March 25, 2014 at 1:57 am #29118
I am relieved to find that others are having this problem. This started for me when I got a new iMac about 10-12 months ago, 21 inch with backlit-LED screen, although I didn’t make the connection back then. It’s gotten progressively worse and became very clear that it’s correlated to my computer use. It’s now so bad that it comes on almost immediately when I sit down in front of my computer, even after taking several days off (with symptoms completely gone when I’m away from the computer). For me it’s around my chin and mouth and not really anywhere else, is that true for others as well? I will try the E45 cream and the water with glycerin, and also cleaning the computer with a damp cloth that came with it, as others have suggested.
I also sometimes feel it when I’m driving, is that true for others? I did some research and apparently cars produce a lot of static electricity, so that made me think that that may indeed be the culprit.
JudMarch 25, 2014 at 2:44 am #29119
Hello Jud – I don’t recall having a problem with this while being in cars.
When it was at its peak, I was feeling a burning sensation on my entire face, neck, lips and ears. I am feeling minimal effects now and I have taken a few different actions to try to remedy the situation:
1. I have removed the computer box and printer from the top of my desk and put it on the floor, so I no longer have almost direct exposure to anything but my monitor, which is a 21-inch LCD.
2. I read that electronic devices put out positively charged ions, so I started using an air ionizer to neutralize this effect. I think this has had the greatest effect.
3. I started taking 100mg of niacin once a day to deliberately get the characteristic skin flush. It is believed by some that niacin releases stored radiation in the skin as evidenced by old sunburn patterns showing up, making the flush look like a whole new sunburn. The flush only lasts for about an hour. This effect gradually reduces and goes away with time, apparently meaning the radiation is gone. I did this for about a week and then forgot all about it. Consistency is not one of my strengths.
4. I stopped taking bentonite clay because of the positive ion factor. Bentonite clay is used as part of a bowel cleanse and its purpose is to attract positively charged toxins to its negative charge so it can be expelled. After reading that electronic devices put out positive ions, I figured that maybe the clay’s negative charge was dispersed in my body and attracting the positive ions from outside my body as well to the parts that were not covered by clothing, although I don’t seem to have a problem on my fingers and arms. Maybe my skin there is just tougher, I don’t know.
As I sit here typing, I am feeling a slight burning sensation. I know that if I get up and turn on my ionizer that it will stop this, but I need to clean the filters first.
KarlaMarch 27, 2014 at 12:36 am #29136
Not sure how to write this but here goes nothing.
I have always been behind a computer screen, have always suffered dermatitis along the face, and under the arms.
It has never really been an issue till I got in to my later life around my late teens and now to my early-mid twenties. I have a computer screen now that flares up my dermatitis, if I sit at the monitor for most of the day playing games that is when it has a bigger impact on my face than any other time.
Working isn’t an issue as much but can still cause mild flare ups time to time – though how can you really pin-point this one out, I mean games make my face itchy after a while, it isn’t turn the game on and it is instant, it does take time and it only takes one day, flares up the dermatitis and then I have to wait several days for it to go away – it isn’t just that it makes me a lot more pale as well so not sure if this has something to do with the eyes as well, but of course if you’ve no blood motion around the body what do you expect 🙂
I cannot explain this either and have always looked for answers but never really found anything.
I do take creams to help prevent it or help to stop the itching but it isn’t a cure so…
If I get up and away from my PC Monitor and go outside it slowly disappears, the itchyness etc so clearly it is my monitor that is causing me issues but with no cure insight to any of this what else could I possibly do.March 27, 2014 at 8:49 am #29138
It’s definitely worth having a go with some of the remedies karla4569 suggested above. It seems that the culprit is static charge from the monitor which you must be particularly sensitive to. The air ionizer (air purifier) is definitely worth trying by the sound of it, it would make sense for this to have a positive effect and it seems that Karla is finding that to be the case.March 27, 2014 at 11:05 am #29139
How nice to get several responses so quickly!
Over the past 2 days, since reading the posts here and doing research, I have tried using Aquafor ointment on my chin and around my mouth because it has glycerin in it, which someone mentioned, and it is helping quite a bit. I also turned off and unplugged my computer (and all attached gadgets) and cleaned them with the special cloth that came with my iMac (slightly damp) because I read that the static electricity causes dust particles in the air to become charged so the less dust the better, and this may have helped, too. So I would recommend those things to anyone who has not yet tried them. The ionizer sounds good and I will definitely be doing that.
It’s amazing to me that this is not yet a widely recognized skin condition!
JudMarch 30, 2014 at 4:04 pm #29159
Hi Karla 4569, my face burns terribly as well when I am on my laptop. If I stay on too long I actually get red blotched on my face and I get very sickly looking, it also affects my tongue and throat. It takes days of avoiding the computer, cell phone and tv for it to go away. The only thing that helps is avoidance. I have been racking my brain trying to figure this out because it only started a few months ago and it never did this before so why now? Why me and not others…hmm
I’ve tried grounding myself with earthing sheets and gadgets. I have also been to a naet allergy practitioner, and was tested and treated for sensitivities to fluorescent lights, uv rays, radiation, emf’s, so I am not sensitive to these and I don’t ever recall being sensitive to these types of things before. At the clinic I also had all areas of my nervous system treated because I thought maybe it was just an overactive nervous system making my skin burn. But after all this my face still burns…
That is why I find it very interesting that you mentioned the benzonite clay because I too take diatomaceous earth which is a cleanse that has pretty much the same concept as the clay. It has a negative charge as well. Interestingly enough and something I had never thought about until I read your post is that I started taking the DE just before my face stated burning. I started around nov. 2013 and I noticed my face started burning a month later. So I am stopping the DE to see if this heps…may take a while but will let you know how it goes.March 30, 2014 at 4:09 pm #29160
Very interesting to hear that you suddenly experienced these sort of issues, TJ. It will be interesting to see whether the DE was indeed a contributing factor (or the main culprit).March 31, 2014 at 6:43 am #29161
Good luck, TJ. I’ve been tempted to start taking the clay again, just to see if it will turn on the burn again, but I really don’t want to go through that again if it is the culprit. Please let us know how it goes for you!
-KarlaMarch 31, 2014 at 7:17 am #29162
This positive vs. negative charge factor has peaked my interest in researching something – how the pH of our bodies affects our overall electrical charge. When I do saliva pH testing, I always have a very low pH. I just did a quick search and found an interesting article that basically says acidic body conditions cause negative charges on the outer surface of cells, launching them into a pre-carcinogenic state. Our diets have everything to do with whether we are pH balanced or lean more acid or alkaline. Ideal is balanced but tipping alkaline. So if the outer surface of my cells is negatively charged and I’m sitting in front of a positive ion producing monitor…? Ohhh, I hope I’m on to something here! Here’s the article if anyone is interested. http://lucinda_ball.blogspot.com/2010/08/we-are-designed-to-eat-foods-that-carry.htmlMarch 31, 2014 at 1:23 pm #29163
Hi Karla, I just happen to have ph strips and my ph levels are very good. I have a lot of food sensitivities therefor eat a very strict healthy diet, no processed foods. I am leaning more towards the theory that it could be an electrical sensitivity.
Although, your clay theory did peak my interest since my “skin burning from the laptop” started just after i began taking the DE cleanse I am real curious to see what happens after I stop taking it for a few weeks. Will it be just a coincidence or the solution to my problem? It has only been 2 days and my skin is burning as I post this, but I will definitely let you know how it goes.April 4, 2014 at 10:34 am #29216
Turn the brightness to 100 %.
Hi I had to register in order to share this.
I recently began to experience burning and stinging sensation in my face while working at my computer. My work require me to have three monitors.
I have learned that brightness is a big part of the problem. On a standard LCD monitor you should turn it to maximum. For me it turned out that this completely counter intuitive setting for the brightness is much gentler on my face. The backlight on a standard monitor can only be on or off and in order to achieve a gradual change in brightness the light is turned on and off really fast, a technic that is called PWM (pulse width modulation). But if you turn the brightness to maximum the light is on all the time.
My first thought was to look for a monitor made for people that are sensitive. Turns out that it is pretty hard to find. But there is a company in Sweden that makes completely shielded monitors, they are a bit expensive though. 4200$ for 24″ HD-monitor.
My problems are not bad enough to warrant that kind of money. At least not yet. But it might be worth it for one of you.
I have two cheap ideas that I haven’t tried myself but they might help.
If you can watch TV and work from home maybe you could use your TV as a monitor. I think that the distance from the TV could help ease the pain.
Maybe a projector could help. Reflected light should be much better. There are small pico projectors that are made to only cast an image of 20-30” and they are also portable if you work on the road.
These two should be easy to try at least.
I will try this monitor.
It will reduce the power output on my desk with 80W and I hope that it will be enough to remove my problems.April 4, 2014 at 3:39 pm #29218
Thanks for chiming in here Morgan.
At least in some of the cases here, including that of the original poster, PWM doesn’t seem to have been the culprit. Indeed there was mention from the original poster of symptoms being even worse when using a CRT. Of course there is a different type of ‘flickering’ associated with that, so perhaps that could have a similar or perhaps even worse effect on some people. It’s definitely worth trying out a flicker-free monitor or forcing the monitor not to use PWM (full brightness) to see if that helps. And the BenQ BL2710PT is a lovely monitor from a visual comfort as well as performance perspective.
Distancing yourself from the screen (using a larger screen or perhaps TV) is also a good thing to try as would be trying an alternative technology such as a projector. Of course this can be difficult on a practical level for some people but worth thinking about indeed. It’s really nice to see all of these ideas put out there on this thread. Keep us updated as to how you find the BenQ, Morgan!July 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm #31329
Hi, I too have this problem. I’m unable to use a computer – desktop, laptop – aand am struggling to type this post on my Blackberry. Fluorescent lights are also a problem.
The issue with computer, tablet and cell phone displays is one that comes up a lot on rosaceagroup.org – a forum for people with various types of the skin condition rosacea, which I have. If it weren’t for computer/cell/overhead lights issues, I would have a limited skin issue. It is my primary trigger.
I’m baffled by this issue. All of your theories and suggestions are very helpful. There is a theory that this is eye related – even when it comes to burning/red skin and the monitor. I’ve been treating myself for “dry eye” over the last few weeks – Restasis, eye drops/gel, fish oil. Early days – not sure if it’s the answer.
Some of the rosacea folks who’ve overcome this issue say that changing from LCD to LED-backlit monitors helped them a lot. I have a MacBook LED laptop though – and it torches me.
I’m interested in Morgan’s suggestion to turn up brightness to maximum. Many folks suggest the opposite. I followed their advice and turned brightness down to the lowest setting on all my devices. But I think I’ll see what happens if I move up to the max.
I’m also taking high-dose beta carotene, as some studies/medical sites suggest this can help with photosensitivity, which can include artificial light as well as sunlight. Sunlight doesn’t bother me.
Thank you for your suggestions. Will try them. Has anyone had any success yet? If this puzzle could be solved, it would improve a lot of lives!July 16, 2014 at 9:38 am #31492
ok, i did not read this entire thread. has anyone said you are electromagnetically sensitive? EMFs? they should. what you are describing is a classic symptom. i think the missing piece of the puzzle for people with “eye strain, head aches, etc” that are not due to flicker is EMFs. every screen i’ve tested just hums with pulsing EMFs.
you said you have issues with florescent light? Also EMF emitters and also other people how are EMF sensitive have issues with them. close your eyes and keep your head where it normally is in from the screen. i bet you have the same issues looking or not.
Big topic.July 16, 2014 at 3:08 pm #31494
Welcome and thanks for your input!
This was indeed one of the likely causes I identified early on in this thread and I think you’re spot on with your thoughts. Rather than being something people are reacting to with the visual system (like flicker), EMF sensitivity would cause the sort of skin irritation and other symptoms described in this thread.
I think it would be great if everyone could report back with how they are doing and anything they’ve managed to do to help remedy the situation. I am particularly interested in if the air ioniser proved useful, if anybody ended up trying that?
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