[billyknapp]

On Battlefield 1 (BF1) the monitor provided a decent 60Hz performance overall. There was a moderate degree of perceived blur, particularly noticeable when moving your character relatively quickly such as performing snappy mouse movements. This was caused predominantly by eye movement – so, in other words, linked to the 60Hz refresh rate and something that would apply to even the fastest 60Hz LCDs

This is what worries me. Could this be resolved by disabling motion blur in Battlefield V settings?

[PCM2]

No! Motion blur settings in a game are just filters which add blur. They can never remove it from the base level, which is related primarily to eye movement and linked to refresh rate. As described in the review.

And yes, motion blur as a game option is always disabled where possible during our testing. I hate the setting, especially on high refresh rate monitors.

[billyknapp]

Hello.

I took your advice and I bought the Dell S2419H. The only problem I encountered so far it’s the fuzzy quality of YouTube videos. Even if I play them at 1080p, they still look fuzzy and grainy. Netflix movies look great, tho.

Thank you again.

[PCM2]

I’m glad you’re enjoying your S2419H. The ‘fuzzy and grainy’ look to YouTube videos is nothing to do with the monitor, it’s simply the content itself. Monitors do not treat that content any differently to Netflix movies, it is simply displaying the source material pretty much as intended.

[FroMan]

Forgive my lack of knowlege on these subjects

Im looking for a monitor to use primarily with consoles, I game at a desk as it is and am drawn to the low input latency the gaming monitors have.
My problem im running into is I cant exactly find a monitor that does what Im looking for I want a 1080p 60hz monitor that has the 5 4 or 1ms latency. I keep seeing 1440p or 144hz and none of my consoles do either of those things and I dont want to run into screen tearing from 60fps on a 75hz monitor. Ive seen some people say a 1440p monitor makes 1080p blurry but I cant exactly prove that myself. Does anybody have suggestions on monitors that do what Ive described?

Thanks in advance

[PCM2]

Hi FroMan,

I’ve merged your thread with this one as it’s on the same topic and gives some guidance. Note that there’s no such thing as a 75Hz monitor that these days that can’t also be set to 60Hz, so that’s really not an issue. And the ‘5ms’, ‘4ms’ and ‘1ms’ so you see specified is a (very misleading indication of) pixel response time not latency. I’d advise reading through this thread and the links provided in there. And considering what size of monitor you might like as well.

If the monitor is purely for console gaming on a console that only supports up to a Full HD (1920 x 1080) signal, there’s absolutely no point in going for a 2560 x 1440 model. A scaling (interpolation) process is used and that will soften the image compared to looking at a native Full HD monitor of similar size. Some models are better at this than others, we always explore it in the relevant section of our reviews (the ‘Interpolation and upscaling’ section).

[Anubis1631]

I have been searching forever for a console monitor. I currently run a Asus VG278Q which I bought for my old PS4. I have since upgraded to a PS4 Pro and have $500USD to spend as of right now. I was torn between LG 27UK650-W and it’s newer model the 27UL650-W. I want to stay in the 27” range and I want it to be 4K to maximize my PS4 usage. I had my Asus for a little over a year when it just snowed up today with teal and magenta and white snow, then all of a sudden cut out and wouldn’t come on. After the initial Asus came across the screen it went black and the backlight would blip around every ten seconds and nothing I did helped. I just bought a new LG 55” C8 and have had fantastic luck with LG products I guess brand loyalty based on its production. I’ve scoured your site and many many other sites. The UK is supposed to have been a good product w/ a contrast uncertified 350 and the UL is VESA 400 but I have seen some things that make me nervous. I’m ready to pull the trigger but am scared to. If you could shoot me a recommendation of one of these or even another one within my $500-550USD range I would be grateful! Thank you

[PCM2]

Hi Anubis1631,

If you refer to the recommendations section, you’ll see that we specifically recommend the LG 27UL650 (the W at the end just means it has a white-coloured rear and a silver stand) for ‘4K’ console gaming. As far as ‘4K’ models go it offers a good all-round performance. Strong colour consistency, quite vibrant and decent 60Hz responsiveness. I wouldn’t exactly say the HDR experience is anything to write home about, it lacks an appropriate colour gamut and any sort of local dimming (refer to our news piece on the product, which I’ve linked to).

Having said that, it does still capture the finer tone mapping of HDR. And many users find the look it gives HDR content appealing, particularly with respect to the finer gradients, better and more distinct shadow mapping and dark detail definition. It’s also a step above the 27UK650 in that respect as the finer colour processing capability is superior (10-bit precision and the calibration for HDR is better). Plus, it offers a higher peak luminance which is more suitable for HDR – and it peaks a bit above the specified value there, too. And I wouldn’t recommend any other 27″ ‘4K’ model above it currently, all things considered (which is why I don’t).

[Anubis1631]

You’re the man, your reviews make my eyes cross lol so incredibly detailed. Major kudos! Can I ask you something real quick? I just got sent a deal on a 27bk85u and was wondering what if anything you think about it, I know it’s just the business class UK850 with a 3yr warranty instead of a 1yr. Also it doesn’t have to be 27” if there’s a better option within the 550 price range but if you stick by the UL I’m on it. I just want to make sure that this purchase will be able to “keep up” until this craziness with monitors and 4K and the prices blows over. Thank you again!

[PCM2]

The 27BK850U is similar to the 27UK650, so doesn’t offer the ‘enhanced’ HDR performance, if you like. It has some more ports (including USB Type-C) and a black rather than white rear. And rather than responding to “deals” you’ve been sent, try to be aware of how you can support our work and also make use of somewhere with a fantastic returns policy. Which is especially useful when it comes to monitors, I can assure you.

[Anubis1631]

No problem brother, bought through your link to support you! Thank you again for your help and your hard work testing and responding to us.

[PCM2]

I appreciate your support. Hope the monitor works out well for you and I look forward to your thoughts when you’ve had a bit of a play with it.

[hiczok]

After giving it some thought, I also plan getting 4k 27″ ips for ps4 and pc (rtx 2070).
UL is not for sale yet in my country, only UK series and other monitors… and I do not want HDR without real local dimming anyway so this feature will stay unused.

Any idea if 27uk650 40-60 range works correctly on nvidia now? There is also asus pb27uq but it’s older and more expensive

[PCM2]

I have no user feedback to report on that, so it may or may not work correctly. Generally models with IPS panels and a basic FreeSync range (40 — 60Hz) do seem to work similarly with Nvidia Adaptive-Sync and AMD FreeSync.

[hiczok]

40-60 freesync range is ok. There are only few 4k 27″ 4k ips monitors with freesync though. LG sounds good I think

[TomD]

What’s the current recommendation for a monitor for use with a game console? I have an xbox one x but my budget won’t allow 4k

I do want a 27″ monitor really, is the BenQ EW277HDR still the one to go for? Must be under £200

[PCM2]

Yes it is. As a budget choice for console gaming, PC gamer and general PC usage with vibrant colour output and strong contrast it’s an excellent screen in my opinion. Which is why it’s still featured as a recommendation and hasn’t been replaced by something else. 🙂

[TomD]

Thanks for the response. I haven’t bothered to look at 4k monitors because I assumed they were still upwards of £400+ for decent ones. I might be able to stretch my budget to a max of £250, I’m wondering what this is going to get me. Looking at your recommendations I see the Philips 276E8VJSB but motion blur/trailing is going to be a problem on these cheaper 4k panels I assume? Is 4k even noticeable on a 27 inch display?

[PCM2]

Why assume anything when the review covers both of these aspects? 🙂 Motion handling is fine, better than the BenQ EW277HDR in fact and about as good as you’ll see from a 60Hz ‘4K’ model. The only way ‘4K’ would not be “noticeable” on a 27″ screen is if you’re sitting particularly far away with and/or have poor eyesight.

[TomD]

Well since my last post I went out and purchased an LG 436300UK 4K TV. This TV boasts an input lag of 12ms, which is one of the lowest available on a 4K TV right now, but I still notice the input lag. I don’t know why I’m so sensitive to it, I wonder if it could be because I’m so used to gaming at 1ms on a gaming monitor for years? It just doesn’t feel fluid and instant for me when gaming on it. I’ve also considered that the reviews I’ve read for this TV could have the input lag wrong…. Who knows, anyway, I appreciate TV’s aren’t your thing so back to monitors I go

For the Philips 276E8VJSB the guys over at Rtings have this model tested at 8ms input lag, whereas your review shows 2ms. I wonder why they have such a different result?

I’ve really got to have a think about what to do next, the Philips listed above seems like a good choice, the main things that are important to me and not much trailing/blur/overshoot and phenomenal input lag. I used the BenQ EW277HDR for a long time and you said the Philips is better at motion handling so I can’t imagine I’ll have any issues with it. I’ve never owned a Philips panel before though and I have no idea what quality control is like on their panels, have you had experience with various different philips panels before? Has build quality been decent?

Thanks for your help and taking the time to respond

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