[PCM2]

Your understanding is correct. I can’t recommend any FHD models with a light matte screen surface, specifically. You said you preferred Dell models, so for the 25″ QHD models you could consider the Dell U2520D – which is a newer version of the U2518D we reviewed a while back. It seems to be a good option in the 25″ space.

[soldier.93]

Hello,
thanks a lot for the support.
I really like the Dell models but I’m thinking that this way I wouldn’t have the 144 hz.. in order to correctly evaluate all the choices, is there any QHD 25″ model that you recommend in addition to the dell?
From the reviews (or at least this is my impression) it seems that the Dell Ultrasharp 25″ always has a too matte surface, am I wrong?
I also really liked the Dell G2422HS but by now I have ascertained that if I took the FHD 24″ due to its lower pixel density it would not be good as you confirmed here too.
It would be ideal to have a QHD 25″ with the least matte surface possible with 144Hz to also play games.
Since I need to have two monitors on my desk for work, I’m also considering getting a monitor without 144Hz for work (perhaps the dell U2520D) and another for gaming with 144Hz (perhaps a benq 25″?) both in QHD, is this a correct solution?
As far as I know, to get a good result, the two monitors should be the same model and the same resolution.
I take this opportunity to wish everyone a Happy New Year! 🙂

[PCM2]

For the U2518D I reviewed, I classified the screen surface as ‘very light matte anti-glare’ (though with my more recent classification I might consider it ‘light to very light’). So it’s significantly lighter than the matte surface used on the FHD alternatives. I haven’t seen the U2520D in person and screen surface is rarely covered in enough detail by reviewers and only occasionally gets the vague user comment. But judging from images of the screen switched off (such as this one) and RTINGS assessment of reflections on the screen it seems to have a similar light to very light matte surface to the U2518D.

I’m afraid there are no current 25″ 144Hz QHD options, they’re all 27″ and above. So you won’t be able to find the ‘one size fits all’ solution you’re looking for. It has been that way since the Dell S2417DG. I am quite sure there would actually be a larger market for such screens than manufacturers realise so I think it’s a shame their attention has gone elsewhere now.

[soldier.93]

I agree with you that the market could evaluate more opportunities and leave us more free to choose.
I have been confirming for a few days that I absolutely have to remove the P2319H, is it normal that it bothers me so much? I’ve never felt so bothered by a monitor. Its text is shadowed and pixelated, maybe putting it vertically would fix it.
After 1 hour my eyes burn too, is this panel so bad? 🙁
In short, it was better when I had the lenovo 21.5 instead of this P2319H.
I’ve tried every setting for this Dell (ICC profile, ca, bioluminosity, saturation, etc)
but nothing.
Has a monitor ever bothered you so much?
I wanted to ask you, also wanting to evaluate the 27” always two monitors and would they be fine on a desk 150 cm wide and 75 cm deep? would it be at a fair distance? (obviously putting the vesa support)
I apologize for asking so many questions but I would like to evaluate all the options, I am so demoralized that I was even thinking about going back to 21.5.. 🙁

one last thing with QHD resolution will I see sharper but smaller text?

Thanks a lot again

[PCM2]

Viewing comfort is a very individual thing. It certainly sounds like you are really disliking the combination of screen surface and pixel density on the P2319H. I find some monitors more comfortable than others for a multitude of reasons, but I am used to using a broad range of very different screens and I don’t ever suffer extreme discomfort. You’ll see from some of the threads on the forum (such as this one, which is 47 pages long) that some people really don’t get on with some monitors at all and do indeed suffer extreme discomfort.

A desk depth of 75cm should be fine for a 27″ monitor, particularly if using a VESA mount as you can put a good amount of distance between screen and eye if you wish. Remember that (depending on posture) your eyes might be a little way back from the frontmost edge of your desk as well. The width shouldn’t be an issue either. But as with viewing comfort, regardless of desk space the screen size can be an individual thing. It’s usually easier to adapt to a larger monitor than you’re used to than it is to viewing comfort issues that could plague your experience, however.

A tighter pixel density will improve the sharpness of text and make things smaller by default, yes. Unless you’re using scaling or application-specific zoom which can keep things the same size. And as long as you’re using applications which scale ‘cleanly’ (most do, on Windows now) you will still benefit from the improved clarity of the tighter pixel density. Recommended reading on the topic would include this old article focusing on 27″ FHD vs. QHD for desktop use and this one focusing on the ‘4K’ UHD resolution and looking more at the impact of scaling.

[Actarus]

Good morning.

I would like help choosing the most suitable monitor for me. I am hyperopic and this has given me presbyopia. I wear glasses. I’ve had a Dell 2209WA LCD monitor since 2011, and I’ve always been happy with it. Unfortunately it’s breaking down, and I don’t know how long I’ll be able to use it.
So I’m looking around, I haven’t been that up to date on new monitors for years and years. I know they don’t make any like mine anymore, they don’t make ccfl anymore, they’re all LED now, and 16:10 is rare too. I use my PC (I have Linux as my operating system) for many things, including occasionally playing native Linux games on Steam that are a few years old, mostly in 2D.

I would like a monitor with a dot pitch that doesn’t tire my eyes when reading, since I don’t see well up close, and for this reason I took the 2209WA which had a dot pitch of 0.282, excellent for me. Now if I took a 24″ I know that the dot pitch is 0.2745, I don’t know if it would make much difference for so little, and in any case I could always increase the characters from Linux. Then I would like it not to be so bright, on my 2209WA I have the brightness set to 19 and the contrast at 38 and I’m happy with it. Then obviously I would like the option of low blue light and no flickering. I would like the size to be 24 or 25 inches, it won’t fit on my desk more than that. And finally I would also like it to be adjustable in height.

I also made a list of monitors that I like, but I don’t know if they’re good , so I ask you for help. I don’t know about the budget, if the monitor is good I’ll buy it, for my eyes I’m not being cheap. However here is the list:

Dell S2421HS
Benq GW2485TC
MSI Pro MP243P
MSI Pro MP243XP
EIZO Flexscan EV2460
NEC MultiSync E243F

Thank you.

P.S. I apologize for any errors. My language is Italian, I used google translator for the English translation.

[PCM2]

Hi Actarus,

I’ve merged your thread with this one as it’s a suitable place. Given your previous monitor and how good you found it I think you’d find a ~24″ Full HD model comfortable. I have certainly received good feedback for the S2421HS so that would be my choice out of those. Some people also find higher refresh rates more comfortable, even for productivity. So also consider the BenQ EX240.

[Actarus]

Hi. First of all thanks for replying to me.

Yes, in fact my first thought was to buy another Dell monitor, and I really like the S2421HS. The only thing that stops me is that I read that in the new versions of this monitor there is no longer the low blue light option in the menu but it is set by default in the hardware. Now I don’t know if anything changes, what do you think? And do you know any of the others I mentioned? And then I wanted to ask you: do you think I will notice the difference between ccfl and led? I’m also a little afraid of this because I read that the new models of LED monitors are very bright even at zero brightness.

Thank you.

[PCM2]

Having a hardware Low Blue Light (LBL) setting doesn’t mean it won’t have a software-based option as well. They’d drop the ‘ComfortView’ setting if the monitor has the hardware shifted blue peak – the ‘always on’ LBL solution which is marketed as ‘ComfortView Plus’. But the ‘ComfortView’ setting is really poorly balanced anyway with a strong yellowish green tint. You can use an alternative LBL setting which is better balanced by simply using the ‘Warm’ preset instead.

Different models have different minimum brightness levels, I’m not sure what the minimum brightness is of the S2421HS specifically, but Dell’s S-series models usually go relatively dim.

[Actarus]

Yes, I also use warm temperature colors on my 2209WA. I recently went to reread the user guide for the s2421HS downloaded in PDF, it says the exact words: “The ComfortView functions and ComfortView Plus were designed to reduce the amount of light blue emitted by the monitor to optimize visual comfort. The mode ComfortView is optional in the OSD. Only when this mode is not present in the OSD, the factory default setting is Low Blue Light approved”.
However, if I get this monitor or any other I will always use the warm color temperature.

As far as I understand, you don’t know the other monitors on my list, because in addition to the Dell there are also the two MSI monitors that I like, especially the Pro MP243XP which is 100Hz. Obviously also the EIZO, even if it is the most expensive.

As always thanks for the replies.

[PCM2]

Indeed I don’t have a strong opinion on the other models. Though MSI has a 27″ QHD model in their Pro series (MP273QP) which I’ve received enough positive feedback about to feature as a recommendation for productivity. So perhaps smaller members of the series like the MP243XP are also quite capable and well-rounded products as well.

[Actarus]

I understand, thank you so much.

Now I just have to decide to buy the Dell s2421HS immediately, or wait a little longer (and obviously this will also depend on the 2209WA if it doesn’t end up failing completely) and look for other monitors, the best would be to see the one I’m interested in up close and turned on, but that’s unlikely to happen.

[Actarus]

Hi, sorry to bother you again.

I was thinking, since I can’t see well up close, that maybe a 24.5″ monitor is better suited for me instead of a 24″. I saw that the dot pitch is equal to my 2209WA, i.e. 0.282. But the PPI density is lower, not very much.

I don’t know, I’m a bit undecided, what do you think? Is it better to buy a 24″ FHD monitor as I was oriented from the beginning and also recommended by you, or is a 24.5″ better? Thank you.

[PCM2]

The difference in pixel density comparing 24″ to 24.5″ FHD is negligible and it’s very unlikely you’d be fine with your current pixel density (same as 24.5″ FHD) but not the very slightly tighter pixel density of a 24″ FHD model. So I wouldn’t worry about this. 🙂

[Actarus]

Ok, thank you.

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