[PCM2]

DaLog,

As covered in this thread the 24G2(U) has superior pixel responsiveness to the ViewSonic XG2405. But both are vastly superior to your ViewSonic VX2458-C which uses a (not fantastically well-tuned) VA panel. It’s incorrect to say even the AOC has “no ghosting”, but it doesn’t have a lot and certainly nowhere near as much as your current ViewSonic. This is explored in detail in the review where it’s compared to the AOC C24G1. Which, for reference, is also a bit better than your VX2458-C.

[DaLog]

Hello, thank you for the info. I was wondering if there is a monitor that has little to no ghosting. I’m not looking for color accuracy i’m just looking for a fast 144hz monitor.

[PCM2]

It would be worthwhile spending a bit of time reading the thread you’re posting in, because this is already addressed on the first page. A good choice for pure speed would be the ViewSonic XG240R. It’s covered extensively on these forums – not just on this thread. It’s also featured as a reference for responsiveness in the AOC review (second time I’ve linked to this section). Last but not least, it’s featured in the recommendations section.

[Crispy]

Thank you for your incredibly helpful, instructive work! I’m no monitor expert.

Based on budget, availability and research, I’ve come down to these two. The AOC is fairly cheaper here. Using a GTX 1050 Ti, so G-Sync compatible mode for now. Goals:

1. Fatigue-free, prolonged productivity + web (i.e. mostly text reading)
2. Retro gaming via emulation. That means 2D sprites/fast scrolling and adaptive sync seems to be important (never used adaptive sync)

About 1. the Viewsonic seems to be the best option, due to less vibrant/more natural colours?
About 2. would the AOC‘s slightly superior pixel responsiveness make a difference on old Amiga and Arcade games? In general, would these monitors be ok for this task?

The LG 27MP59G-P (1080p) was also an option, but I’m told such low PPI is a problem for 1. above. Thanks for any input!

[PCM2]

Hi Crispy and welcome,

Saturation levels shouldn’t be a key viewing comfort concern, provided brightness is set appropriately. In fact the wider gamut backlight of the 24G2(U) provides more balanced spectral output which some users may find more comfortable. A concept explored in our article on viewing comfort. Viewing comfort aside – and that’s a complex topic – definite preferences still exist for a more vibrant and saturated output (AOC) vs. a more rich and natural output that’s truer to the developer’s intentions (ViewSonic). With retro gaming in mind I certainly agree that it’s best to keep the pixel density up a bit to try to mask aliasing and other natural imperfections with the game graphics.

The XG2405‘s pixel responses should be more than adequate for retro gaming, which would runs at a significantly lower framerate than 144fps. The slight weaknesses relative to the AOC are not going to be problematic at such low frame rates, where pixel response requirements are much lower anyway.

[Crispy]

Thank you for the prompt reply! Forgot to ask one final thing which seemed interesting. In the AOC manual, the “Optimal preset resolution” is 1920×1080@60Hz. On the other hand, Viewsonic lists the 1920×1080@144Hz mode as “recommended”. Is there something to this, or just a technicality?

[PCM2]

Just a technicality.

[wizzie]

Hello, I’m about to buy one of these monitors. I’m after the least amount of motion blur and natural colors. After reading this thread I see that the AOC seems to be a bit faster, but I really hate the red gamery look and the oversaturated colors. When saying that it’s a bit faster, do you mean that it has a bit lower response time or that it has less motion blur? I’m currently on a 23MP68VQ IPS 75Hz IPS 5ms and the response time is not bothering me at all, the amount of motion blur does though, especially when spraying in FPS games and I can’t see what I’m shooting at.

[PCM2]

Both, but “response time” in the world of monitors refers to pixel response times. So if that’s reduced, it lowers perceived blur. Input lag, latency and signal delay is the other side of the equation and according to user feedback it’s a bit better on the AOC. But the ViewSonic is not a slow monitor by any means. If you are happier with its styling and the colour gamut then I’d so go for that instead – it will be a significant upgrade from your 23MP68VQ in terms of responsiveness whilst providing similar overall image characteristics.

[wizzie]

Okay, what about the 24.5″ AUO panel then? Are those monitors significantly faster than the ones with the Panda? I’m looking for the least amount of motion blur in a 1080p 144Hz IPS so I’m fine with paying bit more than what the AOC costs.

[PCM2]

Refer to our review of the Acer XB253Q GP where this comparison is drawn. Or indeed this post (which, incidentally, is linked to in the recommendations section which I’d highly recommend any user of this forum or website visits and pays attention to).

[wizzie]

It’s fast but I don’t think 280 euros is worth it for a 1080p display. Viewsonic has a 27″ 1440p IPS 144Hz at around that price (mod edit: true, but it’s slower and much less solidly built) . Thanks for the info though, I will try to buy both a 24G2U and a XG2405 and return the one I don’t like!

[PCM2]

Yes, it’s easier to recommend based on US pricing – which is the same as that but in USD. So it creates less of a pricing gulf between itself and the AOC and ViewSonic models. I hope you enjoy at least one of them, I’m sure you will.

[ACh]

Hi!

I’ve been the owner of a Dell U2417H. This monitor had and input lag of 5.15ms (under 1/3 of a frame @60Hz) according to its review here.

AOC has an input lag of 3.79ms (a bit over 1/2 a frame @144Hz).
And, according to lalaland_444’s findings, the Viewsonic XG2405 has an input lag of 7.7ms @143Hz.

Coming from a 60Hz panel with 5.15 ms @60Hz, will I notice any worsening when playing with the XG2405? I’m a relaxed casual non competitive gamer (Rocket League, X-COM 2, The Division 2, indie games…). I never play FPS games.

I just want a monitor that has a good colour reproduction and calibration because I’m colour blind (deuteranomaly-deuteranopia) and I noticed my U2417H helped me distinguish colours easier.

I liked the message by PsychicCashew recommending the XG2405 to anyone who plans on doing any form of colour based work.

Any reply would be appreciated.
Thank you very much.

To PCM2: I’m going to use for sure the affiliate link to buy the monitor, thanks for this forum and for your work!

[PCM2]

You can’t cross-compare input lag values from different methodologies – it isn’t an exact science. Some methods (such as ours) are far less swayed by the pixel response time element of input lag and mainly focus on the signal delay element (main aspect you ‘feel’). The XG2405 would probably have an input lag closer to 5ms if measured in a similar way to our method. But even if it were ~7ms, the difference in ‘connected feel’ offered by the improved refresh rate would really override any sensation from that extra 2ms of input lag between your current model and the XG2405.

I appreciate you wanting to support the website, too, and acknowledging other contributors on this thread as well. 🙂

[PCM2]

Just to note a couple of things:

1) A user emailed me a link to some pursuit photos from the website ‘TechPorn’ for the AOC and ViewSonic which shows the similar performance of the two or possibly even a minor edge to the ViewSonic in that test. There are other transitions to consider, especially with very bright or very dark shades where things could diverge more. But I don’t think you should expect any major differences in pixel responsiveness between the two products really and that isn’t something I’d put too much weight on when deciding between the two.

2) This is complicated by the fact the AOC now uses a BOE-based rather than Panda-based panel. And it appears other models using that Panda panel are also switching or have switched and this might include the ViewSonic. Especially as this points to the Panda panel possibly being discontinued. The BOE panel seems to be very responsive, but contrast isn’t as high is it was on the Panda panel. Regardless of panel used, the main difference most will appreciate and notice between the 24G2(U) and XG2405 will be in its colour output and in particular the gamut – it’s very different and completely changes how shades are represented.

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Does the AOC respect 4:3 resolutions aspect ratio?

For example if you set a resolution of 1024×768, does it keep black borders at the left and the right (and preferably not up and down)?

[PCM2]

It has an ‘Image Ratio’ setting in the ‘Extra’ section of the OSD that can be set to, amongst other things, 4:3 or 1:1. That would achieve what you’re looking for. As usual this setting is only available if Adaptive-Sync is deactivated. Otherwise the default ‘Wide’ scaling behaviour is used, which I believe will use all pixels and stretch the image.

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Does this mean that the monitor can automatically set the aspect ratio for any resolution it changes to, without having to manually select the appropriate aspect ratio on the menu?

[PCM2]

That’s what 1:1 pixel mapping achieves. It only uses the pixels called for by the source resolution (say 1024 x 768) and displays that without any stretching and distortion. With black bars for remaining pixels.

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