December 31, 2016 at 8:45 pm #41151
Hi alizbazar (Albert), Happy New Year and welcome!
If you’re concerned about pixel density and found your 24″ 1920 x 1200 model to be something of a sweet spot, then I think you’d feel right at home with a 32″ 2560 x 1440 model. There is actually a very recent thread with somebody in exactly the same position – https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/upgrade-from-24-1920-x-1200-to-27-2560-x-1440-monitor/. He was initially considering going for a 27″ 2560 x 1440 model, but instead decided that he’d like to keep the pixel density very similar to his current 24″ 1920 x 1200 model. There are no downsides to models like the BL3200PT for eyestrain over the Dell models, they’re excellent for viewing comfort.January 2, 2017 at 8:35 am #41159
Thanks, PCM, for the quick response! The thread that you mentioned was quite helpful.
BenQ also released a few new 32″ WHQD models, such as EW3270ZL and PD3200Q. Do you see any reason to wait for their release?January 2, 2017 at 6:09 pm #41165
I don’t think they will offer any revolutionary changes over existing models, so probably not.January 5, 2017 at 7:42 pm #41203
What type of monitors are currently the best to avoid eye strain? I need to choose two monitors (in dual screen setup) for my office and I am limited to 222 € per monitor to get it approved.
I work as IT professional so I have to stare at the monitor 8 hours per day, mostly displaying text.
Some time ago, I had Benq BT2411PT and despite the fact it was flicker free, I was disappointed by eye strain it caused and for me it was worse than older 22″ TN monitors. I am not sure if the problem was in IPS matrix or something else. Currently I am testing Dell P2417H second day and I feel some eye strain too.
I also wear glasses for slight farsightedness and astigmatism, but I wear them only for working with PC, which may also contribute to the eye strain.
I am thinking about these options that would fit into the budget:
24″ 16:10 – LG 24MB67PY (IPS flicker free, mostly because of 16:10 ratio)
24″ 16:9 – iiyama ProLite XB2483HSU-B2 (AMVA+, should be flicker-free) or BenQ BL2420Z (AMVA+ and flicker free)
27″ 16:9 – BenQ BL2700HT (AMVA+) or LG 27MB67PY (IPS)
I am particularly interested in 2 points:
– Does 27″ 1920×1080 monitor make significantly less eye strain than 24″ monitor with the same resolution? 27″ may be a bit too big for my office desk in dual monitor setup, but I can try that if it should be significantly better.
– Is AMVA+ significantly better than IPS from eye strain perspective? AMVA+ has much higher contrast and doesn’t use 6bit colors with FRC, so potentially it should be better, but I am not sure how important it is in reality… Unfortunately I don’t see any 16:10 VA flicker-free monitor that would fit into my budget (I am moreless limited to one supplier only).January 5, 2017 at 7:53 pm #41208
As this thread highlights there are many factors which affect viewing comfort and many different opinions and views on what would be best. I would also recommend taking a look at this thread, at least the first few posts, as it summarises some of the key things to look out for.
The fact you’ve used the BL2411PT and found it bothersome to your eyes despite it being flicker-free could have been for a number of reasons. Same for the Dell P2417H. What sort of brightness settings were you using and did you ever try the ‘Reader’ mode on the BenQ or ‘ComfortView’ feature of the Dell?
To address your questions:
– The level of eye strain based on pixel density depends entirely on your own eyesight and the viewing distance. As you say you wear glasses for farsightedness (hyperopia/hypermetropia) and also have an astigmatism this could be a factor and you may find 27″ 1920 x 1080 more comfortable.
– AMVA+ or VA in general is not usually considered more comfortable than IPS-type screens. It is nice to have relatively inky-looking text, but technically high contrast can be counter-productive for viewing comfort as the eye spends more time adjusting to changing light levels. It’s the premise of Samsung’s ‘EyeSaver’ mode which purposesfully knocks down contrast and it seems some other manufacturers are looking to implement similar ‘features’. There are many factors, though, and some users do find ‘IPS glow’ visually bothersome and for whatever reason find the image on VAs more visually pleasing and comfortable. So VA models may well be worth trying, especially over other IPS models which will likely be very similar to what you’ve already tested and had issues with.
Are there any monitors you’ve used recently (or screens, including laptops) which you found comfortable?January 6, 2017 at 12:14 pm #41213
Thank you for your reply. I didn’t use Reader mode on the BenQ, but I tried ComfortView now on the Dell and it doesn’t seem to be significantly better.
But I noticed some level of improvement when switching from default Dell preset to warm colors, reducing brightness to 20% (while I still have contrast set to 75%, maybe I should try reducing that too) and increasing display Sharpness from 50 to 90 in Dell’s OSD.
I feel like my eyes have often difficulties to focus on the text and stay somehow unfocused after a while, just staring in the direction of the monitor without proper focus and without much of blinking, so that I get headache and dry eyes after some time. It could be also result of my glasses or farsightedness with astigmatism…
So I am thinking whether 27″ monitor (with bigger pixels) or 24″ VA panel (with different pixel matrix, higher text contrast and 8 bit colors without FRC) can be better. However I don’t have possibility to test them before ordering, as people in the office generally have 24″ IPS screens (and some have 32″ with high resolution)
I think I found 22″ TN monitor with 1680×1050 resolution more comfortable to my eyes and the text looked somehow sharper. I had 19″ 1280×1024 monitor with MVA screen and CCFL some years back and I think it was fine. Just a few years ago, I bought 23″ MVA 1080p monitor from Benq at home, but I returned it (mostly due to motion blur, I don’t remember how was it from the eye strain perspective) and bought 23″ IPS from HP instead, but I usually don’t use it for prolonged period of time like in the office, so it is moreless fine…hard to compare it 🙂January 6, 2017 at 2:45 pm #41214
Why not kill two birds with one stone and try a 27″ VA model? The BL2700HT on your list, for example?January 6, 2017 at 8:41 pm #41223
Hi, in 16:10 and 24 inch format, which do you recommend for Easiest monitor on eyes for daily usage?
I’ve been reading about the Eizo EV2455 and the NEC EA245WMi. Both look like very good options.
Or better some other like the Dell U2415, HP, Benq, etc. ???
Thanks a lot!!!!!January 6, 2017 at 8:44 pm #41231
A lot of this depends on pricing, because in my view the U2415 is an excellent monitor that provides everything you need for a comfortable viewing experience. It’s as good or better than any 24″ 16:10 model out there, in my view. It has a good luminance adjustment range, flicker-free backlight, well calibrated IPS panel and a Low Blue Light setting (‘Paper’ mode). No reason to pay more for something from NEC and EIZO.January 6, 2017 at 11:43 pm #41238
PCM2: Yes, I am thinking about getting BL2700HT as primary monitor, and some IPS 24″ (like LG 24MB67PY or DELL P2417H) as secondary (IPS may be better for looking from angle).
However I have suspicion that the problems can be caused also by anti-glare filter, as my HP 23xi at home is relatively better (even when it has PWM) and I have hazy feeling that GW2450HM, which I tried before that (3 years ago), was worse…but it was mainly due to motion blur and ghosting (even scrolling a black text made significant yellow or blue ghosts – depending on AMA/overdrive setting) that I returned it. I am a bit worried if BL2700HT won’t have that too. Also colors were quite more washed-out than on IPS…January 7, 2017 at 9:03 am #41242
The screen surface isn’t particularly light on the HP 23xi, not compared to various models you found uncomfortable. And the 22″ TN model you used to use is presumably similar. The BL2700HT does have a lighter screen surface than all of those, incidentally, regardless of if it is a factor in your case.January 9, 2017 at 2:42 pm #41263
OK, so I found out that BL2700HT exceeds the budget limit (by just 10%), so I have to choose something cheaper.
So if I want to try 27″ VA monitor, I can order one of those without pivot or adjustable height and go down with ergonomy:
BenQ EW2750ZL (what is difference between this and the previous one, except design?)
BenQ GW2760HS (it seems like quite old model already)
Eventually there are some IPS monitors also without pivot/adjustable height:
Or I can just forget about having primary monitor 27″ and 24″ as secondary, and just get two 24″ 16:9 monitors:
iiyama ProLite XB2483HSU-B2 as one to try VA panel as primary and Dell P2417H or ASUS BE249QLB (which of those 2 has lighter surface/antiglare filter?) as secondary
Alternatively, I could try also ordering two 24″ BL2420PT with 2560 x 1440 resolution – how does such high resolution work with sensitivity to eyes?January 9, 2017 at 2:48 pm #41264
The GW2760HS may be ‘an old model’, but the panel used has actually been updated to something very similar to the EW2750ZL, according to my BenQ contacts. Another advantage is that it has VESA holes, so you can attach it to a fully adjustable stand. Given the relatively low price (in most regions), you could invest some of the savings in a nice stand. The EW2775ZH I have no experience with, but I imagine core performance will be similar to the others just with the extra features noted in the news piece.
Higher pixel density doesn’t really affect viewing comfort unless you struggle to read things on it. So that’s a very individual thing. I’m currently using a model with exactly the same pixel density as the BL2420PT and find it very comfortable, but my eyesight is also very good.January 9, 2017 at 5:26 pm #41265
Hmm, I see…Unfortunatelly that won’t help me much with the decision, whether to take 27″ 1080p VA monitor, regular 24″ or 2k 24″ 🙁 It is difficult to judge if higher or lower pixel density would suit me better without testing it..
Which of the monitors currently have the lightest / smoothest antiglare filter, which doesn’t blur text? I was trying to find some information on google, but I found just multiple references from year 2011 about VA panels being better for text than IPS due to IPS have too grainy coating (and crystaline white color), but I think LG made coating on IPS panels smoother since those times. Especeially DELL and LG monitors were said to have very grainy coating. Then on other side, some people mentioned VA panels have the worse subpixel structure making the text more blurry.
Regarding to Benq VAs, I don’t think I could order extra stand for the monitor, so saving money on monitor selection won’t help me much. Unless I can use stand from some old broken Dell monitor for Benq 🙂 Perhaps EW2775ZH could offer something useful over GW2760HS, just because it si newer model, but hard to guess 🙂 I can as well put some books under its stand to make it higher (I am relatively tall). BTW, do you know what is the difference between older panel used in original GW2760HS and new AMVA+ panel in new models?January 9, 2017 at 6:15 pm #41266
To help you out, Full HD VA panels generally have lighter screen surfaces and smoother surface textures than Full HD IPS panels. For higher resolution IPS models there is a lot of variation and for the 23.8″ models the screen surface tends to be a bit grainy (refer to this review). The EW2775ZH has a light matte surface with smooth surface, similar to the EW2750ZL and others as we’ve reviewed.
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