[Intikhab]

hi everyone,
Reading all these posts i have few tips to help you all out.

1. Wireless routers or modem/routers might not be possible for everyone to be able to turned off completely due to cabling problems, so the best next thing to be do is to reduce the signal strength that it can generate. They generate more signals over longer area than our laptops or mobiles can recieve to begin with due to weak recievers so reduce the signal strengths where you can still connect to longest area as before wirelessly and stably cause the range will remain same as before mostly limited to your mobile phone and/or laptops recievers and senders strength. you have to read manuals for that. I have turned the signal strength of my modem/router to 25% and range and strength of signals to all my devices is still the same Turn wifi off for most things as you all have stated best case possible, but can’t be done everyone case, atleast turn it off when not need or going to sleep. Also i can’t remember where i read it wireless also effects melatonin production too so it is better to do above steps.

2. Melatonin is improtant to us and that can’t be generated when we are sleeping under light, so try to sleep without any lights possible if you need light to see things during sleeping hours at night turn on the lights which are in-direct to you and if possible in next rooms where it will partially lit the room where needed , direct night lights are no go as direct lights still enters the eyes and body skin, diffused light from longer distance only mitigates theses effects. Monitors come into play here as they give us jolts of lights right to our skin and no matter what you people do it will affect melatonin, the best defence is wrapping thick cotton cloth around face (i am from pakistan and too much sun and people use this method to avoid too much light to enter skin to stop problems of intense light sun stroke, sun burn, even heat wave burn)as stated previous post if you are lacking melatonin which i believe he is. If we are not producing right amount of melatonin it effects us more and might be the reason behing people’s allergies as our body is not sleeping properly and becoming weak over diverse range of factors that can’t be checked and monitor humanly atleast for now. Those with much reduced melatonin should try to sleep without light even in day time try to minimie it for a month to see improvments.

3. Try to walk around naked feet in-side house if no carpet if carpets are there then try garden or somewhere to walk naked feet so that your body try to balance the charges out with earth for emf sensitive people. And emf sensitive people hear the electrical noises more easily than others too, and that might affect hearing too.

4. Turn all appliances off from button and sockets switches, because when things sleep or standby like tv being turned off from remote still generate such affect but little but still there.

[TJ]

I have been going to a neat allergy center for quite some time now, a new practioner there has determined that I was very sensitive to florescent lighting and was most likely the cause of the facial burns. She treated me for this and i have had a complete turn around in symptoms….when it comes back i go in for another treatment and voila, better again. She checked wifi, electro magnetic fields and a bunch of other things but it was the florescent light in screen for me. I also had Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and food allergies and after 2 years of weekly naet treatments that has all cleared up as well.

[PCM2]

That’s very interesting TJ and it’s great to hear you’ve got to the route of your problem and have received suitable treatment. If you are sensitive to fluorescent lights, then presumably newer monitors (which are LED-backlit) shouldn’t cause symptoms?

[mv2424]

I’m experienced these symptons too, I want to know if this has to do with the weather. I live in a city that has a very dry weather , what about you guys? do your cities have dry or humid weather ? Hope you can reply a.s.a.p. . Thanks

[TJ]

As I mentioned in an earlier post it seems to have been the florescent lights in the screen for me, we have 2 older model laptops with florescent backlights but I have recently purchased a new led tablet and it does not bother me at all. A few weeks ago, sitting at my kitchen island using my tablet and within 10 mins my face was burning which was a little discouraging until I looked up at my pendants and realized both pendant light bulbs looked identical but one was led and the other was florescent, we changed it out for an led bulb which resolved that problem and reassured me that it was not the tablet. We will be changing our TV’S for led screens as well.

[chrismcboo]

Posting so I can watch this topic. It has been 3 years now – fall/winter is much worse than summer. Chemical/fragrance sensitivities – linalool sucks . When I spend long periods of time infront of monitor (~3′ distance) my face develops a burn – quite read. Painful. Laptop usage at close distances can actually cause the skin to raise up/swell. Moisturizers, oils (coconut e.g.)….cause a burning sensation.
Staying 100% away from monitors is not possible due to my role in high tech development. ARG! I would rather be a canoe tripping guide ;>
Static – could correlate to the time periods I have issues. I am going to check this angle out with the help of an EMI expert friend. I will also look at LED versus LCD
Look forward to hearing your personal findings!!! Video tan is a reality…..a painful reality!!!

[PCM2]

Sorry to hear you’re having such a rough but necessary ride with your monitors. Doesn’t sound at all pleasant. 🙁

I’d certainly be interested to hear any improvements you or others are able to make at reducing static etc. Note that ‘LED’ monitors are just LCDs with a different backlight – whilst that could influence what you’re feeling, I seem to recall others found CCFLs and LED backlights equally obtrusive. At least manufacturers are now dipping their hands into OLED screens. They lack a backlight entirely so could potentially improve things, although they’re still a little way off becoming truly mainstream. Do you have any devices using OLED screens out of interest (perhaps a phone, or tablet)? And what about e-readers like a Kindle with e-ink displays?

[kris9999]

I believe it’s the radiation the computer screens give off.
you tube has a person using a radiation meter and shows up.
I just don’t understand why this has been such a discovery.
Shouldn’t this have been addressed before providing to public?

[PCM2]

Don’t be unnecessarily worried by the term ‘radiation’. Try to understand exactly what it means in this context. To be absolutely clear, on a modern monitor it is only EMF radiation in the form of visible light and IR that is emitted. Just as you would be exposed to in higher doses outside. In addition, you will be explosed to electrostatic charge as covered earlier in this thread. You wouldn’t find a geiger counter (measures radioactivity) going crazy near a monitor. There is therefore nothing to ‘address’ other than sensitivities towards electrostatic radiation and reduction of anything else a user might be sensitive to on a monitor. But that does not include any ‘dangerous radiation’ – they don’t spew out X-Rays and gamma radiation.

[TeFo89]

Hi,

I have a similar problem.
This is the first time I found something on the subject.
I have been having this problem for 15-20 years.
I’m very pleased to see I’m not alone.

I will write more in detail of my experience a bit later.
Thanks for trying to solve this strange allergy.
Together we should be able to understand the root problem
And solve it!

Cheers!

[MissMary2017]

Hey new user here! So glad to know I’m not crazy! I too have been getting this, face burning feeling while on the computer. I just started feeling this today. I indicated of wonder if it’s because of the humidity and the heat, today was the hottest this summer, July 2017 in Minnesota. But it could also be my desktop computer, there was a burnt toast smell last week, then the computer shut down by itself. But I’m very grateful this was documented. Now I don’t feel so alone in this situation.

[Cyanix]

Hello there.
I’ve had exactly the same skin issues since August 2000.

Rosaces like symptômes, burning, etythema, rashes, when standing un front of any screen.

I’ve consulter countless dermatologists d’or the last 17 years and no zone was able to help.
Some even said “what you’re describing does not exist, its in your head”…

Started with CRTs of course, but LCDs ans OLEDs screens did not alleviate the problem.

[PCM2]

That’s a typical response for a dermatologist who is simply confused by what they are hearing. Just because they don’t understand it certainly doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. As this thread demonstrates, this is a real thing!

Have you tried any of the possible solutions posted in the thread? Another thing I would recommend to you or anybody else on this thread is to consider buying a larger monitor and using it from further away, if that’s practical.

[Cyanix]

I have an underlying rosacea condition, which developped at the very same time as my screen sensitivity.
Well, doctors told me it was rosacea, so they could put a name on it i suppose. What’s funny is that sun rays, which are said to be the bane of rosacea affected people, never did any harm…

I only really feel the burning/rash when sitting in front of a switched on display. It happens quickly, after about 10 seconds so it cannot be mistaken for anyrhing else, and it gets unbearable fast. Typing this very answer is actually hurting a lot, even if this is juste a small tablet.

There must be some kind of UV/IR rays that progressively irritate the skin over the years.
I’ve been sitting in front of computer my whole life, since the early 80s, and the disease started to manifest itself when i got exposed to screens for like 14+ hours a day, nearly 20 years later.
That’s a lot of irradiation through the years.

It’s also clear that the brighter the image, the more pain is felt, worse being an all white background.

[PeteSampras]

Hi

New User here

Joined for this thread.

I have been having similar burning pain that causes red splotchy discolorations when looking at digital screens of all types. I have used blue light filters, new glasses, inverted colors with minimal positive effect.

Something that I did not see mentioned here is that it might be an allergy. There are histamine producing neurons in your skin.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9412815

I had no problems with screens before having a severe allergy attack(people cutting grass) where I felt a burning sensation in my nose. The pain and redness is more intense around my nose, by my cheeks and bridge of the nose and radiates outward after using screens for prolonged times.

My screen symptoms and other symptoms have diminished after taking benadryl and antihistamines. I can look at a screen for longer periods but the burning pain invariably still happens if I use the computer for any extended time.

I am going to try some topical anti-histamines to see if it would work.

I used hydrocortisone the other day where it burned the most and felt a good amount of relief.

I minimized the white point settings on my screens with a moderate positive benefit.

Interested in suggestions. Glad to know there are other people like me

Thanks

[PCM2]

That’s a very good point and a worthy addition to this thread. The symptoms described by users here (including severe itching and redness of the skin) do suggest a histamine response. It is difficult to pinpoint what would cause such a reaction from a monitor (although there are some suggestions earlier in the thread). Then again, it isn’t necessary to understand the exact trigger if you’re able to suppress the response with antihistamines.

I hope this continues to provide you some relief and that others might try this and see how they get on.

[Zero]

I thought I was all alone with this problem. I’ve had it since I started looking at monitors in 2005. My skin on my face looked like it was exposed to something radioactive. After about 2 years of sitting in front of a laptop in my spare time I started to get these weird spots – one on my nose and one on my face about 2 inches under the left or right eye, and it just destroyed the way I looked. I don’t get that anymore ill explain how later on. I also used to and still do get the swelling on the bridge of the nose and on each side of it. I used to be always thinking “wtf is happening to me”. So after a while I figured out it was the screens and it wasn’t just monitors it’s phone screens, tablets everything except the kindle. It’s the bright backlight. I’ve learned how to control it on the phone but not the monitors. On the phone I downloaded Screen Dimmer from the playstore it works great. But you have to keep on filtering the opacity for when you are inside or outside. For example when you are outside you will have to bring the opacity up to maybe 5% and when you are inside with the lights you would filter it to about 70%. That’s what suits me anyway. It don’t get too much of the swelling on the bridge of the nose etc like before but it still comes around sometimes and this is because Screen Dimmer or any of the screen filter apps don’t dim the backlight for the pull down screen. Also my skin is so sensitive to screens that even small back light icons on my phone still effect me like the icons at the top of the screen eg. Battery, data, notifications icons etc at the top of the screen stay bright. My phone won’t allow the Screen Dimmer app to adjust them or the bright directional keys at the bottom of the screen, so what I did is I got black insulating tape and cut 2 lenghts of it and wrapped one at the top and bottom of the screen so it blocks the little bright lights. It works well also. You can get screen dimmer for the desktop and it’s the exact same. It makes it easier to look at the screen but it doesn’t stop the swelling at the bridge of the nose etc. I couldn’t believe the stuff that people have written here of there problems and there methods because it’s exactly what I have. Somebody wrote how the wrapped something around there face and just left an opening for their eyes, I’ve done that aswell and like him/her it doesn’t work. I’ve tried everything with the monitor. I was looking into getting an anti glare screen protector for the monitor. You can get them for your phone aswell, Amazon has all sorts of them for sale, but I don’t know if they would work or not. But anyway I think the culprit is the bright screen. As soon as I’m exposed to a bright screen it goes pair shaped for me. I was thinking maybe if the monitor was placed way down from eye level would it be any better? I wonder is the a mask or somethibg you could wear that is designed to protect against it. We have to get this thing solved, bring it to the attention of people who can do something about it, because its soooo frustrating and seriously annoying. I hate when I look at myself and I see that swelling at the bridge of my nose and cheeks. Anyway try the screen filter on the phone it works well. Please let me know if anyone has found the culprit. Thanks.

[PCM2]

With your level of sensitivity, it might make sense (and this goes as general advice for this thread) to try and sit yourself as far away from the monitor as possible. You might also find certain types of monitor work better and indeed are more practical to use at extended viewing distances. Furthermore, if you find an application that dims the screen useful you might also consider a monitor with support for a low minimum (white) luminance. There is a lot of crossover with this thread in that respect.

What is your current monitor and which screens have you tried?

[Zero]

Thanks for the reply. I only really use the pc monitor for gaming. I don’t do too much gaming because of this problem so when I can’t really sit too far away from the monitor because I would not be able to read what’s on the screen. The monitor I’m using is an acer monitor designed for gaming. Great monitor but I wish I had of known about the new amoled and oled gaming TVs out there now and I would have tried one of them instead. I think it affects more when you are sitting directly in front of the screen at eye level. I noticed before when I was using my laptop that when I was sitting on the bed and my face would have been looking downwards towards the screen that I didn’t really get any affect at all, I also had the screen dimmer and brightness all the way down too. I think a good solution there would be to get a wireless monitor of some sort and and use it with a wireless keyboard, controller etc in some way. So if anyone is reading this if its a laptop you have, try sitting up over it and use a wireless keyboard/combo. Whatever is coming out of the screen might not hit you directly on the eyes. Can anyone tell me if the oled/amoled screens have stopped the problem?

[lilro]

I came here just to post and confirm that I also experience a “burning” sensation on my face when I’ve been in front of my laptop screen for a while. It goes away after a while of getting away from the screen. I’m using a MacBook Pro Retina.

The best way for me to describe the feeling: it feels like I’ve been out in the sun for a long time.

I’m even using something called a Defender Shield under my laptop to protect from EMFs, but it doesn’t do anything to reduce the face burning.

I’ve been afraid to speak up about it for a while because of fear of being told I’m crazy. But I’m kind of relieved to hear others are having a similar experience and thought I’d add to the list with my own experience.

I hope someone is researching and looking into this. I can’t imagine this is good news about device use in general.

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