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- September 11, 2014 at 6:53 am #32842PCM2
As is noted earlier in this thread not everyone actually finds VA panels easier on the eyes for reading text. I do personally like the bold inky blacks and find them comfortable, but the pixel alignment gives this very slight ‘3D’ effect’ for high contrast situations (like black text on a white background) which some users don’t like. It’s very subtle and I don’t really notice it much myself – in fact if anything I quite like it.
Having said that the Iiyama and EW2440L would be the ones I’d focus on as they have newer panels.
September 11, 2014 at 7:26 am #32844asymptoteIt’s too sad this new model of BenQ monitor is neither VESA compliant nor does it have height adjustment feature which is quite important for me.
My aim of use requires splitting of the screen into three. So, actually, I have a tendency to consider one 29″ monitor with a 21:9 aspect ratio rather than two 24″ monitors with 16:9 aspect ratios. There are such monitors from LG and ASUS, but neither of them have VA panels. Samsung has announced a new model with VA panel but it is unfortunately too big -34″ – and curved.September 11, 2014 at 1:29 pm #32848asymptoteI have decided to buy Dell U2913WM, it seems to suit my needs well. I hope I’ll not regret that.
September 11, 2014 at 2:15 pm #32850PCM2I don’t think you will regret it. As I said some find IPS more comfortable on the eyes anyway. And it sounds like 21:9 is much better for your uses.
September 11, 2014 at 4:59 pm #32851asymptoteI have changed my mind. There are billions of threads floating out there on the web, trying in vain to find out a solution to power saving mode problems with Dell monitors.. 🙂
I am open to any suggestions regarding ultra wide monitors with less eye fatigue and clear text display by the way.September 11, 2014 at 6:27 pm #32852PCM2Most of the ultrawide models offer decent performance. I can personally recommend the AOC q2963pm which I feel offers the best value overall.
September 11, 2014 at 8:32 pm #32853asymptoteAOC Q2963PM has been bought. Thank you very much indeed for your help. I appreciate what is shared in this forum, not easy to find anywhere else on the net.
September 13, 2014 at 11:32 pm #32861UmbralWaiting for the new panel : AMVA+ M270HVN02.3 (1920 x 1080)
https://pcmonitors.info/others/144hz-ips-ahva-panels-en-route-from-au-optronics/Very interested in what could it bring new to the current generation of VA.
Maybe super slim bezels, 144hz, and wide gamut, along with even better viewing angle ?“Other panels that have only just surfaced include a slew of other new 27” AHVA panels with 60Hz refresh rates, 350 cd/m² rated luminance and 2560 x 1440 resolutions. The M270DAN02.2 and M270DAN02.5 feature standard colour gamuts (~sRGB) and should enter production by the end of September. ”
Here : http://www.benq.us/product/monitor/GW2765HT
What was BenQ old site (URL) where they showed the newer models first ?
September 14, 2014 at 8:42 am #32864PCM2I too look forward to seeing what they come up with in the 27″ VA sector. The GW2765HT doesn’t use one of the new panels, it has been available for a few months already and the panels aren’t even in full-scale production yet. BenQ offered me one for review but I had to decline due to other commitments and reviews.
I’m not sure what the address is for their website that lists the models in ascending order of release date. Or even if it is available any more?
September 14, 2014 at 1:00 pm #32865UmbralOne of the users on this forum said a while ago that BenQ still updates their old site before they release a product and there you can find all devices first, sometimes before they are even announced.
Do you know the old BenQ site ?
September 14, 2014 at 1:25 pm #32866PCM2I know what you’re referring to but I can’t remember the address. And I’m not sure if that ‘legacy’ website is still operational. 🙁
September 15, 2014 at 8:44 pm #32885kashHi PCM2,
Thanks, feeling a little better, though still recovering from major heart surgery , hence, I would have replied sooner, but was unable too.
Anyway, yes the viewing experience with the BenQ XL2420Z is very good. I hope everything below makes sense, if not, I will have to put it down to the strong painkillers I have to take, gives one a fuzzy head
The Monitor also comes with a specially designed S Switch for swift control and navigation which is very useful to have.(taken from the BenQ website)
The XL2420Z comes with a stylish S Switch. This distinct remote controller comes with three preset buttons so you’re able to customize and save your display settings for gaming, work or entertainment purposes. Use the scroll button on the S Switch to quickly navigate and change the OSD settings. It eliminates the tedious process of adjusting your monitor settings. Now switching seamlessly between the presets is as easy as 1-2-3.Once installed on the PC and the Display Pilot software is opened, you get the following main tabs:
1: Display
2: Colour
3: Audio
4: Ergonomics
5: Eco
6: Tools
7: System
8: Wizard ModeWithin Display, you have options to decide the following:
A: Input Source (IS):- VGA, DVI, HDMI 1, HDMI 2 DisplayPort. Following testing of the difference with options within the other tabs, I decided to settle for DVI. I found the quality of this setting was much better in terms of viewing quality, cleaner picture then the other IS.B: You also have Auto Pivot. This allows the picture to turn 90, 180, 270 degrees automatically if you turn the screen. I’ve left mine on horizontal viewing i.e. 0 degrees.
C: You also have Advanced Options. Under this, you have:
*Display Mode: 1:1, Full Screen, Aspect. I tried all 3 and found the Full Screen works better for me. Though some may prefer the other settings when gaming.
*DP (Desktop Partition) Auto Switch. Tried it, it was pretty ok but for the moment I have not enabled this. Gamers will probably find this useful though.
*HDMI Auto Switch, tried this. It was fine, so may come back to this another time. For the time being I have not enabled this. Also under this one, you have
-HDMI RGB PC Range: option for RGB 0-255, and RGB 16-235
-Colour Format: Option for RGB and YUV
– Overscan: HDMI, DP, D-Sub, VGA converted from componentsI’ve not had the chance to play around with the HDMI Auto Switch and respective options, yet. However, as soon as I do, I’ll post some details about how I’ve got on with it.
Within Colour, you have options to decide the following
A: Picture Mode: sRGB, CAD/CAM, Presentation, Standard, Movie, Photo, Reading, Eco, M-book.
Each has a pre-set Brightness and Contrast Level, though this can be changed manually for whichever option is chosen. I tried them all and changed the Brightness and Contrast levels to test each Picture Mode. I actually found the Standard Picture mode worked best for me. I had to tone down the Brightness and Contrast levels though from approx 90ish (from what I remember) to 44. This has benefitted me enormously.
Note: The Brightness and Contrast levels adjustments cannot be mad if Eco or DynamicContrast is electedB: You also have Colour Temperature:
-Sharpness, which I’ve set to 5 (out of 10). Tested the sharpness from 1 – 10, 5 works best for me
-Gamma, which I’ve set to 3 (out of 5). Tested the Gamma from 1 – 5, 3 works best for me (You can select the Gamma levels only when Standard Picture Mode is selected.C: You also have Advanced which has:
-DynamicContrast option and is available when Movie or Photo is selected. I have set this to Off. Though the Contrast level was very good imo, the Standard Picture Mode just pips it for me.
-Seneye Demo and is available when Movie, Photo or M-book is selected. I have not enabled this option.When I get a chance, I will play around some more with the advanced settings here, but for the time being I don’t require them. Though for
D: There is also Colour Calibration, but I’ve not needed to use this yet.
Within Audio:
A: you have a Volume bar and Mute tabB: Advanced settings:
-Audio Select: PC Audio and Auto Detect.I’ve not done anything in this tab. All left unchecked.
Within Ergonomics you have:
A: Eye Protect. Which is available when Standard Picture Mode is selected. I’ve enabled this.
B: Eye Protect Meter. I’ve enabled this as well.C: You also have Advanced Options:
-Smart Reminder. Not enabled this. Though if you do, then you have the following options:
Time Interval (Min), 20, 40, 60, 80, 100 minutes
Duration (Sec), 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 secondsWithin Eco, you have:
A: ECO Sensor which can be enabled if desired. I’ve left this unchecked.
Eco Sensor enables Lower Energy consumption (allowing some energy cost savings). Basically, as an example, office workers spend about x% of their working time away from their computers, and in most cases don’t turn them off (who does ). Anyway, this feature automatically switches the monitor to EcoMode when the User is away from their PC and switches back to normal mode when the User returns.Within Tools, you have:
A: Game Mode Loader. This is where you can upload the game mode to store in the monitor.
Basically, Game Mode Loader is the preset Game Modes created by Pro gamers (I believe). So once you enable the Game Modes you can see, feel and experience games like the Pro Gamers. Gamers will/should like this a lot as the experience of gaming is enhanced with these game loaders. I’ve not set anything up on this yet as I’ve not had the chance to.I’ve looked through this but have not configured any
B: Application Tuning. Allows you to choose the Picture Mode setting for each application used (e.g. browsers, MS Applications- Outlook, Word, Excel etc). I’ve not had to tune any applications to date.
C: Desktop Partition, Allows you to choose the partition you desire for your monitor. I’ve set mine to full screen, but there are 9 options (in total incl full screen) you can choose from. Gamers would really like this feature.There is also an Advanced Option where you can adjust/customise the partition to you’re desired size.
D: Extended Toolbar. I’ve enabled this. You can choose options from the following:
-Show icons only
-Show icons and names
-Show local open windows
-Show all open windows.I opted for the second and third options
You also have Extended Taskbar Position: Top, Bottom, Left, Right. I’ve not chosen any. Icons on my system automatically appear on the bottom left.
E: Preferences. You have:
-Run at system start-up
-always on top
-Enable context menu on desktop
-shortcut on desktop
-Enable application tuning
-Enable desktop partitionAll enabled.
You also have Transparency.: Off, Low, High. Tried the Low and High. I didn’t like it, so set it to Off.
F: Presets. This allows you to name and save any Brightness and Contrast Level customisation you’ve configured (like I did with the Picture Mode i.e. Standard and Brightness and Contrast levels to 44). You can have as many presents as you like, and can make it a default setting.
Within System: this provides information such as Manufacturer, Timing recommendation and installed drivers and much more.
You also have an Options tab, within this, you have
-Auto Power off setting: Off, 10 Mins, 20 mins, 30mins. Set mine to Off.
-Resolution: I’ve enabled this. This will allow me to change the resolution when I want.
-Optimum Resolution. Mine is set for optimum resolution. You may get a message stating that the current resolution is not the optimal and can cause distortions on screen etc. If you get this, then just click on the Optimum Resolution button, this will fix it.AMA (Advanced Motion Accelerator) setting: you have Off, High, Premium. I’ve set mine to High.
Wizard Mode, This lets you choose the resolution, Picture mode, brightness, contrast, preset, and save the selections you’ve made. I didn’t need to use the Wizard as I preferred to configure things manually so that I could test the settings as I made them.
September 15, 2014 at 9:44 pm #32887PCM2Thanks for the detailed feedback on DisplayPilot and the settings you’ve used. Since we didn’t cover that in the review (we don’t generally cover software) it is a great addition to have here! 🙂
I’m pleased you’re still finding the monitor comfortable on the eyes after just a few little tweaks as well. I find it interesting that some of the presets available in DisplayPilot include “Reading” and “CAD/CAM” as seen on some of their recent BL series monitors, for example. Are these same settings available in the OSD itself when DisplayPilot isn’t used?
September 15, 2014 at 11:33 pm #32890fpcHi,
I need a monitor for programming so I’ll use it for a long time in day. My main concerns are my eyes and the performance. I’ve done some research and I’m between Dell P2414H and U2414H. Do you suggest these models? Which model should I go for? Is the U worth extra money?
I appreciate any comment or other suggestions.
Thank you.
September 16, 2014 at 8:00 am #32892PCM2Those models are both very similar in their viewing comfort characteristics and for programming I wouldn’t suggest paying more for the U2414H. It depends how much more it costs, though. If you like to use really low brightnesses then the U2414H gives a bit more flexibility (goes down to below 40 cd/m2 without losing contrast vs. just above 60 cd/m2 for the P2414H.
For programming I’d highly recommend considering a model like the BenQ BL2411PT due to its increased vertical resolution.
September 16, 2014 at 10:40 am #32893fpcU2414H costs $70-$80 more. If it is really worth, can be paid. But if not, why spend money on something you don’t need.
As for the BenQ BL2411PT, it is not sold in my country. There is U2412M for that vertical resolution. $80 more expensive than P2414H and $10 than U2414H.
September 16, 2014 at 12:52 pm #32894PCM2Given those prices the P2414H would definitely make the most sense!
September 17, 2014 at 12:26 am #32896fpcThank you. I’ll go for P2414H.
September 18, 2014 at 1:07 am #32911knightoneHi, I am also considering Dell P2414H or U2414H or even the S2414H but I am still unsure if glossy will be a pain or not. I need a monitor for many hours of desktop use. My concerns are the coatings/clarity.
I’ve used a Benq GW2760GS for a week now which is supposedly “semi-glossy” and am curious as to how the U2414H AG screen performs comparatively (besides effects of different dot pitch) to the Benq. I’m not overly impressed with the Benq tbh, certainly not bad as far as a modern monitor and perhaps I am more sensitive than other people, but I feel like there’s still an annoying hazy-effect (smudgy?) especially visible over large blocks of one-colour spaces (lighter colours, whites, grey). On this forum for instance.
Would the P/U2414H provide about the same or a clearer picture? I would like a 24″ (or 27″ 1440p) monitor that looks as clear as possible so any other recommendations would be helpful too 🙂 The glossy S2414H might not even be out yet? I read somewhere it will have a different coating over its predecessor.
Thanks for feedback, great forum!
September 18, 2014 at 9:41 am #32912PCM2Hi knightone,
The GW2760HS (I assume, rather than GS?) uses a lighter screen surface than the U/P2414H. The picture should therefore be clearer and less grainy, not the other way around. Neither surface has quite the same ‘smooth’ look as some even lighter surfaces, particularly glossy ones.
All the information you need on the S2415H (not 14H) can be found on our website. The screen surface is glossy with an anti-reflective treatment. It basically means it is a fully glossy monitor but isn’t quite as reflective as glass-fronted screens or some other glossy models. It’s very much glossy, though and you have to regulate your room lighting more carefully than with matte surfaces. We’re currently reviewing it as well, it may be worth waiting for if you’re sensitive to matte screen surfaces.
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