[djkrisdee]

That “light to very light” matt surface I have on Philips 288E2A, and I’m not a big fan as well. To many reflections.
If i would go matt I would probably want “medium to light” like it’s on 27GR95QE-B.
With QD-OLEDs I don’t like how they look in bright room.

[PCM2]

Yeah, the lightening up is far from ideal but that example shows you two extremes and is at an angle which further exaggerates the effect. There are many conditions between “dark” and “bright” where the QD-OLED screen surface fares well. Take a look at our review of the AW3423DW with images shot in various lighting conditions for some examples. The notion that you have to use it in a dark room for a good experience is flat out false, but you do need to be able to control your lighting environment to avoid strong ambient light and minimise direct light where possible. In at least reasonably controlled conditions from a normal viewing distance, the reflections I personally find less distracting than the glare patches invited by matte screen surfaces. And yes, I find the reflections more subdued than the sharper glare patches on ‘light to very light matte’ surfaces. The diffusion of light on matte screen surfaces lighten up the screen surface in some conditions significantly more than on the QD-OLEDs, but it is localised or variable across the screen rather than a lightening up of the entire screen. I have extensive (and I mean extensive) experience with QD-OLEDs as I use the AW3424DW as my ‘daily driver’. I’m using it right now, in fact.

[djkrisdee]

Sorry for off topic but what’s your opinion about DWF model?
It’s currently on sale for only £710, but I’m hearing that many people experience coil whine, probably from PSU. And do you know if the newest models may have updated AG coating, with better reflection handling?
edit
Sorry, I meant better blacks in bright conditions. Reflection handling is probably the best we have.

[PCM2]

I share my thoughts on it in this thread. It seems the “new AR coating” was misinformation somewhere along the line, or the change is too slight to notice. I’ll have to remove references to that in the DW review – even the “2nd generation” panels used on the larger 49″ QD-OLEDs have very similar screen surfaces. The main issue with the screen surface isn’t really reflection handling as that’s very good from a normal viewing position, as far as glossy surfaces go. It’s the lightening up in brighter conditions due to lack of outer polarising layer that’s the key issue.

[Juan_Blanco]

Hi! Is it possible to get some kind of an assessment of the input latency with Philips 27E1N8900, by any chance? I’m on a quest to find a colour accurate display for console gaming with a prospect (somewhat faint, though) of upgrading to PC later down the road. Sadly, since I’ve been using an almost perfectly calibrated OLED as my main display (alas, it’s impossible to use it with a console) for the last few years I’ve grown so used to it that it proved to be impossible to enjoy any kind of content consumption on LCD displays and displays with subpar colour accuracy.

I’m OK with 60Hz limitation since HFR is basically of no use for me, at least for now. But input latency is still an issue, especially since I’m quite sensitive to it (also you get an already high input lag with consoles thanks to all the color space conversions (PS5) and resolution scaling among other things).

LG’s JOLED monitor has an incredibly low input lag even for a e-sports grade gaming display according to TFTcentral, but sadly you can’t expect the same from every monitor using the same panel (which is supported by your review on the Asus model).

I was also tempted by the ViewSonic VP16 OLED portable monitor, with it’s humble screen size and resolution offset by the manageable price. But it’s almost impossible to find any info regarding the input latency with such niche products, almost like it doesn’t matter outside of gaming!

There’s also a model by ViewSonic (VX2772-4K-OLED), but it’s a very recent release and there’s even less info on it available than on the others.

Regards, Juan B.

[PCM2]

I’m afraid I don’t have experience with the 27E1N8900 so can’t quantify its input lag and as far as I can see there aren’t reliable figures for that floating around. But I can confirm one of my monitor enthusiast friends uses it for various tasks including gaming. He is also fine with 60Hz, but quite sensitive to input lag. And he finds the monitor fine, so it doesn’t seem to have a problematic level of input lag.

[Juan_Blanco]

Thank you very much! After further research I’ve finally managed to find a Chinese review were the measured input lag is stated, which is somewhere in the ballpark of 34 ms (don’t know which methodology they employ, but judging by their performance scale it’s not total system latency, so that’s quite a lot), IIRC. Alas, that will certainly prove to be too high for me coming from BenQ EX2510 which I currently use.
I may post a link to that review, with your permission, in case someone would be interested.

[PCM2]

Feel free to post a link, though I’d advise caution with input lag readings using unknown methodologies.

[Juan_Blanco]

Thanks. You’re absolutely right, but it’s still better than nothing. Especially if you investigate and compare their data on other less obscure models with other sources who’s methodology is known.

Philips 27E1N8900 Review by 知电晓春哥

Timecode for input latency info is 06:48

[PCM2]

That’s true, with their other input lag measurements put into perspective it probably is a reasonably accurate measurement. It’s a shame – I’ll tell my friend they maybe aren’t as sensitive to input lag as they thought. Maybe they’re quite sensitive to pixel response weaknesses and simply get on with the overall OLED experience. 🙂

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