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- February 6, 2014 at 7:09 pm #28151PCM2
As I mentioned above there are several improvements made to the P2414H. If you really fancy the 1920 x 1200 resolution and 16:10 aspect ratio then the BenQ BL2411PT is a much better choice. It is really the 16:10 monitor to go for at the moment. It has a lighter matte screen surface (less grain) than the U2412M, better colour gamut, better default colour setup after a few simple tweaks, flicker-free backlight and is more responsive. I know responsiveness isn’t important for your uses but I’d definitely recommend the BenQ over the Dell if you’re after a 16:10 model.
February 6, 2014 at 7:16 pm #28153JohnBut it’s more expensive, so i will go for the P2414H 😉
Thnx a lot for your help!February 6, 2014 at 7:20 pm #28154PCM2Yes there’s definitely the cost to consider. I hope you enjoy the P2414H and I’m sure you will! Please post back how you find it.
February 6, 2014 at 7:28 pm #28155JohnAfter i have tried it, I will definitely post back 😉
February 15, 2014 at 4:56 pm #28315PCM2Hi from Croatia. I would like to ask for your advice. I am an auditor working most of the day in excel and word. Very often I am comparing two documents side by side. I have also laptop monitor (new monitor would be connected to it through docking station). At the moment I am using Dell 19 inch monitor.
My office currently is on thye north side of the building and lightning in the room is not too bright. I would like to ask for your recomendation. I see that you were previously recomending BenQ GW2760HS. In your opinion – would be 27 or 24 inch diagonal better for me?
Here in Croatia i see this monitor, is this the one you are recomending – there is no HS simbol?
BenQ monitor GW2760, GW2760 GW2760, 27″, 16:9, 1920×1080, 300 cd/m2, 20.000.000:1, 178 °, 178 °, 4 ms, D-Sub,DVI-D, TCO 5.0, Boja crna
Thanks a lot for your help.
February 15, 2014 at 5:50 pm #28317PCM2In terms of viewing comfort 27″ and 24″ are both fine. The extra screen space with side by side documents could make things easier to see on the larger monitor. But because you will be considering monitors with the same resolution (1920 x 1080) it really depends on your preferences and how far you sit from the monitor as to which will be better.
The GW2760 is the same as the GW2760HM, which uses a different panel to the HS, but has different ports. The screen surface is not semi-glossy and although not specifically important for your uses – colour reproduction is not as good. There are also several complaints of a buzzing noise from the monitor. It does have a flicker-free backlight,at least. I wouldn’t recommend it as highly as the HS to be honest, but it could still be a decent monitor for work in excel and word if you can get one at a particularly good price.
February 15, 2014 at 10:28 pm #28331PCM2Thanks for quick reply. Based on my requirements, is there a monitor that you would recommend? As I understand, 16:10 should be good for me?
February 16, 2014 at 9:49 am #28333PCM2The 1920 x 1200 resolution (16:10 aspect) can give some useful extra vertical real-estate, yes. I’m not sure it’s necessarily ideal for side-by-side documents though, it is still only 1920 pixels across and just slightly less wide that a 24″ 16:9 model. It should still give comfortable viewing though and the extra vertical pixel space will be nice.
As for recommended 16:10 models I’d put the BenQ BL2411PT top of the list. Excellent image quality and viewing comfort characteristics, much better than older 16:10 monitors like the Dell U2412M.
March 5, 2014 at 5:19 pm #28748PCM2Hello
I was surfing the net for some answers and my search brought me here. I can see that many people ask the same question and you have offered great help. So i will try to keep it short and sweet.
I’ve been working a lot in front of a pc and my eyes have started to seriously complain. Therefore apart from the appointment i have tomorrow with the eye doctor, i would like to ask the following question.
Which are the best monitors in terms of minimizing eye fatigue? Can you please advise 3 monitors, between 21-24 inches up to 400 Euros? The most important feature i am looking for, is to reduce the eye fatigue as much as possible. I wouldn’t mind cutting down in other factors as long as i cause minimum strain to my eyes.
Looking forward to your reply and thanks for your time 🙂
March 5, 2014 at 5:36 pm #28749PCM2Hi Masboy and welcome,
Sorry to hear you’ve been having trouble with your eyes. Really you’ll be wanting models that can have the brightness nice and low, have a matte screen surface and a flicker-free backlight. So some to look at:
Dell P2314H
Dell P2414H
BenQ BL2411PTMarch 5, 2014 at 5:43 pm #28750PCM2Ok now thats what i call a quick reply. I will look into it and make my selection, thank you very much indeed for your quick reply and help on this matter.
Just a quicky though. I visited today an electronic shop and i asked the guy the same question. His answer was basically to buy an IPS monitor. Dont want to spend more of your time, i just wanted to know if the above models you suggest are IPS or VA or something else.
PS: 1 more thing! After a quick search i noticed that the BENQ you suggest seems to be bit better than the Dell ones. At least it looks better. However this model seems to be not that easy to find in Greece? Can u pls suggest a similar BENQ model, to expand my options?
Thanks again dear friend.
March 5, 2014 at 7:28 pm #28751PCM2It’s no bother, I’m here to help. The BL2411PT is one of very few BenQ IPS-panel monitors currently available. There is a cheap model with a simple glossy stand also available, the BenQ GW2320. I haven’t used this so can’t comment on how good it is or its brightness adjustment range. It does have a flicker-free backlight, matte screen and IPS panel though.
March 5, 2014 at 8:00 pm #28752PCM2Ok thank you very much. Whilst waiting for your reply i did a bit of search at BENQ website since i decided to go for a BENQ monitor. Indeed the BL/PT monitors seem to fit my needs. 1 point though. You suggested the 2411 and there is also the 2410.
Kindly have a look and let me know which one should i go for.
Thanks again.
March 5, 2014 at 10:19 pm #28767PCM2The BL2410PT uses a VA rather than IPS panel. Some people find the slight ‘3D effect’ and gamma shift that VA gives a bit uncomfortable visually, although more often than not people don’t have an issue with that from a visual comfort perspective and find it fine. A bit tricky to explain in a simple sentence, but this is probably why the guy at your computer store suggested looking for IPS models instead. It also has a 1920 x 1080 resolution (rather than 1920 x 1200). Only the latest revision of the BL2410PT (9H.L9JLB.RBE) has a flicker free backlight, the original one which many retailers still stock doesn’t. So really the BL2411PT is a more suitable choice, but you might find the BL2410PT fine for visual comfort.
March 5, 2014 at 10:25 pm #28768PCM2ok thanks i will follow your advise BL2411PT it is 🙂
March 16, 2014 at 11:14 am #28880PCM2I am also looking for advice for a new monitor,
After years working on a laptop i wanted something more restful for the eyes(mostly office/internet). I bought myself a iiyama prolite e2483HS thinking this would be great buy. But even after thinkering with brightness setting/resolutions/colors my eyes get blurry after a few hours. It’s very hard to find useful information about monitors on the internet.
My gut tells me it has something to do with the maximum refresh rate (60 hz) but i’m not sure. Maybe the monitor uses PWM? Anyway any help would be welcome.
March 16, 2014 at 4:25 pm #28906PCM2Hi Mach,
For work purposes it’s very unlikely that the 60Hz refresh rate is the culprit. It only affects the fluidity of motion and has nothing to do with flickering or other forms of static visual discomfort. This ‘sample and hold‘ behaviour is obviously very different to how CRTs operated with 60Hz refresh rates.
The Iiyama E2483HS does indeed use PWM to dim the backlight. What I usually recommend to users to help diagnose if this is an issue is to run the monitor at 100% brightness – PWM won’t be used at full brightness. Then reduce brightness and possibly contrast in the graphics driver until you find the screen brightness ‘comfortable’. These are digital brightness controls and adjusting them will massively reduce the measured and perceived contrast of the monitor but they’re useful to at least diagnose if PWM is causing you issues.
March 16, 2014 at 6:54 pm #28907PCM2Thank you for your reply,
I did as you suggested. Increased the brightness of the monitor to maximum, then reduced the brightness using the driver. That was 3 hours ago and i’ve been doing some office work since then. In the beginning it felt as if it was an improvement, no strain at first, but now i’m feeling some strain again. . So it seems PWM has something to do with the strain but if maximising the brightness disables PWM i shouldn’t feel any strain now?
I have until Tuesday to return this monitor but i’m not sure what to choose instead, i don’t want it to be expensive and 24 inch seems ok. Any advice?
March 16, 2014 at 7:18 pm #28908PCM2There could be a number of factors at play in addition to the PWM. People can experience eyestrain due to high levels of blue light from the monitor or a generally poor calibration (which can contribute to the former). Having a monitor with a decent factory setup and being able to use a low brightness on the monitor itself without killing contrast or introducing flickering may make for a much more comfortable experience. Even using digital brightness adjustment as you did in the graphics driver can’t lower the brightness as much as some users would like, either, with the monitor brightness set to 100%.
If you’re happy with the size and are prepared to return the Iiyama I’d recommend the 23.8″ Dell P2414H. I’ve recommended this to a number of users on this thread and elsewhere to people who find other monitors uncomfortable to view and they seem to really like it.
March 16, 2014 at 11:37 pm #28909PCM2Thank you for your advice. I will send this one back under the guarantee and see if i can get a dell P2414H. I’ll let you know how it fares.
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