[fun145]

Hi PCM2,
by trying to figure out how to response, i think i found a way for me to follow. Thanks once again for all your work you do, you are doing a great job, and even thank you for all the paitence you have with me and all the help you provided.
Finally, I will update you with my experience when the right time comes in the future.
Best regards and have a nice rest of weekend.
fun145

[sunnymo]

hi, harryvok, I have the same feeling about HDR on monitor just like you, I’m completely a console gamer, and I did a lot of research on the internet and finally got CG32UQ. As Adam said CG32UQ in the review, it still keeps a little more saturation on HDR, but the color is still much colorless than TV or SDR of the monitor. When HDR is enabled, color adjustment is not allowed, this is the case only for monitors, but TVs can do, I don’t know the tech detail about how HDR is implemented, but this is the truth. it’s more considerable as ‘washed-out’ if you switch your display from TV to monitor. I would like to get a TV but there is no better TV around 32-inch size, they are targeting 55-inch and above. So there are only a few choices on monitors, HDR600’s monitor is a balance to achieve a better gaming experience.

[PCM2]

The issue harryvok is referring to is very different to the reduced saturation you’re observing on the CG32UQ. Which, as you know, is intentional. It is simply that shades are mapped more appropriately and accurately to the wide gamut, so you gain a more realistic and less saturated look to many shades. There are vibrant shades in the mix and the backlight works as intended.

On the 436M6VBPAB the black depth and any semblance of depth to any shade really is completely destroyed when using HDMI. Undersaturation is also extreme. It clearly looks completely different (and as it should) when using DisplayPort, whereas on the ASUS that doesn’t make a difference as it behaves appropriately via both HDMI and DP.

[mario]

With how many lumens it is considered that the room is well lit for a monitor? And what type of light is more advisable cold or neutral?

[PCM2]

There are no hard and fast rules in either respect. I’d define ‘well lit’ as viewing with plenty of natural daylight or with the monitor lit up to similar levels using artificial lighting. If you’ve got a colorimeter such as a Spyder Pro or Elite series it will give you a nice broad indication of whether your room is bright, moderately bright, dim etc.

I personally view the monitor in dimmer conditions than that in the evening, because I don’t like bright artificial lighting in the evenings. And warm lighting is preferred because blue light is good to avoid in the evenings for reasons covered in our reviews. Because of my own preferences for viewing (in the evenings), I find bias lighting such as that integrated into the CG32UQ useful.

[sunnymo]

hi Adam, as the last time I said, CG32UQ‘s flickering issue on HDR has been confirmed by many customers and ASUS tech support. To summarize, it flickers more frequently on HDMI than DP, it’s about 3 – 5min on HDMI and about 30min on DP, but not always behave like that. I received two comments in the video i posted on Youtube from who bought this monitor, said they have the same problem as mine, and so do another customer from Taiwan. So this is a broader issue with early units. I have reported to ASUS, they are testing it and will have feedback in January. Happy Holidays…

[PCM2]

Thanks for confirming. I passed on your comments and observations to ASUS HQ (via my contact) earlier in the month, so they’re definitely aware of it.

[Wadethegreat01]

Hello, I’m looking for a good moderately priced 31.5″ 4k monitor with freesync and her to play my PS4 pro and Xbox one X. I’m sure there are better options but I’m wanting to choose between the Asus CG32UQ, BenQ EW3270U and LG 32UD99-W. I’m honestly leaning towards the Asus but would like a second opinion. The LG I’ve read has bleeding issues, as well as common ips glow and the BenQ I’ve heard good things. I just haven’t heard a whole lot about the Asus but definitely like you’re in-depth review. Could you give me some input on these 3 inputs. Also would you throw the Viewsonic xg3220 in the mix? Thanks

[PCM2]

Hi Wadethegreat01,

I’ve merged your thread with a suitable existing topic.

The ViewSonic XG3220, BenQ EW3270U and ASUS CG32UQ all use the same CELL (panel, minus backlight). But the ASUS offers by far the most dynamic and convincing HDR performance as it’s the only that gives any contrast advantage under HDR. It offers local dimming and VESA DisplayHDR 600 support. A user here (sunnymo) has been having some flickering issues, but has otherwise been enjoying the monitor. I noticed these occasionally in certain circumstances on the PC, using DisplayPort, but it seems more common when using HDMI with games consoles. It’s not something that will bother everyone and all of these models have their own issues.

As for the LG 32UD99, it’s much weaker in terms of contrast and offers unconvincing HDR. But it has some advantages in terms of colour consistency and pixel responsiveness. It depends where your preferences lie, but I’ve also had users report common uniformity issues and issues with obvious ‘static interlacing patterns’ with that model. It’s not a model I’d generally recommend, especially not for your uses.

[diziet]

I found myself too impatient to wait for the CG32UQ to finally show up on Amazon in the UK and ordered an ET322QK C (the DisplayHDR 600 variant) to test. It seems alright, thus far, though I’m not overly convinced by the HDR performance. My issues with the monitor thus far, in comparison to your review of the CG32UQ in no particular order are:

– One less HDMI port.
– Speakers are I think nowhere near as good judging by the specs and your CG32UQ review.
– Every corner has a 2″ or so “spotlight” pointing towards the middle of the screen. This is visible on any darker background regardless of mode the monitor is in.
– Watching a 4K blu ray on the XBox leads to bright spots at the top edges of the screen where the black letterbox is. These appear to flicker and is quite distracting despite the monitor being flicker free. I was watching Bladerunner 2049.
– It’s hard to spot the difference in details in HDR compared to the monitor in SDR mode, or my LG 27UD68P. They are there though, a few more colours present in flames/clouds in AC Origins for example.
– The HDR local dimming doesn’t seem pronounced, though if I set a black desktop background and move the mouse around I can clearly see the zones activating. 16 Horizontal zones, 8 left, 8 right though due to the corners seemingly permanently being active the corner zones never really switch off.

I know you posted a news article on the ET322QKC but I’m guessing you’ve not used one in person, still given my descriptions above does any of that tally with your experience of the CG32UQ? I’m tempted to return it and wait patiently for it or the Philips 328M1R.

I could try and capture an image to show the “spotlights” or upload a youtube video showing them permanently lit whilst local dimming is active?

[PCM2]

The Acer ET322QK C does indeed use the same panel (this includes backlighting solution) as the ASUS CG32UQ. I can’t speak for the intricacies that would exist beyond that, including the HDR implementation itself. But the backlight behaviour as you’re describing sounds similar to the ASUS. The local dimming is sufficient to give an edge in contrast over what you’d get with similar peak luminance levels and global dimming. The edge in contrast is not profound. This is covered in the review, as is the ‘spotlighting’ effect as I call it, which you mentioned. And that is specifically shown in the video review.

The monitor is all about providing good bright scene HDR performance and the local dimming certainly works well there, to help somewhat dimmer elements remains dimmer than they otherwise would. It certainly doesn’t afford a deep and atmospheric look or work well with predominantly dark content- note the praise I gave in the ASUS review with respect to the ambient lighting feature as well, which aids perceived contrast. And draws your eyes away from any ‘spotlighting’ and suchlike. Even then things weren’t exactly super atmopsheric in dark scenes.

[diziet]

Awesome thank you for the information. I had no frame of referencing seeing as this is my first HDR experience, as you note it is covered in the review, and I’ve watched the video review and read the text one many times over the last month as well as the 32″ Philips one. 😀

This is useful stuff as it helps manage my expectations. I guess for me then is to decide how much the extra features of the CG32UQ are worth in terms of £’s when the HDR experience itself may be very similar. I think I’d appreciate the additional HDMI for sure as it I only have room for two monitors and only one would be HDR which I’d like to connect a PC, Xbox, PS4 and Apple TV to. The speakers, ambient lighting and remote control would all be appreciated by me, so I just need to weigh up whether or not they’d be worth the extra £300 plus the CG32UQ looks like it’ll cost.

I managed to get a full screen black local dimming test working with a full screen instance of edge and the corner lights do indeed turn off, something on the windows desktop like the remnants of the task bar even hidden must have kept them lit. Not sure why the top ones didn’t turn off though.

Still mostly a thumbs up for Acer ET322QK C from me. So many reviews made me think I wouldn’t get on with a VA panel having come from IPS, they’re actually pretty damn good!

[PCM2]

So many reviews made me think I wouldn’t get on with a VA panel having come from IPS, they’re actually pretty damn good!

Indeed – and this reminds me of some recent posts I made in another thread. VA models are too readily dismissed by many and too many users are scared to even try them. They deliver a unique experience and if you find the negative aspects acceptable then there are some real advantages left to enjoy.

I appreciate your donation, by the way – thanks for that! 🙂

[diziet]

You’re welcome, I’ve re and re-read the reviews so many times over the last month my donation might not cover the bandwidth costs! 😛

[Wadethegreat01]

Thank you for your advice! I actually would like to ask your opinion on whether the Asus CG32UQ would be best or the LG 32ul950-w. It seems by specs and reviews, they are pretty close in comparison other than ips and va displays and color bit. What ever you think would be best between these 2 will be my final decision. Thanks 😁.

[PCM2]

I’ll spare you the intricacies of the apples to oranges comparison – as you’re aware, very different colour characteristics. The contrast performance is also on a different level, with the CG32UQ having a huge advantage in that respect. The local dimming capabilities of the 32UL950 are far too limited to deliver appropriate HDR contrast for the panel type used. Where bright elements are displayed, darker elements are lifted up far too much and things just look washed out and far from atmospheric. I’ve made plenty of comments on the ASUS review about the ‘dark atmosphere’ being less than ideal under HDR and it’s more the bright and mixed scene performance that’s impressive. Well compared to the LG, the darker elements under HDR are displayed with much better depth on the ASUS. Also, the LG lacks a flicker-free backlight and uses 240Hz PWM. I feel that’s unacceptable for a modern monitor.

[hiphipjorge]

Hello everyone. Sorry if this topic has been discussed before but I can’t find anything relating. I can’t afford a high end gaming pc so I game on my Xbox or ps4. In looking to play on a monitor soon and not my 65inch tv. I know the ps4 and XBox one x are only able to output 60fps so a 60hz monitor will work just fine. But with rumors of the PS5 and next XBox console going to 120fps I want to future proof my monitor. I’ve read conflicting things online that HDMI 1.4 can not display 1080p and 120hz. Then I read somewhere else that it can. What’s the real story? Can a monitor with an HDMI 1.4 port display 1080p at 120hz? Thanks in advance.

[PCM2]

HDMI 1.4 supports 1920 x 1080 @ 120Hz (and a bit beyond), there are plenty of examples of monitors we’ve reviewed which offer this. (XG240R, 24G2U and C24G1 for example).

[omer.sak]

Hey guys, quick question regarding the Philips 436M6VBPAB – would it be possible to mitigate the HDMI/HDR issues if I connect my console to it via an HDMI to DP cable? Thanks.

[PCM2]

The simple answer to that is that I don’t know, but I doubt it would work. You’d need an active adaptor to convert an HDMI to DisplayPort signal and in doing so pretty sure you wouldn’t retain the full 3840 x 2160 @60Hz with HDR capability. You’d just get a 3840 x 2160 @30Hz SDR signal most likely.

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