24” 1080p 144hz IPS monitors are finally here!

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  • #56519
    PCM2

    DacoPaco,

    I have not accepted your previous reply for a few reasons, one of which is that it’s completely off-topic for this thread. There are plenty of threads discussing the merits of ‘VA’ vs. ‘IPS’ and also plenty of guidance with respect to the models you were considering (LG 32GK850G and C24G70/73). The video you linked to showing the LG was a bit misleading. It clearly showed a difference between the two pixel overdrive settings, but there were artifacts in the video which are unavoidable given the limited frame rate of the video and processing done etc. You should spend some time reading and re-reading the responsiveness sections of both reviews for a much better idea of what to expect. The Samsung’s main issue is strong overshoot – it bothers quite a few users. It still has some ‘smeary’ trailing and heavy powdery trailing in places. The LG is better-tuned overall. But there are weaknesses on both which are unavoidable on VA models for some transitions and where models like the 24G2(U) have an advantage.

    #56520
    DacoPaco

    I am really sorry. I’m aware of my mistake of going off-topic. Thank you very much for helping me choose a monitor that suits my needs. Now it’s just IPS vs TN.

    #56522
    PCM2

    Don’t worry about it, I know it’s a monitor minefield out there! 🙂

    #56526
    truefalse

    I wanted to update the topic with the current list of announced monitors. There’s 9 in total – 5 with a smaller 23.8” Panda panel:

    Acer VG240YP (out now)
    AOC 24G2 (out now)
    ASUS VG249Q (coming soon)
    – Philips 242M8 (coming soon, might only be released in certain markets)
    – Viewsonic VX2480-HD-PRO (seems to be for the Asian market only)

    3 with a larger 24.5” AU Optronics panel:

    Acer XV253Q P (coming soon)
    – Acer VG252Q P (might be for the Asian market only)
    ASUS VG259Q (coming soon)

    and 1 with an unannounced panel:

    – ViewSonic XG2405 (coming early 2020)

    #56535
    PCM2

    Good list there and useful addition to the thread. 🙂 Based on the naming, rounding and known panels the ViewSonic XG2405 will likely be using the 23.8″ Panda panel.

    #56536
    Megatone

    So i compare my old monitor Syncmaster 2243SN (LCD) to my new 24G2U

    https://imgur.com/a/fKzqOr2

    the 24G2U have some washout color with vivid color if i decrease contrast and/or brightness
    If i increase contrast/brightness. I dont have washout color anymore but my eyes hurts because it is too bright

    and on the 2243SN, even if i decrease the setting, color remains the same but color arent vivid

    Maybe i cant bear LED screen ?

    #56539
    PCM2

    The brightness differences are obvious in the images (it’s obvious that’s there’s a massive brightness difference), but the nature of the differences is exaggerated in the images. This is just a note for people who may be viewing the images and thinking the Samsung looks stupidly dim and the AOC stupidly bright in some images (it’s exaggerated due to camera compensation). Also, do you often use the monitors in such a dimly lit environment or is that just for the comparison images? It may be that your lighting environment appears somewhat dimmer in the images due again to the camera compensating as it does, of course, and it clearly has this effect in some of the images.

    If you reduce contrast then you will be making the image unappealing due to reducing the ‘pop’ and luminance of the brighter shades whilst keeping the black point the same. You reduce static contrast and colour intensity. If you reduce brightness alone it won’t have this effect. I don’t think it’s that you “can’t bear LED screens”, that’s far too general. I simply think it’s that you find the minimum luminance without loss of contrast on the AOC 24G2U too high (89 cd/m²). Compensating for this with appropriate room lighting and also making sure you have the Samsung off so you can properly adapt to the new screen should help. Also try reducing ‘Game Color’ a little, just to take some edge off the saturation.

    If you still find it too bright after all of this then it’s likely you need to explore options with lower minimum luminance. Some of the other models listed in this thread may have that, but it would require testing to find out as it isn’t something manufacturers specify. I certainly can’t promise reviews of any of the other models in the near future. Maybe one or two, depending on sample availability, but it won’t be until next year given my packed reviewing schedule.

    #56540
    Megatone

    For the environment, yeah it is dim because i feel it comfortable.

    Except for the first and the last image, all other pictures are exaggerated by my smartphone
    Actually, i am trying to adjust the brightness with CareUEyes without sacrificing constrast, following what you say about it

    It has been 6 days since i have it
    the first 4 days, i had one eye hurting with some headache.

    Those last 2 days, i dont have pain anymore but still brightness make me feel uncomfortable

    Anyway, thanks for the fast reply

    #56542
    PCM2

    The only way you can reduce brightness without affecting contrast is with the brightness control of the monitor. Software only provides digital brightness (and related) adjustments, which do not affect the backlight and therefore do not alter (lower) black point. So they lower contrast in the same way that reducing ‘contrast’ on the monitor does. The native contrast of the monitor is strong for the panel type, though, so if you’re finding software adjustments help then please do use them! 🙂

    #56562
    Megatone

    So i add another light
    It helps reduce the white brightness
    but it is still too bright

    And now i remember why i made my room dim
    because of the glare/reflection during dark scene in movie

    So now i am going to order AOC G2590PX (brightness at zero) or ASUS VG258Q (Searching info about how low is their brightness)

    #56566
    PCM2

    The G2590PX is worth trying, it’s not a model I’ll personally recommend as covered on plenty of threads here. But monitors are very subjective and a reasonable minimum luminance is clearly a key factor for you. It goes down to 44 cd/m² without loss of contrast, so that’s good.

    #56578
    Megatone

    So a reddit user suggest i decrease RGB

    Indeed, brightness decrease and colors dont get washout

    It is now still a little bit bright than before

    #56580
    PCM2

    Decreasing RGB has exactly the same effect as decreasing contrast. But you get more flexibility as you can decrease the channels individually and usually you can go further than you can than with the contrast control.

    #56581
    Megatone

    I had enough of the AOC 24G2U. Everything is good except the brightness
    So i am returning it.

    I am looking at the Acer Nitro VG240YP, searching for info about the luminance at zero brightness

    For the VG258Q, some user report ,for the 27 version, too bright on white background so i take off of my list
    And for the AOC G2590PX, the Interlace pattern artifacts is a no no too

    #56583
    ppn7

    Maybe you can wait for the VG259Q which is already avaible in some country. I’m not sure if the brightness is lower on the Vg240yp but it seems less good in term of all other aspect like overdrive / blur perception.

    But the VG259Q cost 100€ more than 24G2

    #56589
    PCM2

    Just to add that Megatone tried to post something here that not accepted (colourful language and an unrepresentative image). The post did have a useful message, however. And just reinforces, again, that monitors are very subjective. The long and short of it, for those following this thread. He has decided that IPS-type panels aren’t for him. He doesn’t like IPS glow (understandable) and it appears from an image he tried to post that his AOC had pretty bad dark uniformity, which is unfortunate. The uniformity is something which varies between individual units and not unique to IPS-type panels.

    This thread was turning into a bit of a ‘technical help’ thread and that’s strictly against the forum rules. I’ve been very generous to let this run on for as long as it has and have been very patient and polite. The feedback I’ve received on this monitor has, on balance, been very positive. The only exceptions are users expecting it to be better in every single way than their old monitor (often a very old monitor, with much smaller screen, CCFL backlight, different panel etc.) Let this be a warning – no monitor is perfect and you need to pick your compromises. If ‘IPS glow’ really bothers you – and I mean during normal usage, not staring at black screens in a dark room – then avoid that panel type. It didn’t help that Megatone was very sensitive to brightness, which his issues in this thread really focused on. So he needed to observe content in a dimly lit room, which is not a a good place to be with an IPS-type panel and not ideal for any modern LCD monitor really.

    P.S. Megatone, the above was more for the information of others reading this thread. You’re welcome to contribute to the forum in the future if you wish, but do be aware that I’ve been very generous with my time here and the purpose of this forum is not that of a free technical support service.

    #56590
    ppn7

    Yes it is really subjective about monitor.

    In my case I’m still waiting for my 24G2 to come.
    Currently I still have a TN panel. The Samsung S24d340. Literally no BLB, almost no clouding. Contrast might be around 1000/1200:1.

    I might be disappointed with the 24G2 somewhere with glow but I think I can live with it !

    #56610
    TomD

    Just wondering if anyone elses monitor is showing as ‘generic pnp monitor’ in device manager. The AOC website doesn’t offer drivers for this monitor and windows update can’t find anything. Any ideas? Does it matter?

    #56612
    PCM2

    Yup, that’s normal. Monitors (including the 24G2U) are entirely plug and play. They’ve got everything they need integrated into the firmware and don’t need drivers to function correctly or enhance their performance. You should see it reported correctly in the graphics driver (G-SYNC section). Actually you’ll probably see it referred to as “24G2W1G4” which is an extended model code used by AOC.

    #56920
    PCM2

    This would probably be an appropriate place to copy some comments I made in reply to users on the YouTube video review of the AOC 24G2(U), with respect to the ASUS VG259Q and the 24.5″ AUO panel.

    “I’ve (briefly) used an Acer model using the same AUO 24.5″ panel. Compared to the AOC contrast is lower, pixel responsiveness is a bit worse (slower panel natively, requires stronger overdrive to speed things up = more obvious overshoot). The screen surface is a bit more grainy. In my view, you’re paying more for a worse screen by going with one of the 24.5″ models.”

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