[Fermin]

Reading the post of drtim I have a new doubt because I saw the BL2700HT model with adjustable stand and almost similar characteristics with the EW2750ZL.
So between the BL2700HT and EW2750ZL what do you think is the best for eye care? (Maybe the EW because is a newer model?)

[drtim]

… and further, if one is considering a triple monitor setup, which is best – 24 inch, 27 inch, or 32 inch?

[PCM2]

@ drtim

The 32″ WQHD models offer the same pixel density as a 24″ Full HD model. So I actually feel, purely in terms of viewing comfort without reading glasses, the 27″ Full HD models would have an edge. Of course the advantage to the larger screen and resolution is the ability to display more content at the same time. As far as a triple screen setup goes, it’s partly down to your desk space and personal size preferences. And also whether your GPU actually supports 3 x WQHD screens and also how your system would cope in general. I’d suggest that 3 x 27″ Full HD models would offer a nice balance between easy readability, good viewing comfort and a good amount of useful screen space (horizontally, at least).

@ Fermin

As I said to drtim earlier, I wouldn’t hesitate to go for the BL2700HT over the EW2750ZL if you’re primarily interested in viewing comfort and also want a nice adjustable stand. The newer panel will not offer any viewing comfort advantages. Slightly enhanced colour gamut and viewing angles, but text rendition and other characteristics linked to viewing comfort are identical.

[joms]

Sorry to hijack t his thread but do you know if the Benq BL3201PH is also a good candidate for monitors that are easy on the eyes? I am a video hobbyist who wants a monitor with accurate colors and would use it mostly for editing, office work and surfing. I really want a monitor good for the eyes as my eyes are deteriorating due to my constant exposure to my computer monitor (8hrs/day).

Also, are IPS good for the eyes? Ive read that VA is king in terms of eye health but IPS is king for video editing.

BL3201PH = IPS monitor
BL3201PT = VA monitor

Which should i get?

Thanks.

[PCM2]

Don’t feel your hijacking the thread, that’s exactly why it’s here. 🙂

The BenQ BL3201PT/PH is one monitor, it just has a different designation in different countries. It has an AHVA panel, which as covered in the review is an IPS-type panel. It has nothing to do with ‘Vertical Alignment’. As I’ve said more recently in this thread, I really wouldn’t get too hung up over VA vs. IPS as far as viewing comfort goes. Whilst the bolder and darker text of VA can be ‘nice’, there is actually a school of thought that decreased contrast can improve viewing comfort as well as the monitor spends less time accomodating for changes in light. This assumes the lighting conditions in the room are controlled as well, because obviously fluctuations there could be more extreme than differences on the monitor itself.

The BenQ is featured as a strong recommendation and it’s certainly good for viewing comfort if you have good eyesight or are willing to use some scaling if required. For your uses I think it would be ideal really. The screen surface is lovely and smooth, text is crisp and the LBL settings work very well and the backlight can go very dim without any flickering. It ticks lots of ‘viewing comfort’ boxes really.

I should also note that it isn’t a model I am recommending to drtim because he wants to be able to use the screen without reading glasses and for that you’d need to use heavy scaling on the model. As I did say to him, though, it might be that users in his position start out with high levels of scaling and then work there way to lower levels of scaling. It is possible to adapt to reading smaller and smaller text from a given viewing distance, to an extent, but it will take a lot of time and effort. And probably induce some visual discomfort in the process.

[joms]

Oh so the BL3201PT/PH is really an AVHA panel and not and IPS panel. Thanks for the clarification. 🙂

On this note though, do you have any news about the upcoming BenQ PV3200PT? I am having second thoughts in getting the 3201PT/PH since its a bit old (released 2014). Should i wait for the PV3200PT?

I live in the Philippines and i will be buying the monitor in the USA and my friend will ship it to me seafrieght (5weeks travel time). It is this reason that i really want to get the perfect monitor as i will be using it for a long time.

Thanks again for the help!

[PCM2]

AHVA is for all intents and purposes IPS (hence IPS-type). Regarding the PV3200PT, if by news you mean release date, no. It certainly seems to have even more stringent factory calibration than the BL3200PT/PH and also has a hardware-addressable LUT which is good if you have a compatible colorimeter. The panel itself is likely the same as that used on the BL3200PT/PH or a similar variant of it.

[drtim]

The more I look at it, the more I am not too sure. I would like the flexibility of having a triple monitor setup using a GeForce GTX 970 or 980 or 980 Ti. Each of these graphics cards have 3 DP 1.2 connectors. From my reading DP 1.2 seems to have some advantages over other connectors. Thus, on reflection of my earlier post (reply #37674), it now appears that I might choose the Dell U2715H (the BL2700HT has limited inputs, and does not offer DP) due to it having every quality I want other than being VA. Could I connect 3 Dell U2715H monitors to any of the listed graphics cards? I am not sure that what I am looking for is available in VA, and you did say in an earlier post that “I can’t give you any decent reason not to go for the BenQ over some newer alternatives like the Dell U2715H for your uses”. Am I on the right track, or did I get side-stepped and end up confusing myself? I am not sure I understand what you are saying about scaling, but I think you have said as far as trying to read without glasses it would be easier to have the greater scaling available with a 27 inch full HD VA monitor. However, I also want the ability of having a triple monitor setup for productivity and eye health. Thanks.

[PCM2]

There is no advantage to using DP 1.2 on a 60Hz monitor with Full HD or indeed WQHD resolution. The advantages come in its ability to support higher bandwidths for increased refresh rates and even higher resolutons such as UHD (3840 x 2160). So that shouldn’t be a deciding factor.

I was actually saying that I couldn’t give you a good reason not to go for the BenQ BL2710PT over the U2715H for your uses, except you then introduced the idea of a triple monitor setup where the thinner bezels of the U2715H would be advantageous.

I certainly don’t think getting 3 x U2715Hs would be a bad choice for your uses. I don’t necessarily think you’d make full use out of them, though. That’s simply because I am not really sure how much you’ll get out of the WQHD resolution if you wish to view without your reading glasses and more importantly whether the level of scaling you’d want to use will give you any real-estate advantage over native Full HD. But it really is an individual thing – and as I said just in my previous post you might find you can use lower and lower levels of scaling as you adapt to the screen. So in terms of flexibility and the ability to decrease scaling a little if/as you feel comfortable with it, the Dell is good. And yes, you could connect three of them up to that sort of GPU no problem. 2 x DP and 1 x HDMI 1.4 for example. Alternatively you can even ‘Daisy-chain’ them together which is what the ‘DP out’ on the U2715H is for. So you connect some of the monitors to each other rather than to the ports on the GPU.

[Fermin]

PCM2 sorry for asking the same again but I’m going to buy the Benq BL2700HT or the EW2750ZL.
The EW is 10€ more. You said that for eye comfort there are no differences between the 2 panels but for 10€ maybe is better to choose the EW270ZL because of the new panel?

Thanks

[Fermin]

I talked with the distributor here in my country and he said that they have this monitor out of stock EW2750ZL and it is discontinued, do you know if they will launch a new model soon? or maybe it have some problems?

(I still can buy it from one online reseller, only 2 in stock)

[PCM2]

The EW2755ZL is coming to some countries, but I can’t help with that as it isn’t launching in the UK and I think it will mainly be restricted to Asia. There was supposed to be a new EW2775ZH coming in Q4 2015 for Europe and perhaps North America but that seems to have slipped back. As I’ve said, though, if you if you really want the adjustable stand then I’d really recommend going for the BL2700HT. For your uses I’m sure you’ll find it a nice monitor and you’d be happier with the stand.

[Umbral]

Looking for a 21.5, 23.8 or 24 monitor for office work 8-10 hours a day without PWM and maybe with low blue light what do you recommend ?

TN is out of the question. Would the IPS glow or the VA shift give more headaches or be more inconvenient ?

And what would be the difference between EW2440L & EW2445ZH ?
Currently only EW2440L is available for purchase here in Europe.

Is EW2440L or GW2470H newer ? It might have the newer EW2445 panel.

Thank you.

[Umbral]

Some said they had problems with GW2470H with color and motion lag, since it uses a 23.8″ panel is definitely different than EW2440L that had a 24″ size.

Are you sure the GW2470H is not inolux panel too ?

[PCM2]

The GW2470H uses an AUO AMVA+ panel as specifically identified in our news piece on this model. I’d also advise referring on our news piece on the EW2440L as it answers your other question. No comment on the EW2445, it’s not a European model nor North American and not one I have experience with nor can comment on.

There can be a number of reasons why people are reporting ‘issues’ with the GW2470H, amongst which could be the incorrect colour signal being used. The user feedback I’ve received suggests it’s much like a smaller version of the EW2750ZL when correctly set up. However; it has slightly worse pixel responsiveness in general and also tends to have a worse default colour setup, requiring more tweaking of the colour channels. It should be put into ‘Gamma 1’ as the default ‘Gamma 3’ has gamma that is far too high – although from experience with other VA models, this can vary between units and revisions of the same model.

The whole ‘VA or IPS’ thing has been asked and answered several times on this thread and elsewhere on the forum. To reiterate, it really comes down to personal preference. Few users will find either to be visually ‘uncomfortable’ but find an otherwise equivalent model of the other panel type ‘comfortable’. It could be argued that the fact the cheap VA models are ‘true 8-bit’ whereas the IPS-type alternatives use dithering could be a visual comfort advantage as well.

[Umbral]

It is going to be a GW2270H. I didn’t chose it but it is better than the alternative TN since the user had problems with PWM after changing from CCFL to the TN LED. So this VA will be a much better replacement.

I have some questions. Do you connect it via HDMI or VGA ? Or are they both the same in terms of quality ? Some said to put monitors in full RBG, since some are not by default in that state ?

The only English semi review i found said something like this :

” Elsewhere, this monitor is also a little off the mark with its normal colour profile. Colour temperature is measured at 5,436K, which is some way off the ideal of 6,500K, and a gamma of 3.04 is also far from the 2.2 ideal.

However, these are all easy to tweak by choosing the manual colour setting, changing the gamma to 2 and reducing the brightness to between 150-200 nits (about 50% on the OSD scale).

Following full setup and calibration, this monitor generally puts in a good performance. At 152 nits brightness, it measured a black level of 0.0457 nits, contrast ratio of 3,322:1, colour temperature is 6,550K, gamma is 2.69 and sRGB colour space coverage is 90.6%.”

I wouldn’t say that is good.

Now ignoring this, but assuming the variation is not huge between one unit and another, what would you say would be the optimal settings to make it closer to 6500k and 2.2 gamma.

You said something about putting it in gamma 1 for start like the https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-ew2750zl/.

In the review above they start with 3.04 gamma and with gamma set to 2 they reach 2.67.

So again putting it in gamma 1 like you said would make it closer to 2.2 but what would happen with the colors ?

If you happen to know anyone who reviewed this and can give some hints tell me please.

Picture Mode= Standard (or User)
Brightness= 50 (according to preferences and lighting)
Gamma= 1
Color Temperature= User Define
R= 100
G= 100
B= 95
AMA= High
HDMI RGB PC Range= RGB(0 ~255). Refer to ‘Correcting the colour signal’ above

Would VGA always give full RGB range ?
The monitor comes with (D-sub / HDMIx2)

Have a great day.

[toddreg]

Anyone have setting recommendations to tweak the BenQ GW2470H?

[PCM2]

@ toddreg, refer to my previous post on this thread.

@ umbral

HDMI is fine to use with modern Nvidia or AMD drivers, the correction for the colour signal is simple. Unlike the use of an analog signal like VGA, which introduces uncorrectable noise. As per my previous reply, each individual units are different. Trying to chase after recommended colour channel adjustments on models like this is futile as they do show significant inter-unit variation. Some are much cooler and some much warmer than the 6500K target white point – there is much more dramatic differences observed here than for IPS-type panels, for whatever reason. And I’ve also mentioned already that gamma handling can vary between individual units of these models and different revisions. Let alone completely different models! So you’re going to have to judge this for yourself I’m afraid. It is possible but not guaranteed that ‘Gamma1’ would be closer to ‘2.2’ on the 21.5″ model but don’t obsess about this too much. If you read the EW2750ZL review or any of our other reviews of recent VA models you’ll see that chasing a specific central gamma target is quite misguided for general usage, particularly on models where the gamma shifts at different points of the screen.

[Umbral]

Thank you PCM2.

[toddreg]

Can you point me to the page it is on, there are 439 posts in this thread.
Thanks for the reponse

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