IPS and VA gaming monitor direct comparison

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  • #40170
    karandex

      OK then S2415H it is. Need to save bit for it. Samsung was 30 usd cheaper with free bluetooth levelu headset.

      #40176
      karandex

        So what i am getting is va have better contrast and ips hav better e viewing angle and Colors . I am still torn Between s2415h and cf390. The later ia about 50.usd cheaper.

        #40177
        PCM2

          It’s highly subjective and above the detailed analysis I’ve given already in reviews and on this thread I can’t really provide further assistance. It’s a decision you’ll have to make yourself.

          #40178
          karandex

            I checked out hardforum regarding dell and all of the people there had issue with ips glow. How big is this issue?

            #40179
            PCM2

              The effects of this are covered in the review. The level of IPS glow on that model is in my view quite typical for an IPS-type panel of the size. A little more than some of the models with relatively low glow, such as some of the glossy 25″ HP models, but not a dramatic difference if the brightness of both is at a sensible level (i.e. lower than it is out of the box). It’s highly subjective whether it would be a problem for you or not I’m afraid, it’s just another thing you really have to judge for yourself first hand.

              #42856
              svardie

                Hi. Just bought Samsung C27F591FD monitor, thanks to review. Overall impressions quite good. This is my first 27″ curved monitor. Now first “wow” effect has past away. So, i spending my time messing around with settings, trying to make it better than default settings. It will be good to see other people’s settings here. I don’t have special monitor calibration equipment and software, so only things that i can rely on is my eyes and other owners experience.
                Right now i’m using settings from Adam’s reviews:
                58 brightness
                75 contrast
                60 sharpness
                Custom color settings: R50 G45 B43
                Gamma mode 1
                Upscale Off
                Game mode Off
                Response Time Faster

                I don’t understand, why use Response Time on “Faster”, rather then “Fastest”. Isn’t it good to make response as fast as possible, or it will come with some negative effects, when set to “Fastest”?

                P.S. “Game mode” is so bad, i don’t even understand why someone would use it. My eyes bleeding from it.

                #42860
                PCM2

                  Yes, ‘Game Mode’ is terrible. It is on many monitors but I make specific effort to urge people in the review not to bother with it. The reason that ‘Faster’ is used rather than ‘Fastest’ is covered in the written review for the C27F591. ‘Fastest’ introduces significant unsightly inverse ghosting (overshoot) whilst conferring no real advantage. Avoid it, along with ‘Game Mode’.

                  #43110
                  svardie

                    I found http://www.lagom.nl website, made some tests and find this settings suitable for me:
                    Brightness: 58+. I add more, when playing games.
                    Contrast: 75.
                    Sharpness: Upscale to Mode1, when playing games. 60 when not.
                    Color: Standart (50/50/50). Reason why i changed it from 50/45/43 is that i can barelly see last square in “White saturation” test when using default settings and can’t see it at all when using 50/45/43.
                    Gamma: Mode 1
                    Response Time: Faster

                    #43735
                    svardie

                      Is there is any info about how upscale technology works in Samsung monitors? Does it provide any extra latency to image processing? I cant decide rather i want to use it or no. I run my monitor in native 1080p so, probably, no. But its add some nice extra sharpening in games, where native image is blurry and unclean by itself. Mode 1 seems to be not so unnatural, but i turn it off when not gaming mostly.

                      #43736
                      PCM2

                        It simply oversharpens the image. It is no different to a specially tuned sharpness control and has no processing delay impact (i.e. does not add latency). It is called “MagicUpscale” because it is designed to compensate for some of the softening associated with viewing low resolution content or running the monitor at a non- native resolution. If you like the look it gives by all means use it. It will not impact responsiveness.

                        #43738
                        svardie

                          Thank you for answer.
                          After few months wth C27591FD i personally like “Basic color” mode mostly. I like how it gently lowers image saturation little bit, so image feels more natural for me. Great monitor after all, very satisfied with him.

                          #44843
                          sludgebelcher

                            Looking for a 1080p, ~24″ multimedia monitor for movies, casual gaming, and general desktop use. My primary monitor is Acer XB241H (FHD, TN, 144Hz) and I think the colors look fine, maybe a little washed. I’ve never experienced VA or IPS monitors so I’m not sure which panel type is best but from what I read it’s either IPS or VA so I’ve narrowed my options to:
                            1- IPS: Acer CB241HY or Samsung S24E310HL
                            2- VA: Samsung C24F390 vs Samsung C24FG70 (a little too expensive)

                            #44848
                            PCM2

                              Hi sludgebelcher,

                              I’ve merged your thread with this one as it’s an appropriate place. I’d advise taking a look through this thread, or at least my first post and watching the video there. That should help you choose either the VA or IPS path.

                              As for the models you mention, I assume you mean Samsung S24E390HL, because the S24E310HL is a VA model?

                              #44849
                              sludgebelcher

                                After watching your video and reading your first post I decided to choose a VA monitor. Question: In your opinion, Is C24FG70 worth $100 more than C24F390?
                                Thanks Adam

                                #44850
                                PCM2

                                  It depends if you were planning to replace your XB241H completely or use both models for different tasks. The 144Hz refresh rate would certainly make the CFG70 easier to adjust to if it is going to be a replacement. But if you were only really going to use it as a secondary screen with less of a focus on gaming, the C24F390 should be fine.

                                  #46378
                                  d3Zz

                                    Hi there!

                                    First of all, I want to thank for all the amount of information in this website, I have been reading a lot and I finally decided to post here.

                                    I am looking for a 24inch monitor for my MSI GE62 2QF Apache Pro (GTX 970m). I recently bought the Iiyama ProLite XU2492HSU-B1 but I was so disappointed on the black color levels (they all look poor and grey…) that I decided to give it back.

                                    After reading and searching I found the following VA models.
                                    Samsung C24F390FHU
                                    – MSI Optix G24C
                                    Samsung C24FG70

                                    Good for gaming and reproducing the black color levels as well as having a good overall quality. They all have the same technology but I can’t decide. I don’t need more than 60Hz and FreeSync, therefore, the C24F390FHU would be ideal. But I really want colors, black levels, and image quality to be as good as possible. In most of the reviews, the C24FG70 excels on color/image quality but is the most expensive of course. Do you think the C24F390FHU will be enough? Can you think of any other recommendations?

                                    Thanks 🙂

                                    #46380
                                    PCM2

                                      Hi d3Zz,

                                      One of the key advantages of the C24FG70 compared to the other models is its generous colour gamut. Whereas the C24F390FH (and MSI) just scrape past sRGB, the CFG70 provides a good boost beyond that. This enhances colour vibrancy quite considerably and helps counteract some of the weakening saturation towards the bottom and flanks of the screen.

                                      Having said that, the C24F390FH still provides strong contrast and reasonably vivid colour reproduction and should provide a better experience (in theory) than the Iiyama you discarded. As you have no use for higher refresh rates, I do feel it might be misplaced to spend more on the CFG70. But make sure you can get the CF390 from somewhere with a good returns policy just in case.

                                      #46400
                                      d3Zz

                                        Thanks for the answer,

                                        I finally bought the C24FG70, I really like image quality. Once I update my PC in the future then I will be able to use the FreeSync and the higher Hz rates.
                                        Little investment. I hope I like it as much as you do 😀

                                        Best,

                                        #47482
                                        PCM2

                                          Note that the BenQ EW277HDR has replaced the Samsung C27F591FD on our recommendations page, as an excellent 60 – ~75Hz Full HD VA model. I like the curve of the Samsung (but can live without it), it has FreeSync and has slightly better pixel responsiveness. But the BenQ has; a wider colour gamut (more vibrant), better static contrast, less ‘VA glow’, no weird subpixel structure (better text clarity), is free from ‘interlace pattern artifacts’, less overshoot and uses a lighter screen surface. It was a simple choice for me to feature it as a recommendation really. and that has been strongly reinforced by user feedback I’ve received from those I’ve recommended it to. It’s not perfect, but it is worth every penny of its asking price in my view.

                                          #47485
                                          MASKOAA

                                            Good to know PCM, do you happen to know if theres a difference between that BenQ and the non HDR version under the same name? Obviously HDR is missing but would be cool to know if its the same panel. I’m currently using the Samsung C27F591 based off your review and couldn’t be happier but I’m always glad to hear of a replacement in case something happens to it. One thing I recommend for everyone is bias lighting if your setup supports it….a white light casted on a light colored wall preferably a white wall or a light light grey will noticeably increase the inkyness of the black levels especially on VA panels.

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