Some thoughts on Acer X32 FP (local dimming and screen surface)

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  • #73267
    sblantipodi

      when I want to inform a company about my feeling I wrote them directly.
      start from facebook and twitter…
      it will not change things but sometimes it works πŸ™‚

      as I said, I doubt that they will release a new firmware for this.

      #73269
      furama

        I decided to go with pg32uqx instead. It will be here by Friday, and i really hope the blooming and motion clarity wont distract me much…

        #73271
        Degrader

          Nice! Please let us know what your findings are once you have it!

          #73278
          sblantipodi

            I am trying to avoid buying Asus products since Asus in Europe has the worst customer service you can imagine
            but PG32UQX should be a good monitor.

            #73282
            sblantipodi

              Ok, I was a bit frustrated from the difficulties in switching from HDR/SDR on the X32FP
              and I bought the PG32UQX to “upgrade/sidegrade” my X32.

              With very bright HDR contents/highlights PG32UQX is clearly superior to the X32, no doubt,
              with average contents I prefer the X32. why?

              if I didn’t know the specs I would have said the X32 has more zones than the PG32UQX.
              PG32UQX tends to have a lot of haloing due to the brighter bias algorithm,
              and in some scenes it’s like if it has less zones than the X32 even if it’s the opposite.

              the unit I tried had a very silent fan, but the fan was clearly audible when using HDR contents at 27Β°C ambient temp.
              this only is a deal breaker for me.

              leave alone the fact that the PG32UQX has a real slow panel when compared to X32,
              to my eyes the PG32UQX is very comparable to the PG32UQ in terms of “motion clarity”.

              when switching from X32 to PG32UQX it’s like if you are acrivating the motion blur in the game…

              I had much better expectations for the PG32UQX, I’ll continue my tests but for now,
              the X32FP is the one that will stay on my desk longer.

              #73285
              PCM2

                Thanks for sharing your thoughts and a comparison between the two, it’s nice to see you got some hands on experience with the ASUS as well. πŸ™‚

                #73287
                sblantipodi

                  I’ll continue my tests, I’m obviously not a professional like you but I know my tastes πŸ™‚

                  I’ll update my findings later and let’s see if I’ll change my mind after I had tested more contents.

                  #73289
                  Degrader

                    Nice! Which local dimming mode did you use? Mode 1 quadruples the zones in the same way as the XG321UG does in Mode 3. Mode 2 and 3 are the best for HDR content. Do you notice flickering due to rapid zone to zone transition, that should be especially visible in Mode 3 like the X32 FP with the setting Fast.

                    #73292
                    PCM2

                      Just to note as this could be confusing. When Degrader says “quadruples the zones” (‘Level 1’ on PG32UQX , ‘Mode 3’ on XG321UG) he’s referring to the recruitment of surrounding dimming zones to create gentler transitions. πŸ™‚

                      #73293
                      Degrader

                        Yeah, that was a bit vague of me πŸ™‚ , but nice that you immediately understand me what I’m trying to say. So thank you for clarifying that!

                        #73295
                        furama

                          My pg32uqx has arrived earlier today and i have been playing it for few hours. My impression so far: the response times didn’t bother me at all, i am using mode 2 for variable backlight, and the blooming is quite reasonable, not that distracting. Fan noise is very faint. Coming from X27, this is definitely an upgrade for me. I feel i made the right decision to have chosen this over X32 FP.

                          #73298
                          PCM2

                            Glad you’re enjoying the experience and that it feels like an upgrade for you.

                            #73299
                            Degrader

                              i am using mode 2 for variable backlight, and the blooming is quite reasonable, not that distracting.

                              That sounds that Mode 1 is not really an option for you, correct? Do you see flickering then?

                              #73301
                              sblantipodi

                                Mode 2 is the settings I prefer.

                                PG32UQX is able to push more brightness in small scenes than X32 but there are scenes where I feel that it tends to overbright too much.

                                I sincerely don’t have a strong preference on one of the two. There are scenes where I like the PG32UQX more and scenes where I like the X32 more.
                                I expected more from double the zones sincerely.

                                The bloom on the PG32UQX is much more noticeable when programming using IntelliJ.

                                The color of the ide stresses the bloom problem and the Asus monitor has clearly more bloom than the Acer.

                                The Asus firmware is much more solid than the Acer one without the glitches that the Acer one has.

                                The overdrive on the Asus works much better than on the Acer but even with overdrive off on the Acer, the Acer offers a more solid experience.

                                I still can’t understand why they even consider to put a fan inside a monitor.
                                There is room for big passive cooler, why use a small fan like that?

                                The perfect monitor does not exist unfortunately.

                                #73325
                                GroundReaper94

                                  Thank you guys for all the responses regarding the PG32UQX.
                                  I would be able to get a PG32UQX for about 1400€, a PG27UQ for 380€ or an AOC PD32M for 950€.

                                  What would you guys prefer (excluding the X32)? I heard numerous bad things about the PD32M. Has anyone tried one out?

                                  #73329
                                  PCM2

                                    The PD32M is one to avoid, the local dimming algorithm is poor. The PG27UQ might be worth trying at that price, if returns won’t be an issue or you can sell at minimal if any loss as alluded to in my previous post on this topic. Given it is discontinued it’s presumably in used condition.

                                    #73330
                                    furama

                                      PG27UQ at that price is totally a steal, but not sure if it is brand new.

                                      #73332
                                      Degrader

                                        @ GroundReaper94 where did you see the PG32UQX for 1400,- euros if I may ask? πŸ™‚

                                        #73334
                                        GroundReaper94

                                          Yes, all three monitors are used ones from eBay (Kleinanzeigen) Germany. πŸ™‚
                                          In Germany, the PG32UQX cannot be bought in new condition anymore. It is out of stock everywhere. Only the used market is an option at the moment.
                                          All three are in very good condition. The PG27UQ has normal (not very loud) fan noise but that is to be expected. Was a common issue back then with almost all PG27UQ models.

                                          The PD32M will be avoided then. Thanks for the warning @PCM2.

                                          My current second monitor is the Coolermaster GP27U. I bought it new for 900€, but would not say no to a PG27UQ for 380€. It has some drawbacks (a bit slower response times, no HDMI 2.1, no DSC over DP and a bit lower brightness in HDR) in comparison to the GP27U, but I would save a lot of money and still get a decent HDR experience and office usage.
                                          The PG32UQX would be ideal in terms of size and brightness, but suffers in terms of motion clarity and the price. Very hard decision indeed. 😁

                                          Edit: I could get the PG32UQX for 1150€ from a private seller in very good condition with the warranty still intact.

                                          Should I seal the deal? 😁

                                          I am so uncertain at the moment because I could not return the monitor, but could sell it to another buyer.

                                          #73341
                                          sblantipodi

                                            am I the only one who suffers from the PG32UQX blooming?
                                            it’s massive on my PG32UQX even at 160cd/m2 (I use a colorimeter to calibrate the monitor at 160cd/m2)

                                            it’s very distracting on dark scenes or during productivity on software with dark UI

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