[MrMulch]

If I were to narrow my requirements and only be looking for a monitor on which I plan to do work, ie text editing of one sort or another, and primarily be concerned with crisp picture (so the text isn’t blurry), being able to scroll the text without it blurring, and being able to display the same text on at least part of the screen for hours on end without burn in, am I still out of luck with with the big ones, or would that be workable?

[PCM2]

As I said in my original reply, I feel you’re becoming overly concerned with “burn in” as it certainly isn’t a universal problem on the likes of the BDM4350UC. Coupled with the strong 60Hz pixel responsiveness, it remains a good choice for such usage.

[heroesv5]

Hi I saw your review of Philips BDM4037UW on youtube and see that you are BIG expert and enthusiast in monitor topics 😊

Could you test LG 43UD79-B and compare your feelings with BDM4037UW …The biggest quiestion is if this screen not over burn and how it handle with work this type:
– graphic work for web (very rarely for print): adobe photoshop
– video: adobe premiere, after effects
– programming
– web use
– I practically do not play (very rarely a strategy or browser game)

For now I use: LG W2453V-PF and I want update it to big 4k and first I looked at Philips (they have 3 big screens: old BDM4065UC and 2 new BDM4350UC, BDM4037UW) but over burn issue in BDM4350UC and lag in BDM4037UW just kill this idea and then suddenly LG show this 43UD79-B.

Does this model also suffer from over burn BDM4037UW ?

Thank you for you hard work and any support 😊

[PeterOzz]

Hey There!
I’m planing on buying a 4K monitor along with the new xbox scoprio that is coming out this year. The monitor i’ve been considering is the LG 27ud69. Even though it doesn’t have hdr, it seems like best choice for me. My only concern is that the previous model (lg 27ud68) had some problems with high input lag at 4k using an hdmi 2.0 cable, This was also mentioned by somebody else in this thread before. Is there anyway to know if LG had fixed this problem on this new refreshed model?

[PCM2]

@ heroesv5

We have no immediate plans to review the LG 43UD79-B. We have quite a backlog at the moment and last time we checked LG didn’t have a sample available here in the UK and didn’t think they would have any time soon. I can confirm, though, that it uses a variant of the same panel as used on the Dell P4317Q. And it’s exactly the same story with that as with the Philips BDM4350UC; burn-in affects some units/users but not others.

I can only stress this again – it isn’t a universal issue and it actually affects a minority of users. That doesn’t make it any less annoying, but if you look through some of my other recent replies in this thread you’ll see that I wouldn’t be discouraged by such reports on the BDM4350UC as long as you can buy from somewhere with a good returns policy. With respect to the BDM4037UW, I’m not specifically aware of any burn-in issues. That doesn’t mean they won’t ever occur, although the panel technology is completely different with that one and it isn’t something I’d worry about.

@ PeterOzz

The only way to confirm that would be with proper testing. But be aware that individual sensitivity to input lag varies greatly and even if it does suffer the ‘issue’ it doesn’t mean it’s going to be an issue for you in the first place. I’ve received some good feedback from very happy users of the LG 27UD68 who have used it for gaming on the PS4 Pro.

[PeterOzz]

I’ll probably have to get one myself then. Hopefully it will be fine because i had the 27UD68 last summer and it was one of the best monitors I’ve seen picture quality wise. I had no issues using it with my PC.

[PCM2]

Excellent, if you do end up going for it your feedback is very welcome here.

[junky]

Hi

I need a smaller display (preferably, 15-17″ and lower)

Is there such a thing?

Thanks

[PCM2]

Hi junky,

For PC monitors the smallest ‘4K’ UHD monitors currently are 23.6″. The only exception I can think of is the LG 22MD4KA (21.5″), but that’s designed for Mac systems and hasn’t really been given a very warm reception by users. Anything smaller is currently reserved for portable computers – laptops or tablets etc.

[junky]

Bummer. Thanks

[hmouland]

Hi PCM,

Feel free to move this new discussion topic across to a more suitable thread, but thought i’d ask some questions about LG’s new 43 inch monitor; 43UD79

I have posted on this site before but as a quick reminder, I am a console gamer currently using an LG 27inch 1080p monitor for gaming and as a TV. I have adored this monitor given the monumental upgrade it was over the more expensive 32inch Samsung TV I bought beforehand. Since then, I haven’t been sold on these ‘budget’ low-cost TV’s, even now most of them are 4K UHD models. My brother has a 43inch LG TV (cost him around £450) and its rubbish! I don’t know why a so called 4K screen can be so bad! Long story short, unless i want to go all out and buy an OLED TV for a couple thousand of pounds, I am MORE than happy to use a monitor for both gaming and watching digital content.

2017 and the upcoming Xbox One X have however pushed me towards upgrading my 27inch LG. I am looking for a monitor that is at least 32inch’s, offers 4K and ideally HDR and as a real perk some sort of technology to reduce screen tearing, given the Xbox will support AMD’s FreeSync. Given these requirements, LG’s 32UD89 and 99 have been on my radar FOR MONTHS, but the rumoured $1000 price tag on the later has put me off a little.

Then enters the model in question; the 43UD79. Prices in the UK are around £629-650 which for a 4K monitor of this size seems reasonable. Although it doesn’t support HDR, it does offer FreeSync support, but the details on this are a little hazy so I’d just like to check that this monitor will support FreeSync with the Xbox One X and overall a worthy upgrade over my current monitor.

Apologies for the longwinded post!

H

[PCM2]

Hi hmouland,

I haven’t tested this model myself (see these posts), but I’m aware of some of its characteristics from testing of similar models and user feedback of both this model and the Dell P4317Q which uses a similar panel with different backlight solution. The LG 43UD79 should offer a nice upgrade from your current monitor and offer some good capabilities for ‘4K’ UHD capable games consoles. Contrast is a bit weaker than specified but colour consistency and overall colour reproduction is strong. It is theoretically quite similar in both respects to the Philips BDM4350UC, but there are significant perceived differences due to the fact the LG uses a regular matte anti-glare surface rather than a glossy (very low haze matte) one. Refer to the Philips review and this article.

I don’t have any solid feedback on responsiveness, although one user said he ‘felt a bit of input lag’ coming from a higher refresh rate TN model. But I suspect he’s just used to a higher refresh rate and would feel that way with any 60Hz monitor, regardless of input lag. There is nothing official to suggest FreeSync is supported, only some dodgy pre-release (unofficial) press information and some information from certain retailers. Notoriously unreliable, so I wouldn’t bank on it. It isn’t mentioned at all in the user guide, either. The LG also uses PWM, apparently at ~240Hz, so that will affect motion clarity and potentially lead to accelerated visual fatigue or possible discomfort.

Personally I think you’d be better off waiting for IFA in September, as I suspect some more exciting new models might be unveiled there in this space. I personally feel if Philips or somebody else can launch a newer variant of the BDM4350UC with FreeSync and no frame skipping issue or image retention (mileage may vary) then they’d be onto a winner and the exprience would be superior to the LG 43UD79. A decent HDR implementation would be the icing on the cake.

[bp2008]

I’ve been running one of these for a little over 3 weeks now. I haven’t tried to measure input lag scientifically but it feels just like my 2015 Samsung 4K TV in game mode which is known to be ~27ms. I am pretty sensitive to input lag and I think I would feel a 10ms difference in either direction. I can still enjoy a first person shooter on it, but it is a very noticeable step down from my previous 2560×1440 @ 144hz TN panel.

I can neither confirm nor deny FreeSync as I do not have a modern AMD graphics card to try it with.

The main problem with this monitor is that in a normal viewing position, the side edges of the screen appear shadowed for a good 10-20 pixels. This happens along the top and bottom edges too, to a lesser extent. This is not unique to this monitor; my samsung TV does the same thing. A secondary problem is that once in a while (like, once or twice a day on average for me) the screen loses signal temporarily, causing it to go black and quickly fade back to normal. It is about a 1 second interruption. This affects a lot of owners, but not everyone.

[hmouland]

@ PCM2:

Thanks for the detailed response. Think i’ll probably wait until September then to see if anything comes out of IFA, and to see how the 32UD89 and 99 stack up once they are finally released in the UK.

Interesting to hear about input lag, but hoping it wouldn’t be a massive shift from my 27inch monitor with advertised 5ms GTG, which I can use for FPS. Guess the feature that is putting me off is the lack of concrete FreeSync support. If i’m using it for the Xbox One X which supports this technology it makes sense to have a monitor that does.

@ bp2008:

Likewise thanks and interesting to hear your views on the input lag match what PCM2 said.

The bit about the panel performance issues (e.g. pixel shadowing) is something i’m aware of from monitors in general. I did actually have to send my first LG monitor back due to a whole section of the panel having darker pixels, and my rubbish Samsung TV before that had terrible ‘black spots’; I had to get 3 replacements!

I’d probably request a replacement if I was you under the year’s manufacturers warranty for faulty goods.

Cheers!

[PCM2]

In terms of viewing comfort it is difficult to say why the U2715H would have caused you issues. It might have been that you simply didn’t get on with the backlight, which sounds strange but is something that can happen in some sensitive individuals. The P2715Q does have a different backlight, but whether you’d find that comfortable or not is something you’d have to see for yourself.

You’d definitely benefit immensely in terms of pixel density on the P2715Q, though. I can personally use 27″ UHD models like that without scaling, which gives a tremendous amount of detail. But I actually still prefer using a little scaling or application-specific zoom on text and I’m sure most users are the same. So the benefit isn’t quite as pronounced as when going from Full HD to UHD without scaling, but is still very much there. This is covered on our ‘4K’ UHD experience article.

[bluegrass]

Been using the Dell P2715Q paired with a low profile Nvidia 1050Ti ( to get 60Hz) for the past 4 days and I find my eyes more comfortable with this setup. It is the A005 version built May 2017. Nice crisp display although I need to use scaling of 200%.

A word of warning to anyone using a SFF PC. The Low profile 1050Ti has a plastic covering which overhangs at the end. I had to cut so it slightly to make it fit.

Now playing around with the profiles to get optimal settings.

[PCM2]

It’s good to hear you’re finding the monitor comfortable, hopefully you find your ‘settings sweet spot’ as well. 🙂

[bluegrass]

Unfortunately I spoke too soon. The problem with eye strain (right eye) that started my mission to replace my old monitor has come back. Went for eye test today with no issues found.

Re connected my old NEC LCD1990Fxp and was pleasantly surprised that with the Nvidia 1050Ti I could increase the refresh rate form 60Hz to 75Hz. Looks a bit better.

I think one my problems was getting used to a bigger monitor i.e 19″ to 27″.

In my search I learnt a lot thanks to your hard work and I’m looking forward to finding the correct settings for this NEC.

[PCM2]

What viewing distance and brightness setting did you settle on with the Dell?

[Saphir]

Hello,

now I’m sitting on my 10-year-old Philips 190WV and well, now I’m going to study on a Collage where I’m going to learn among others some basics of graphics, creating web pages and so on. So, I thought I will need a new monitor for that staff. I’m also young, so I play games sometimes too.

I’m considering between the BenQ BL2711U and the Dell P2715Q. The BenQ costs in my country $575 USD and the Dell $685 USD, so the price is not so huge between them.

Which is better for me? Is it worth it to pay more for the Dell?

Thanks in advance. 🙂

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