Is the Samsung Odyssey G7 (C27G75T) the best 27″ VA option?

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  • #66451
    PCM2

      Hi Sorcy,

      I’ve merged your thread with this one; I like to keep feedback related to the Odyssey G7 in one place. You’re not alone in liking a lot about the Samsung Odyssey G7, except for the curve. I’m afraid there are no flat alternatives – when it comes to VA pixel responsiveness, it’s really ‘Odyssey G7‘ (or G9) vs. everything else. Sure some of the remaining VA models are faster than others, but none come close to the likes of the Odyssey G7. You should therefore consider the flat IPS alternatives, including those we recommend. The BenQ EX2710Q isn’t one I’d go for for reasons covered in the thread you linked to, but the BenQ EX2780Q is still worth considering if you want to stick with the brand. Or one of the alternatives covered in this thread if not or if you want faster pixel responsiveness. Given you have an RTX 3090, I certainly wouldn’t discount going for a 144Hz+ ‘4K’ model as an alternative. But it depends on how much you’re willing to spend on the monitor, really. Some relevant threads:

      https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/monitor-to-take-advantage-of-rtx-3090-gpu/
      https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/28-144hz-4k-models-including-xv282k-kv-and-vg28uql1a/
      https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/high-refresh-rate-32-4k-experience-fi32u-and-others/

      Remember that whilst the contrast on IPS models are weaker, some of the alternatives covered in the 144Hz+ WQHD IPS choices thread offer slightly stronger contrast than your GW2765HT. And you can mitigate some of the weaknesses and enhance perceived contrast (this goes for VA panels, too) by improving your lighting environment. Try putting lighting behind the monitor (bias lighting) if you can. Also note that Low Blue Light (LBL) technology is certainly not proprietary to BenQ. They pioneered such technologies and pushed the industry in general to be more ‘eye care friendly’. They also offer well-balanced LBL settings, but other manufacturers offer similar things now. All they do is adjust colour channels by various pre-defined degrees.

      #66452
      Sorcy

        Thanks, let’s merge then no pb 🙂

        G7 is definitely a nice monitor and I’m really having thoughts on returning it or not … but this curve :p

        I’m ok with spending a bit more as I’ll bill it on my company…

        Yet, I was surprise reading this post, that you described Aorus FI27Q (or 32U?) as almost top tier and yet today’s top are M27/M32Q. Any reason I missed for this ?

        I guess LBL can also be found elsewhere indeed, will definitely give it a try as I don’t want ArMD too soon …

        Thanks !

        #66455
        PCM2

          The recommendations are based on price and performance. Things are also skewed towards price and availability in the US primarily, where our largest user base is located. Also be aware that the AORUS models which have a direct ‘M’ counterpart are more expensive yet based on the same panels and offer similar performance to the basic ‘M’ models. This is pointed out in threads where they’re covered here on the forum (this post covers the FI32Q and M32Q). The M32Q offers very similar performance to the FI32Q at a significantly lower price – the ‘premium aesthetics’, a few extra features (and the loss of some other features) plus branding is what you’d be paying extra for. The same would apply when comparing the M32U and FI32U. Paying more doesn’t always get you better performance in the monitor world. The FI27Q-X is very different to the M27Q, however, and both received our recommended badge. There is no directly comparable ‘M’ version of the FI27Q-X.

          With all this said, certainly do consider the FI27Q-X if you’re looking for a strong all-rounder and happy to pay the premium. I use this as my current main display and reference display due to its strong performance in many key areas. It’s covered pretty extensively on the forums, too. This thread has some useful information and includes some comparisons with the curved Odyssey G7s as well. Another thing (and this is important). You’ve only used the C32G75T (Odyssey G7) for a few days. You may well get more used to the curve and it may start feeling more natural to you, even on the desktop. I’m currently reviewing a model of the same size and curvature and over the course of a few weeks I got more and more used to the curve. I do still notice it, particularly on the desktop, but it is less noticeable than after I just used it for a few days. So maybe give it a little longer?

          #66464
          Sorcy

            After some days with the G7, I must agree on the fact that your brain gets used to the curve screen.
            Strangest thing is that on my dual setup, the right monitor (a flat IIyama) sometimes feels convex like … curved out.

            This not-interesting fact apart, I must say that the depth of pure black color on the G7 is really impressive compared ty my Benq IPS …
            That’s the point where you realize you’ve been watching a dark grey for a while, thinking it was black.

            One thing that bothers me though, if the fact that when you lock your OS, and the screen goes in sleeping mode, the waking part takes time, and each time the screen is detected by windows – again – it triggers a “new installed device” sound and displays an nvidia “Gsync compatible” popup on bot-right corner of the screen… I may have missed a setting but damn it grinds my gears.

            Last argument pushing me for a return is the fact that I discovered 2-3 dead pixels (always black) on the bottom right corder at like.. 1cm of the border.
            Not that bad but psychologically disturbing when you’ve spent that much money.

            FI27Q-X looks very interesting as a non-curved alternative indeed, and yet, now that I’ve tried 32″ ….. mehh it’s not “that” big !

            I thought picking a choice to replace my Benq would be easy and fluent, I was so wrong.

            #67871
            jombotski

              Hello guys,i just got the Samsung G7 27 (yeah i know i am pretty late,but i got it at good discount and the starting price at launch time was too high for me) anyways i have alot to share(been using it for like few days) BUT the main thing i noticed in your reply is that i have the 2021 revision with 10 brightness out of the box. Like i have read alot of reviews before getting this monitor,and all of them pointed how out of box brightness was set to max 100,but mine is set to 10.And i was like did i get faulty monitor or used ? Why was my starting brightness so low compared to all other reviews,then i noticed your reply about the changed standart in EU (i am from EU) and really it says on energy consumption 32 kWh/1000h and then below that is HDR 66 kWh/1000h. Anyways i was wondering is that the optimal calibrated setting to use? Did they actually calibrated it for use at 10 or just changed it because EU standart ? I dont know much about calibration(just basic stuff) i just want to use the monitor how its supposed to be optimal from the factory,i am the type of guy plug and play. My last monitor was set at like 80 default brightness,at times it felt like burning my eyes after long use.I am pretty statisfied with my current G7 out of the box settings,but wondered if i miss something on the brightness ? Noticed in some review that contrast change depend on brightness and they even measured at different levels of brightness different contrast.

              #67876
              PCM2

                Hi jombotski and welcome,

                The 27″ 240Hz Odyssey G7 remains a unique proposition without a successor, so it’s not ‘too late’ from that perspective. 😉 When it comes to calibration that really depends on individual preferences and your own unit, because they’re not all the same. If you prefer a relatively low brightness level that’s absolutely fine – use that and don’t let anybody try to sway you the other way. A brightness of ’10’, at least going by the original versions of this model, would sit ~100 cd/m² which is perfectly reasonable to use if you prefer things a little dimmer. It’s not super dim by any means. The contrast levels shouldn’t change based on brightness, that’s simply because the measurement instrument used isn’t precise enough to provide accurate black point readings. They usually give you a reading to the nearest 0.01 cd/m² and with VA models at relatively low brightness that can make a significant difference to your measured contrast either way. Making it appear significantly higher or lower than readings at brighter settings, where the black point is high enough that this lack of precision has less impact.

                #69380
                Albertron

                  I’ve been with the samsung g7 for a few days. It is superior in almost everything to my previous Lg-850b. The most significant are the much better blacks and contrast on the g7. In terms of response time I have not noticed any changes, I do not notice less blurring or ghosting, with the LG I did not notice anything either. The curve at first is strange, but in 4 days you get used to it. The only thing worse than the LG is the colors. In the G7 they are less lively, even so they are enough for my taste.

                  The problem my unit has is backlight bleeding. I find it annoying as it was with the LG, and the increase and improvement of contrast is useless, if in dark scenes a light is seen due to the bleeding of the screen. I have seen that loosening the panel screws can reduce bleeding, since it is caused by having the frame too tight. I think I’ll try to do this.

                  #69384
                  PCM2

                    Glad you’re enjoying it, overall. Unfortunately backlight bleed and clouding can certainly still negatively affect VA models – and this is more common with curved VA screens as well. They often have patches of clouding towards the top and bottom, which is not surprising given that such issues are caused or exacerbated by certain stresses placed on the panel after manufacture. And these stresses are increased when a screen is curved. It used to be the case that VA models were generally very strong in this regard but that isn’t something that holds true any more, it’s a lottery there just with the other LCD panel types.

                    #69393
                    planarray

                      A new contender in this flat VA 27″ 165Hz AG275QXN/EU?

                      #69397
                      PCM2

                        I’m not at all convinced the AG275QXN will be as good as the Odyssey G7 when it comes to pixel responsiveness. AOC made similar claims with the PD27 and whilst it was well above average in terms of pixel responsiveness, it simply wasn’t up to the levels of the Samsung. It is a model I’d be curious enough to review, if only it wasn’t restricted to the EU. Availability in the US is very important for our reviews, because the vast majority of users who support the site come from the US. So it’s one that will be bumped down the priority list, though remains a possibility at some point – I will be keeping an eye out for US availability as well.

                        #69711
                        BronzeKnee

                          I’ve got a newly dead pixel in an annoying spot on my beloved Aorus CV27Q, so it is time to replace it with another curved 1440 27 inch monitor. I loved curved monitors, so much I won’t consider a flat one. But it took me quite some time to get used to 1500R, and I wonder if 1000R on the Samsung or BenQ would be too much. I also really like the cable management options the Aorus provides, and the Samsung seems wholly lacking here.

                          That said, seems like these are the contenders (price is no object):

                          BenQ EX2710R
                          Asus VG27WQ
                          AOC CQ27G2
                          ViewSonic XG270QC
                          Samsung Odyssey G7

                          The Asus and ViewSonic seem a bit slow when it comes to pixel response (maybe no worse than Aorus though), the Samsung seems to have great response, but what about the BenQ? Is it the same panel as the Samsung? If so, I can probably eliminate the Samsung since the BenQ has better cable management.

                          What would you guys recommend?

                          #69714
                          PCM2

                            The Samsung stands out for its pixel responsiveness, not to mention enhanced HDR capability and higher maximum refresh rate. The curve is certainly a feature and is something that is best assessed after some time using the monitor. If you grew to particularly like a curve, after trying 1500R, it’s probably worth giving it a try. The BenQ doesn’t share its pixel responsiveness (and certainly wouldn’t use the same panel given that it’s 165Hz not 240Hz). It has typical VA weaknesses including ‘smeary trailing’, though it would be no worse and potentially slightly better than the CV27Q by comparison. I should also add that any of these models can have or develop dead pixels and in terms of QC it’s always going to be something of a lottery.

                            #69813
                            DevonCM

                              I’m not at all convinced the AG275QXN will be as good as the Odyssey G7 when it comes to pixel responsiveness.

                              Are you any more confident in the AG275QZN or will that also likely be a smearing mess? I was interested when I saw the post mentioning a flat 27″ 1440 VA at 240Hz, but I don’t know if that suggests it would actually be any better than the alternatives. Although I guess it doesn’t matter much if it’s not available in the US anyway.

                              I’m sick of IPS glow and low contrast, and I want something to hold me over until the 27″ OLEDs are out, but I don’t know if there are even any good options. I’m waiting to see how the GP27Q is with its firmware update, but they don’t seem confident that they can improve SDR local dimming and without that it’s a lot less desirable. I also assume that any area that is lit will still have awful glow since they didn’t give it a polarizer, and small details on bright objects will still be low contrast which I’d imagine would just make stuff look weirdly washed out.

                              #69816
                              PCM2

                                Hi DevonCM,

                                Unfortunately I would expect that to apply to the AG275QZN as well. I hope AOC does end up releasing it in the US, sometimes they launch models there several months after the EU release. And I would certainly be open to testing it if it becomes available in the US. Or if I simply find myself at a loose end at some point as I do feel it’s an interesting model.

                                #69861
                                BronzeKnee

                                  Got my Samsung Odyssey G7 today. Box is very plain compared to competitors and other monitors I’ve bought, but this isn’t something I care much about. Setup instructions were non-existent also, which was interesting, but the monitor was easy to setup. I’m adapting quickly to the curve, 1000r isn’t that much different than 1500r it seems. Blacks are extremely dark, that will take more time getting used to that the curve.

                                  No dead pixels and I don’t see any backlight bleed, but there does appear to be a something stuck right under the screen (small dead bug?) on the right edge, just millimeters away from the edge of the screen. I will probably return this one due to the defect, it spans multiple pixels. Pretty disappointed with that, but I’m used to playing the panel lottery.

                                  Another thing that is interesting is that since I use Windows Night Light all the time to reduce blue light, it isn’t working properly on the left quarter of the screen. If I turn it off, everything looks even, but with it on, the left quarter of the screen is noticeably more bluish that the rest of the screen.

                                  Overall it is a very nice monitor.

                                  Edit: Oddly enough, I was able to move the debris with a magnet just to the side so it isn’t visible anymore so I’m going to keep the monitor despite the odd coloring with Windows Night Light on.

                                  #69867
                                  PCM2

                                    Thanks for sharing your feedback on the Odyssey G7, Bronze Knee. And also for supporting the site. 🙂

                                    I’m glad you’re enjoying the monitor and were able to get rid of the debris using a magnet – very crafty! 😀 The ‘Night light’ issue where it appears much cooler in tone towards the left of the screen could be a very specific uniformity issue. Or it could be partly viewing angle related. Does this reduce if you move your head so you’re viewing the screen from the left of centre? Either way, I wouldn’t worry about it if it’s only noticeable for the extreme colour temperature and other adjustments made to the image using the ‘Night light’ setting.

                                    #70115
                                    BronzeKnee

                                      Sadly, my G7 developed a dead pixel right in the center. I’m being offered a replacement LS27BG652ENXGO – which they state is the newer version of the monitor, otherwise they will refund me, but I’ll likely lose the Black Friday deal pricing if I try and buy the monitor anywhere else by the time the refund comes in.

                                      I realized the monitor they are offering is the Samsung Odyssey G6 even though Newegg doesn’t explicitly say it. Is it the same panel?

                                      #70121
                                      PCM2

                                        That’s a shame. When you say the dead pixel ‘developed’, did you specifically test for it earlier and not see it or is it possible you just noticed it recently? Just curious. Though you mention it was central to the screen so it probably did develop. The Odyssey G6 is a different model (well, obviously PCM) and I don’t believe it offers the same responsiveness level as the G7 and above models. It has various ‘Smart Hub’ features. But I don’t know for sure regarding responsiveness, I just wonder why they designated it as G6 otherwise – maybe you could be a guinea pig and find out! 😉

                                        #70122
                                        BronzeKnee

                                          I did test it for it with a dead pixel checker. Seems very unlikely I wouldn’t have seen it, but possible. Thanks for the info regarding the G6, I’ll have to find a way to get a G7.

                                          #70214
                                          BronzeKnee

                                            Purchased a new G7 on sale and returned the one I got from Newegg for a full refund a little over a week ago.

                                            So far the new G7 doesn’t have the minor uniformity issues the last had (or debris), also no dead pixels or noticeable black light bleed. It’s a great monitor, the black is far darker than any monitor I’ve ever used. Curve is great.

                                            Only minor issue is that the monitor doesn’t do a good job automatically switching sources. I go back and forth between my home PC and work laptop and sometime it switches automatically when I turn one off and the other on, and other times I have to manually change it. Previously G7 from Newegg had the same issue, and from a quick search seems I’m not alone, never had a problem with any other monitor. This doesn’t bother me much, just figured I’d note it.

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