the MSI G273QF/QPF is going to be the best one for me. Do you have any idea if it can downscale 4k to 1440p on PS5 like some monitors can ? My LG can for example. I was only able to find one person saying that it downscaled fine, but I’d rather know for sure before I make the purchase. Also it would be nice to know if I could handle 1080p 120Hz on the PS5

Thanks

[PCM2]

Yup. It includes a 3840 x 2160 (‘4K’ UHD) downsampling mode, meaning it will accept a 4K @60Hz (or 30Hz) signal. And is can also run at 1920 x 1080 (Full HD or 1080p) @ 120Hz and lists this in the EDID of the monitor in a way that the PS5 can read. MSI has a list of models which support these features here and they list the G273QPF – by extension that will include the ‘QF’ variant as well because it’s only the stand that’s different. It’s just that the ‘QF’ isn’t available in all regions and they don’t bother listing every variant of a model.

[Tom]

I purchased the MSI G273QF/QPF and so far I am very happy with it. Thanks for the suggestion. The colors are great and it’s very responsive. No issues apart from a small one…

When my PC goes into sleep mode, the backlight on the monitor stays on, I did some Googling and the only way to fix this is to turn the auto scan feature to off. This means that when I turn off my PS5 it doesn’t auto switch back to display port mode for my PC so I have to manually do it. It’s a bit annoying and it would be nice if anyone knows if a fix exists for this…

[Tom]

For anyone that might be interested the MSI Optix G273QF has come down in price in the UK to £249… I have just paid £345 for mine less than a week ago !

[Tom]

Another update

I’ve had to switch the MSI Optix G273QF monitor out 3 times now due to dead pixels. The 3rd replacement still has a dead pixel, but it’s on the edge of the screen so I’ll make do with it, but because of the pixel issues this monitor seems to have I can’t recommend it to anyone else

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