[Whatsowhatso]

Ok, one more question, how is pixel density on GW2760HS? I read that on 27″ monitors you can see blockiness running 1080p, and ideally on 27” you wold want to run something like 1440p?

[PCM2]

Ideally yes, but personally I find 27″ and 24″ fairly comparable for overall pixel density related image issues. I am using a 27″ 1920 x 1080 monitor right now in fact.

[Whatsowhatso]

Any good 24” VA alternatives? Just in case.

[PCM2]

The Iiyama model that was mentioned is the most decent choice really. The current 24″ BenQs aren’t really comparable to their 27″ models, although many people still find them decent enough.

[Malinkadink]

Whats the word on BenQs upcoming VAs for 2015? The EW2775ZH for instance? I’d really like to buy into a new panel especially one that has VESA mounting capabilities that the EW2740L lacks.

[PCM2]

Afraid not. The EW2775ZH isn’t due out until Q4, anyway.

[Malinkadink]

Really want to give VAs a try, but waiting until Q4 to do it doesn’t sound good D: Is the EW2740L still the best one out there? I like it except for the lack of VESA mounting holes and or a height adjustable stand. Theres the VN279QL but i take it that it is still inferior to the BenQ? What about the GW2760HS? Does the newer revision now use the same panel as the EW2740L? The glossy bezels are unfortunate but that can be fixed with some gaffer tape.

[PCM2]

That’s certainly my feelings about the EW2740L. The GW2760HS does indeed use the same panel now, but it seems that the overdrive circuitary is still different. So the EW2740L uses stronger acceleration whereas the GW2760HS uses weaker acceleration but is free from overshoot in ‘AMA High’, as per the respective reviews.

[Malinkadink]

The problem i would potentially face if i order a GW2760HS is getting one of the older revisions, what would you say are the chances of that happening? Also is it possible to enter the service menu on the EW2740L or the GW2760HS and fine tune the overdrive settings to come as close to eliminating any trailing without introducing overdrive artifacts?

[PCM2]

Merith – I moved your post. 🙂

[Malinkadink]

So I’ve finally decided on a VA monitor, and it’s gonna be the BL2420Z, the question is now when will these things go on sale? I’m hoping sometime this Summer, so i can get my hands on one sooner!

[PCM2]

I hope to see the BL2420Z sooner rather than later and will definitely be reviewing it when BenQ have a sample for me.

[Subzero11]

I currently have a GW2760HS I’ve had it for 8 months and it’s a great monitor but maybe not for me. See I sit about 2 feet from it and the PPI seems kinda low and also I think the monitor is just to big to use at 2 feet for me. When playing BF online I think the problem is I can’t take the whole image/screen at once without moving my eyeballs. Correct me if I’m wrong but my eyes should be fixed in the center of the screen and not have to move around, at least that’s what I’ve been told. Yes I could move the monitor back further but I feel that takes me out of the game a little. So I’m thinking if I have to move the monitor back then why even have a 27″ and I should have gotten a 24″.

So here’s the thing I’ve narrowed it down to just a handful of 24″ I’d consider getting.

Samsung S24E390HL newer model
Dell U2414H
BenQ EW2440L (VA)

At first when I started my research into getting 24″ the BenQ EW2440L seemed like the sure thing but after reading some one review and forum comments about this unit it seems like Benq dropped the ball on this model. Plus I don’t really like the stand with that phone holder thingy.

Having good blacks is important to me and I saw pics comparing movies shots on the (24″ Samsung S24D390HL older model last year) and a (32″ VA) sorry I don’t remember the exact details of the VA monitor but anyway seeing the comparisons of the movies shots in the dark I was kinda like wow there’s is a big difference for blacks between VA and IPS.

I know that the Samsung S24D390HL/Dell U2414H are solid performers but now I afraid to buy either one of these due to blacks not being as good as I need them to be. Also top of that I’m using a good VA right now so for me to go to a IPS monitor might be difficult. The thing though I don’t watch movies on my monitor it’s only for web/gaming.

It’s hard to find a good 24″ VA. I know the Samsung S24E390HL is currently being reviewed I believe and I kinda am anxious to see what the review will say. But I would be a fool to think that it’s blacks would be any where near of current VA models levels.

Am I being just a little to picky and should just buy either the S24E390HL/S24D390HL or the U2414H I mean these are popular well reviewed monitors. I’ve read the newest versions of U2414H have very low amounts glow and they look good. I live close to a microcenter so it’s good just in case I need to return it for whatever reason but I hate doing that though. I mean how often do you hear people talking negatively about the blacks in either of the two IPS I’ve mentioned maybe it’s just during a movie it’s is the worse, who knows.

I could just wait till BenQ releases the BL2420Z & GW2470H VA panels here in the USA but gee how long could that take ? 6 months possibly and they may not release both either, then wait for reviews it could be till next spring before the ball gets rolling on these two monitors, am I exaggerating do you think they could be available this fall ?

I’ve talked a lot and asked many questions and I’m really hoping someone(s) could comment on much of my concerns. Thank you very much and have a good day.

[PCM2]

Hi Subzero11 and welcome,

I can appreciate that you’re in a difficult position and agree that the current 24″ VA models are lacking. There is definitely an easily perceivable difference in the depth of blacks on dark colours on VA models compared to IPS-type panels. You can’t appreciate those differences by looking at images on your own monitor, of course, unless the contrast can also match a VA panel and the shot has perfect exposure to showcase the differences correctly. At any rate you can definitely see that there is a difference.

What I would suggest is seeing for yourself how you find one of the strong IPS-type performers. I can tell you in advance that the S24E390HL is very similar to the S24D390HL, so you shouldn’t expect any miracles when it comes to contrast performance – but it is still decent and you may find it good enough. Buy from somewhere with a good returns policy so you can return it if you’re not satisfied. And if that’s the case I really would recommend waiting for the BenQ BL2420Z or GW2470H to see how they turn out.

If waiting for those models or something similar to come to the US is too difficult, as that may indeed take several months, then have you also considered some of Samsungs curved models? The curve is really very subtle and not something I’d ‘worry’ about. Then again you’d be going in blind as there is very little feedback on them. I will be testing out either or both the S24E510C and S24E650C as soon as Samsung have some review samples available.

[Subzero11]

Okay thanks for that info, I just remembered something I wanted to ask, how would the matte level of the S24E390HL/U2414H compare to my GW2760HS ? Would I be correct to assume that the S24E390HL would be almost as light as my current GW2760HS and the U2414H be in the 3rd place ? I get the feeling that the U2414H is by far the least light. In your review you call it a light AG coating so would my GW2760HS be considered a semi-gloss ? I’ve seen a P2414H in person before and would I be wrong to say it looked a little grainy and thick compared to my GW2760HS.

Okay you saying that even though it’s a IPS depending on the contrast it can effect the dark colors by a lot ? So let me ask you this sorry if this is putting you on the spot between the two IPS models I’ve mention already which do you think represents blacks better ?

Thanks

[PCM2]

That’s correct about the anti-glare surfaces. The Samsung is closer to the BenQ, but it still isn’t what you might call ‘semi-glossy’. It is just quite a light matte surface with a nice smooth texture. The Dell on the other hand has quite a grainy surface by comparison, even if it is lighter than older IPS models. The black representation of Samsung’s AD-PLS and LG’s AH-IPS (i.e. the Samsung and Dell models) is really very much comparable and I wouldn’t use that as a reason to buy one over the other.

[Subzero11]

Do you have a ballpark time frame when the S24E390HL will be available to read ? I’m asking cause I want to pull the trigger on it soon. I know your busy I won’t ask again. Thanks

By the way I have a quick question about my current monitor the GW2760HS without adjusting the timings manually I was able only to OC the monitor to 66hz, which was pretty disappointing. So I found a template someone else made for the same monitor and I used it to adjust the timings and was able to get up to 72hz. For some reason I thought this model was easily cable of doing 72hz without any timing adjustments. I know it’s probably due to not every panel even from the same model is the same correct ?

I know you’ve mentioned in the past a mild OC of 72-75hz was probably very safe. But is it still as safe though if I had to adjust the timings manually ? or do you advise only to OC with the automatic settings only and to never use the manual settings ? So basically I’ve never should have gone over 66hz. Thanks this website of yours is really cool.

[PCM2]

I’m currently on holiday, so that will delay the review a bit. But I have tested it enough to say that it is very similar to its predecessor. And it will comfortably overclock to 72-76Hz as will be covered in the review.

The variability in overclocking on the GW2760HS stems from different revisions and the fact different panels and possibly other internal differences are used in original vs. newer units. I would not advise timing adjustment when overclocking. It is probably not going to damage the screen directly, but it will allow you to increase refresh rate and hence push the monitor ‘harder’ than I feel would be a comfortable level. It just doesn’t sit well with me, so I personally advise against such overclocking where timing adjustment is involved.

[Subzero11]

I’m not sure any more which to buy anymore there’s the new S24E310HL with a VA panel now on Amazon. Or I could go with the one I was going to buy in the next couple of weeks the S24E390HL. According to customer reviews (which don’t really mean much) seems pretty solid S24E390HL. No one has said or talked about the S24E310HL yet.

I like the simple metal brush look of the S24E310HL and it’s a VA but it has 8ms.

S24E390HL has a lower gtg of 4ms. But that stuff is usually pretty overrated.

My current GW2760HS has a GTG of 4ms according to Benq. But according to TFT-Central it’s average GTG is more like 10.9ms, I’m still using this monitor and never had any problems with it.

Which one should I get if I could get choose one ? I’d like to buy both and test them and return one after testing but not sure I want to play that game. But I wouldn’t know how to test properly, to really formulate a real opinion. Best thing I could would be play some of my games like BF3/4 and go from there. I make the whole screen black by the way to check for bleed/glow ? Thanks

[PCM2]

Please refer to this thread as you’ve mentioned a few retailers, which isn’t allowed here.

The issue with VA panels in particular is that there is a huge amount of variability in response times depending on the transitions used. If you look at the GW2760HS as reviewed by TFT Central, for example, the fastest grey to grey transition recorded using ‘AMA High’ is 4.6ms whereas the slowest was 33.8ms. This reflects our subjective observations of that and similar VA models.

The S24E310HL is of course a brand new model and not one I have tested yet nor received any user feedback on. So I couldn’t possibly recommend it or advise against it. With places like Amazon you’ve got a superb returns policy on your side, of course, but you’d be taking a bit of a chance. You might really enjoy it though. And I wouldn’t advise doing anything out of the ordinary or specifically checking for issues that you wouldn’t notice during normal use. That sort of testing is nowhere near as useful as simply using the monitor normally and seeing if issues crop up. Of course you can check for backlight bleed and the like using a black screenfill, but even if you do spot some you’d have to assess whether this would be problematic for you during normal use.

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