24” 1080p 144hz IPS monitors are finally here!

It seems that lot of people had this issue with the Acer. You can see this on Reddit… it’s very annoying…

pointb,

There are plenty of threads discussing this model – certainly no need for another one, so I’ve merged yours with this thread. 🙂

1) Pay no attention to specified response times. We don’t write reviews and record videos in such detail so users can ignore that whilst expecting everything to be wrapped up into a tiny misleading figure. Things aren’t that simple, it would save me a lot of time if they were. The AOC 24G2U is vastly more responsive than the ML239H, accounting for both pixel response times and refresh rate. Look at the pursuit photographs, which clearly demonstrate the benefits of increased refresh rate (and frame rate) on perceived blur levels. The ML239H is not as responsive at 60Hz as the AOC – let alone the fact it’s only limited to 60Hz and there is significant benefit from an increase beyond that. Even if you compare that fast TN 60Hz reference (XG240R @60Hz) to the AOC at 144Hz, you can see clear advantages from 144Hz refresh rate.

2) No, as per the review the sRGB emulation (‘Color Temp. sRGB’) setting locks off brightness control. I’d advise you read the review more carefully as it’s quite clearly not an “sRGB” experience which this model offers nor is that what our ‘Test Settings’ would achieve. If you’ve got an AMD GPU there is a setting in the driver which may offer the sort of look you’re after. Didn’t have time to cover it in this review, but we’ve looked at it in others (reference). You simply need to open ‘Radeon Settings’, navigate to ‘Display’ – ‘Color’ (little icon towards the top right) and press the ‘Color Temperature’ toggle so it reads ‘Automatic’ instead of ‘6500K’. It will act as an sRGB emulation setting of sorts.

I appreciate English may not be your native language and I don’t meant to come across as harsh. It’s just that I spend a lot of time and effort on these reviews and I appreciate if users take some time to read/watch them rather than asking questions which are answered in the review. I know they’re long and there’s a lot of information to absorb, but hopefully this post clarifies your questions.

In my country the ViewSonic XG2405 is starting to be sold, but I just can’t find any review, info or feedback about it. Do any of you have it or know something about it? It looks so good (144hz, IPS, 1ms; like the AOC 24G2).

The 24G2(U) is currently in stock in the US. It has been in and out of stock a few times over the weekend, hopefully it stays in stock for a good while now.

Sorry, I’ll be more specific about each one.

24G2 – Immediate and pronounced headaches regardless of brightness/contrast setting. Horrendous GSync/Brightness flicker in almost all games I play. I didn’t test this for more than a few days before it went back. I couldn’t deal with the headaches.

XG240R – Somehow the Gsync flicker was even worse with this one. The colors were pretty okay after calibration. It felt responsive and good to play games on but the headaches came back after 3 days.

I don’t think I’m doing a very good job here of explaining myself. Let me try once more! 🙂

For the 24G2, I noticed it in the menu areas of Destiny 2 and Wreckfest. It was particularly distracting. I felt the 24G2 also had too wide of a color gamut for my personal tastes. I followed the Blurbusters guide for setting up GSync properly and this flicker occurred over a broad range of refresh rates.

My current system is a 9600k/NVIDIA 1660ti. I typically have zero issues keeping a consistent framerate in the games I play. This VG249Q was immediately easier on my eyes, even at the stock brightness/contrast setting. I have no flickering in any menu in any game at this time. Extremely minimal IPS glow and BLB on this unit as well. I fully admit that my issues with the previous monitors may be a “me” issue and not specifically those units themselves.

by the way, I think it’s a pity that tests are done on the coating, but not on any impairment by the coating regarding sharpness etc.

What exactly are you suggesting? We’re the only monitor reviewers who actually mention the coating in much detail and always mention the effect it has on the image in terms of level of graininess. It’s mentioned in enough detail to bore some users, in several places throughout our reviews (both written and perhaps moreso video reviews). There is no way to quantify something like “impairment regarding sharpness” (aside from mentioning graininess, subjectively and talking about haze value as we do). Because that “impairment” is an individual and subjective thing.

The screen surface used on the 24G2(U) is actually slightly less grainy than that used on the vast majority of 144Hz Full HD monitors, including all TN models and any IPS-type models using different panels. Including the VG259Q, as you discovered. Most users are absolutely fine with even ‘grainier’ and higher haze screen surfaces and certainly much ‘worse’ surfaces than the 24G2(U) uses. I don’t like them myself, which is why I explore this aspect in reviews in is much detail as I do and as much as I reasonably can. If you don’t like the screen surface of the 24G2(U) then you’re out of luck, certainly with the XG2405 that uses the same CELL as covered already. You’d need to consider a VA model like the AOC C24G1 instead or even better switch to a WQHD or higher resolution option.

There are no monitors directly comparable to the 24G2U that are “less matte” (i.e. that have a significant lower haze value or smoother surface texture). If you’re expecting that, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. “Dramabomb” had issues that were caused by other aspects, because the screen surface is part of the CELL or panel and doesn’t vary between screens using the same CELL. It’s correct that many intertwining factors can cause viewing comfort issues. Finding a screen surface troublesome coupled with not getting on the brightness, backlight or other aspects of the image appealing could certainly cause issues.

Actually they don’t use the same panel, hence the differences. The AOC AG271QG uses the AUO M270DAN02.3 and the Acer XF270HUA uses the M270DAN02.6. As I said, though, it is a combination of factors you need to consider so you’re absolutely right to give the ASUS VG249Q a try and see if it works out better for you. It’s unfortunate ASUS are so selective with their review samples as I wouldn’t mind reviewing that model.

Edit: No further discussion on the topic of screen surface variations, unless to add specific feedback after hands-on testing. The AOC 24G2(U) and ASUS VG249Q both use the Panda LC238LF1F CELL. The screen surface is part of the CELL, a 25% haze ‘medium’ matte anti-glare screen surface which comes as part of the package. There can be variations due to different sub-variants of a given CELL (or panel), but there are no known subvariants of this Panda CELL and it is a standard spec. All the monitor manufacturers (or panel assemblers – TPV etc.) do is add their own backlight solution, that is the only change differentiating the ‘panels’ used in these monitors.

I agree. I’m a big fan of glossy or near-glossy screen surfaces and they are far too rare on monitors. I recently posted something along these lines with reference to 27″ WQHD models, although it was more of a general comment really and certainly applies to the 24″ Full HD options as well.