[PCM2]

The U2515x is exactly the same monitor but includes an HDMI cable rather than a DP – MiniDP cable. This causes a great deal of confusion, I should probably update the news piece to explain this difference. 🙂

[skypdx]

That does get a bit confusing…thanks for clarifying! Now that you’ve helped me narrow the choices down to a 25″ 2560 x 1440 monitor, before i pull the trigger is it worth considering any other models?

For example would you see any advantage with the Dell UP2516D or the ASUS PB258Q or others? Or should i be considering 24″ panels? Or would you recommend just rolling with the U2515H?

Thanks again,

[PCM2]

The UP2516D is much like the UP2716D. So unless you work with the Adobe RGB colour space (for printing matching purposes, photography etc.) then it is not useful. It has weaker contrast in inferior performance in the standard sRGB colour space to the U2515H. The ASUS PB258Q is similar to the U2515H and a perfectly decent monitor, although technically has slightly less accurate gamma tracking (not a major issue for most users) and you don’t get the ‘Dell advantage’ in terms of customer service.

[Sebarpe]

Hi,
to-date, which is the best 24-inch monitor 1920*1080 or 1920*1200 for web, a little photoshop and games (strategy and adventures especially, but have an acceptable performance in Shooters) ???
I think I prefer a VA panel because of its better contrast and more real blacks, but an IPS panel with little glow…… 😉

Thanks !!!!!

[PCM2]

Refer to the recommendations section. There are no IPS panels ‘with little glow’ of this size and resolution, I’m afraid. Unless you enjoy using very low brightnesses.

[chirionutz]

Would you recommend this monitor for not causing eyestrain?

[PCM2]

This doesn’t need its own thread, there is a huge thread discussing this. I’ve merged this but your post was so brief that you didn’t mention the model number, it was only mentioned in the title. So which monitor was it you were curious about? The LG 27UD58?

[chirionutz]

Yes. LG 29UM58-P 29IN UltraWide 21:9 IPS LED Monitor. I like it better than Benq GW2760HS because of the pixel size (lower than the one of Benq, and because LG has an IPS panel).

[chirionutz]

In fact, not the 27″ one, but the 29″ LG 29UM58-P 29

[PCM2]

Ah yes, sorry. The 29UM58-P has a flicker-free backlight, a good smooth matte screen surface (not too thick or grainy) and an effective ‘Low Blue Light’ setting (Reader Mode). Plus it uses a pretty well calibrated IPS panel. So if you’re happier with that pixel density and are fine with the monitor only being as tall as a 23″ 16:9 model, then absolutely. It ticks plenty of boxes for viewing comfort.

[chirionutz]

Why do you tell that the size of LG 29″ is as tall as 23″? Can you exemplify with a link from this site: http://www.displaywars.com/29-inch-16×9-vs-23-inch-16×9 ?

[PCM2]

You made a fatal mistake – it’s a 21:9 monitor not 16:9 – http://www.displaywars.com/29-inch-21×9-vs-23-inch-16×9. See also – https://pcmonitors.info/articles/the-219-2560-x-1080-experience/.

[lapis]

So in the end, I can choose only between two monitors that were left after another colleague. He had DELL P2416D (1440p) and P2417h (1080p).
Which of those two do you think will be easier on eyes for long term use?

Both should be PWM free (in addition, P2417h has low blue light mode, but I guess that can be replaced by f.lux). Main difference seems to be resolution and also antiglare is different – P2417h has classical matte surface, while P2416D is more semi-glossy (probably because it has AHVA panel from AUO).

[PCM2]

Hi Lapis,

As noted in the review of the P2416D, the screen surface may be ‘light matte anti-glare’ but it also has a grainy surface texture. Similar if not slightly worse in that respect to the P2417H – it’s hard to separate them based on that. The P2416D also has a ‘Low Blue Light’ mode called ‘Paper’, as explored in the review.

The key consideration is pixel density – and viewing comfort therefore depends on your eyesight and the viewing distance. Either could be perfectly comfortable, but you need to ensure the pixel density works for your own eyes. That’s something I can’t answer for you I’m afraid, suffice to say the P2417H is the ‘safer’ choice in that respect.

[lapis]

PCM2, thank you for your answer.
I have read the review of P2416D and it is written quite well. Regarding to the screen surface – as I compare both monitors, I can see only that P2416D has much more reflective surface than P2417H (it works a bit like a mirror when I look from the side and see the room in it) and it feels smoother on touch, but I can’t compare image grainyness – I guess I would need a magnifying glass for that. I think IPS screens like P2417H have also relatively grainy texture, right?
Interestingely also P2416D has considerably more reddish color tint than P2417H on the same image preset (it is visible on white color, especially when using f.lux).

Is there any advantage of using Paper mode as low blue light preset instead of f.lux?

You are right, main difference will be probably the pixel density. What disadvantages can higher pixel density have, if I use scaling option in Windows 10 to enlarge the text to 150%? Text should then have similar size, it will be just smoother / less pixelated, which seems rather like a benefit.

[PCM2]

If you can’t see an obvious difference in graininess or more importantly you’re not bothered by that aspect of either, that isn’t something you need to worry about. The P2417H has a similar screen surface to other matte Full HD IPS models, yes.

Using the ‘Paper’ setting achieves similar results to F.lux but doesn’t interfere with the application of ICC profiles on top, isn’t ignored by some applications (mostly games) and generally preserves the contrast and shade variety a bit better than using F.lux. Even at 150% scaling, provided it scales ‘cleanly’, you’ll gain some benefit from the higher pixel density in terms of clarity and how much information you can fit on the screen.

[romandrt]

Hi again!

Yesturday i’v bought Samsung S24E390HL, tuned it like you’v done it here https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/samsung-s24e390hl/ and have 1 question:

“HDMI Black Level= Normal” – This option dissapeared from the monitor menu when i turned display up to 72 mhz and idk if this option working properly or may be is not working at all. Now im confused – should i stay with 72mhz or get back to 60 and be sure that this option is working (i see it and can change it).

Also i will make some photos of backlight bleed soon – think it is too bad and may be i should get it back and change on a good one.

[PCM2]

1) HDMI Black Levels are adjusted automatically for 72Hz as the monitor knows the source is not a limited range AV device.

2) It is Hz not MHz.

3) Unless you know how to capture backlight bleed in a way that accurately represents what the eye sees, don’t bother. They will be promptly deleted due to the potential to mislead others. There are enough misleading images like that floating around on the internet already.

[PCM2]

Really the three matte screen options (i.e. all you listed except the Dell S2316H) are very much equivilent for viewing comfort. They use similar panels and are all set up fairly well out of the box, complemented by flicker-free backlights with good brightness adjustment ranges. To me the Dell P2317H seems to offer the best value for money, as although performance may not be revolutionarily different to the others, it offers advantages in terms of ports and ergonomics.

The S2316H is interesting due to its low haze (essentially glossy) screen surface. As far as viewing comfort goes some users would prefer that, others would find it makes little difference and others would find it worse. Particularly if their ambient lighting can’t be kept in check. One crucial factor in all this would be your own thoughts on the S242HL. What do you like about it and what don’t you like about it.

If your uses are text-heavy then it may be worth considering a model with higher resolution as well. Perhaps the Dell U2415 or even a WQHD model. I know you may not have the budget for this now, but I think your first question may have alluded to the fact you could keep your Acer TN until you’ve saved up enough for something quite different?

[forumuser98]

need monitor 24 inch for coding .

What matters:
eye comfort even after long hour of usage
text should be clear and not cause eye strains

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