July 16, 2014 at 3:28 pm #31497
It’s an interesting idea. I wonder though – is it still applicable for someone like me – I get zapped by my Blackberry and trying to use my MacBook laptop stting in bed – away from a desk. I can be out and about using my cell phone and when I turn the screen my way, can feel a blast on my face. Doesn’t happen anywhere else – like neck, chest, hands. Just areas on face where I have rosacea.
I had the problem at work, in an office – though also had a double whammy with fluorescent lights above me while on the computer.
Some rosacea folks have told me things went away when their rosacea improved. Also, they were helped by LED over LCD and CRT monitors. I just hooked up an LED monitor and it was a disaster – flushing city and burning.
If it’s EMF sensitivity, wouldn’t it have been a problem before my rosacea. And/or wouldn’t it give me other symptoms like headaches, etc?
How would I guard against EMF with my cell phone? Is it dust on the screen or particles in the air?
I read an article about “screen dermatitis” yesterday. Th drs treated the patient with beta carotene. I’m on that now and have seen no difference so far.
It’s so debilitating. I can’t work and have had to take time off. Thanks to all for your feedback.July 17, 2014 at 9:06 pm #31510
First of all, the irony of having to sit down in front of a computer to research why sitting down in front of a computer makes your face hurt is hilarious, isn’t it?
Hi again everyone, I submitted a post a while ago and have not had a chance to provide an update until now…
To sum up my symptoms again, I get redness and burning around my chin and mouth and for a year or more it is clearly triggered by sitting in front of my computer at work or my iMac at home. When it gets bad I start to feel heat and tingling in and around my ears, and my throat starts to hurt, too. It starts up almost immediately and calms down within a few minutes of moving somewhere else. It is also triggered when I am on my iPad for a while, but isn’t triggered by my iPhone. I have also felt it after about an hour on an Amtrak train, which sounds strange but…
I think recent posts are right that, at least for me, it’s connected to EMFs. The train thing really solidified this theory. The World Health Organization has some good information on EMF sensitivity, and it specifically includes a discussion of the EMF produced on long-distance trains (as well as video displays, obviously): http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/index3.html
So I purchased a Trifield Meter which has a gaussmeter (to measure magnetic fields), an electric field meter, and radio field strength meter in a single unit. http://www.trifield.com/content/trifield-meter/
It has been fascinating to measure where the hot-spots are at home and work for magnetic fields. For example, electric fans produce very high magnetic field levels, as do the old tube TVs (not flat screen) and modems/routers and new energy-saving lightbulbs. I found that, at home, I had tons of EMF around my iMac, but not actually coming from the screen of the iMac itself. I moved almost everything, including moving my modem/router, and it made a big difference. I can now sit in front of my iMac for much longer without the burning on my face feeling really bad. I also measured the levels at work. The large 23″ Dell monitor I have produced very high EMFs, but the small Dell laptop produces much lower levels, so I just use my laptop now.
There is a lot of information on the web about electro-magnetic sensitivity (or electro-magnetic hypersensitivity, or screen dermatitis as someone mentioned in an earlier post). It’s even on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity
It seems like some European countries are way ahead of the US in terms of public awareness and organizations for people who have this problem. For example, in Sweden electrohypersensitivity (EHS) is apparently officially recognized as an impairment.
So, I think for all of us, not having clear solutions, and being in a country where most people don’t know what we’re talking about and think we’re imagining things, is obviously very frustrating.
Anyway, nothing else has really worked for me (including creams, pills or supplements, etc). But I recommend buying one of these meters (about $100) and identifying the sources of high EMFs in your home and workplace and trying to eliminate them or at least move them far away from where you are positioned.
Philadelphia, PAJuly 17, 2014 at 9:30 pm #31511
wow jud. congratulations. i’m with you on every point although i’m not 100% sure i have an emf issue.
you are very correct (imo) about europe. they are always ahead of us in safety. shame. i suspect many people that think they are having eye issues are really having EMF issues. headaches, feeling sick, fast heartbeats, fatigue… look into emf. but for you it was easier. you were getting an EMF sunburn. : ) which is also a known thing inside that community.
good thinking on the train. i’m sure they run wifi and everyone has a phone running. who knows what else. airports and stores (alarm systems) can also be bad for sensitive people.
if you haven’t tried it yet… try wiring your home. turn off the wireless on the laptop and plug in. get rid of cordless phones. dimmer switches are terrible. measure those! look up the inverse square law.
that meter you have probably won’t get everything. and some signals are intermittent. there is a theory that the random, jarring (digital pulse modulated) signals are more disruptive to biology.
i’m not sure your screen is as emf free as you think. perhaps the meter can’t measure those freq? every screen i’ve tested has significant emf. but i could be wrong. : )
anyway, nice sleuthing and reporting back. i’m searching for a low emf screen right now.July 17, 2014 at 9:49 pm #31514
(Techie stuff is like math for me 🙂
I’m not sure my issue is EMF related either. But maybe. This issue has caused all my doctors/derms to stare at me blankly. So I’m on my own. As are the other rosacea folks who are dealing with this. My only solace is that some have said they got past the problem once their rosacea improved.
I have an old TV in my home where I’m typing now on my LCD phone. There is an electric fan nearby. And a desktop and laptop housed in a nearby room with a wifi set up. Hmm.
My only health issue/symptom is my face – redness/burning when in front of computer screens/phone screens and under bright fluorescent lights (which all offices/my drs’ offices have!). No headaches, nausea, joint aches, etc. But as someone said, maybe it’s just my rosacea skin that’s sensitive to the EMF.
I’m interested now in getting this meter. Thanks again for this input!July 17, 2014 at 9:54 pm #31515
Jud, Is the meter straightforward to use? How dp you know what is low and what’s high in terms of measurements? Does the meter indicate?August 5, 2014 at 1:53 pm #32135
You all seem to have electromagnetic hyper sensitivities and some not even know it, most doctors won’t help you cause most don’t know what it is. Check out NAET allergy treatments or the Gupta Retraining Program as these are recognized forms of treatment for electromagnetic sensitivities. Reiki practitioners may work as well but I haven’t tried Reiki myself. I have the Gupta program and go to a allergy clinic that focuses on naet treatments and it has worked for me.
If you are chemically sensitive you are at a higher risk of becoming electro sensitive. It can be caused by simple stress but whatever the reason there is treatment for it. Whether it’s an overactive subconscious or energy blockages that no longer protect from emf’s it usually can get better. good luckDecember 8, 2014 at 10:01 pm #33563
I have a burning sensation when I use my computer , and it seems that it comes from the screen . I have and LG screen of 19 inches I asked my friend who also have an LG screen and he says that he’s been experiencing the same thing , I’m scared . Also I feel vey thirsty after one hour of sitting at the computerDecember 8, 2014 at 10:06 pm #33567
I’m really sorry to hear of yet another person with this sort of issue. I’ve added your post to this thread which contains some advice and discussion. You can at least be reassured that you and your friend are not alone in feeling this burning sensation when using monitors.
The thinking here is that it is a form of electromagnetic hypersensitivity. There are some interesting suggestions on this thread to try to tackle the issue. It would be great to hear back from some of the guys and gals here about whether they’ve had any longer term success with some of the measures they’ve taken.December 9, 2014 at 12:01 am #33574
@ PCM2 How can i get in touch with users of this forum , does this forum have like a message system?. ThanksDecember 9, 2014 at 10:14 am #33580
Everybody who has posted here is subscribed to this thread by default, which means that they are notified when something is posted and can reply if they have time or are requested to. If you have a question then feel free to post it here, alternatively some of the others who have contributed to this thread might offer some updates of their own shortly.
If you wanted to say something privately to one of them then I could get in touch with them by email and request that you can contact them directly.June 7, 2015 at 3:45 am #35640
Reading all these posts i have few tips to help you all out.
1. Wireless routers or modem/routers might not be possible for everyone to be able to turned off completely due to cabling problems, so the best next thing to be do is to reduce the signal strength that it can generate. They generate more signals over longer area than our laptops or mobiles can recieve to begin with due to weak recievers so reduce the signal strengths where you can still connect to longest area as before wirelessly and stably cause the range will remain same as before mostly limited to your mobile phone and/or laptops recievers and senders strength. you have to read manuals for that. I have turned the signal strength of my modem/router to 25% and range and strength of signals to all my devices is still the same Turn wifi off for most things as you all have stated best case possible, but can’t be done everyone case, atleast turn it off when not need or going to sleep. Also i can’t remember where i read it wireless also effects melatonin production too so it is better to do above steps.
2. Melatonin is improtant to us and that can’t be generated when we are sleeping under light, so try to sleep without any lights possible if you need light to see things during sleeping hours at night turn on the lights which are in-direct to you and if possible in next rooms where it will partially lit the room where needed , direct night lights are no go as direct lights still enters the eyes and body skin, diffused light from longer distance only mitigates theses effects. Monitors come into play here as they give us jolts of lights right to our skin and no matter what you people do it will affect melatonin, the best defence is wrapping thick cotton cloth around face (i am from pakistan and too much sun and people use this method to avoid too much light to enter skin to stop problems of intense light sun stroke, sun burn, even heat wave burn)as stated previous post if you are lacking melatonin which i believe he is. If we are not producing right amount of melatonin it effects us more and might be the reason behing people’s allergies as our body is not sleeping properly and becoming weak over diverse range of factors that can’t be checked and monitor humanly atleast for now. Those with much reduced melatonin should try to sleep without light even in day time try to minimie it for a month to see improvments.
3. Try to walk around naked feet in-side house if no carpet if carpets are there then try garden or somewhere to walk naked feet so that your body try to balance the charges out with earth for emf sensitive people. And emf sensitive people hear the electrical noises more easily than others too, and that might affect hearing too.
4. Turn all appliances off from button and sockets switches, because when things sleep or standby like tv being turned off from remote still generate such affect but little but still there.June 8, 2015 at 2:41 pm #35645
I have been going to a neat allergy center for quite some time now, a new practioner there has determined that I was very sensitive to florescent lighting and was most likely the cause of the facial burns. She treated me for this and i have had a complete turn around in symptoms….when it comes back i go in for another treatment and voila, better again. She checked wifi, electro magnetic fields and a bunch of other things but it was the florescent light in screen for me. I also had Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and food allergies and after 2 years of weekly naet treatments that has all cleared up as well.June 8, 2015 at 10:09 pm #35647
That’s very interesting TJ and it’s great to hear you’ve got to the route of your problem and have received suitable treatment. If you are sensitive to fluorescent lights, then presumably newer monitors (which are LED-backlit) shouldn’t cause symptoms?July 30, 2015 at 6:09 pm #35873
I’m experienced these symptons too, I want to know if this has to do with the weather. I live in a city that has a very dry weather , what about you guys? do your cities have dry or humid weather ? Hope you can reply a.s.a.p. . ThanksAugust 3, 2015 at 3:45 pm #35900
As I mentioned in an earlier post it seems to have been the florescent lights in the screen for me, we have 2 older model laptops with florescent backlights but I have recently purchased a new led tablet and it does not bother me at all. A few weeks ago, sitting at my kitchen island using my tablet and within 10 mins my face was burning which was a little discouraging until I looked up at my pendants and realized both pendant light bulbs looked identical but one was led and the other was florescent, we changed it out for an led bulb which resolved that problem and reassured me that it was not the tablet. We will be changing our TV’S for led screens as well.
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