Some thoughts on Acer X32 FP (local dimming and screen surface)

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  • #71750
    PCM2

      Bit of an annoying workaround, but if you disable ‘DSC’ in the ‘System’ section of the OSD you can then create custom resolutions. If you then enable ‘DSC’ again any custom resolutions you create will disappear, but you can run the monitor as normal at 160Hz with all the goodies. And then when you disable ‘DSC’ your custom resolution should be listed again.

      #71749
      sblantipodi

        ok I found a “workaround” for the custom resolution problem.
        disabling DSC in the OSD fixed the problem. I don’t know how DSC can affect this but ok… nice to know how to workaround this 🙂

        #71752
        PCM2

          Haha. Yeah, we came to the same conclusion there. At least it makes it possible! 😉

          #71753
          sblantipodi

            lol, we wrote the same thing in the same minute 😀
            thanks for helping PCM2, I really appreciate it.

            #71760
            Degrader

              Hmz, still no firmware update available for the X32 FP on their support site.

              @ PCM2, are you still waiting for the update or did you already received it from Acer directly?

              #71764
              PCM2

                Still waiting for official release of the firmware, would prefer to test the version that’s released to the public. The review shouldn’t take too much longer after that is released and in the meantime I’m prepping another review, but will probe Acer about this if it’s not released by this time next week. 🙂

                #73004
                sblantipodi

                  PCM2 did you tested the ACM feature?
                  what do you think about it? 🙂

                  will we see something on this in your review?

                  #73007
                  PCM2

                    It’s just a Dynamic Contrast feature (it stands for Adaptive Contrast Management) that’s standard on most Acer models and similar to such features on other monitors. There’s nothing special about it really and it’s similar to what I’ve seen on other models. Its main function is simply to allow the screen to adjust brightness according to the level of light or dark on the screen. The whole backlight shifts as one unit so it can’t be used alongside ‘Adaptive-Dimming’. You can’t manually adjust brightness, either, so it tends towards (in my view excessively) high brightness even when there’s plenty of darker shade on the screen. It’s a compromise and quite pointless in my view on a screen that offers effective local dimming.

                    Well you did ask. 😉 I won’t be saying anything about it in the review. I do sometimes touch upon Dynamic Contrast settings but not much beyond what I’ve just said there. I’m moving away from even mentioning them as I rarely have any positive thoughts about them and they’re very rarely used due to how heavily compromised they are.

                    #73006
                    thewanted

                      I sent the X32 FP back today after trying out a 42″ C2 over the weekend.

                      The X32 FP is great, but once you compare it with an OLED, you start to notice the downsides of mini-LED. It does however make my life more difficult as I now need to fit a big desk in a small room in order to put the Dell U3223QE and C2 next to each other.

                      #73009
                      PCM2

                        576 dimming zones just doesn’t compete with millions of dimming zones, can’t really escape that. Though for some the C2 is far too large and the pixel density significantly weaker, so it’s not really comparable to the experience offered by the Acer. If this and its additional OLED shortcomings still work for you that’s great – hopefully you find a suitable desk for that expansive setup that also fits in the room. I’m sure you will, if not I guess a bit of DIY or custom desk design services could help?

                        #73014
                        sblantipodi

                          New firmware is out.
                          https://www.acer.com/us-en/support?search=X32FP&filter=global_download

                          As I said previously this firmware brings a lot of important updates.

                          1) auto HDR now works as expected
                          2) settings can be changed when Freesync is active
                          3) settings can be changed when HDR is active

                          #73016
                          PCM2

                            Excellent! Can now continue with testing. 😀 Would’ve been better if they included update instructions with the new firmware rather than just the old firmware, though. Procedure is the same, but people will have to download the old firmware .zip as well simply to see the update instructions.

                            #73018
                            Degrader

                              But the changelog is definitely interesting to see, the whole history of the released versions is present in the provided excel file! This was not the case with the previous firmware release, only the changelog for that release was then available besides the update instructions indeed 😉

                              #73022
                              PCM2

                                Yeah, a lot of changes for the X32 FP before it was released outside of various Asian markets it seems. They’ve definitely been busy improving it over time!

                                #73024
                                sblantipodi

                                  what about manually setting 10bit on nvidia control panel?
                                  does it worth it?

                                  will I see some improvements in some areas by setting 10 bit in nvidia control panel?
                                  are there some disadvantages in setting 10 bit?

                                  #73027
                                  PCM2

                                    The short answer is that it will make no difference for most applications.

                                    The longer answer is that 8-bit is extremely common for SDR content and 10-bit for HDR10 content (which is what the ’10’ in ‘HDR10’ refers to). This is what Nvidia drivers default to anyway if you select ‘Use default colour settings’. If you manually select 10-bit or 12-bit and the content is a lower bit depth, it doesn’t provide any advantage but it also doesn’t impede you in any way. And some people have a 10-bit or even 12-bit workflow for image editing etc. and can actually use that bit depth, in which case it definitely makes sense to manually select that. There also seems to be a small minority of game titles which might be able to load higher quality textures if they detect a 12-bit signal – it’s very uncommon but there are some cases where it might occur.

                                    #73028
                                    sblantipodi

                                      ok thanks for the answer… another thing that I’ll never understand is why manufacturers says that their monitors are color accurate to deltaE <1, 2 or whatever when they don’t calibrate each monitor.

                                      it’s clear that the calibration sheet is identical to all the monitors and that the calibration is identical to all the monitors, this is why we usually see monitors advertised as deltaE <1 having much higher error.
                                      they calibrate one monitors and copy and paste that settings in all the monitors. this is not how it is supposed to work.

                                      #73030
                                      PCM2

                                        Monitors with a factory calibration, which also include a ‘Certificate’ or ‘Testing Report’, are supposed to have been individually calibrated. The report should be specific to each unit and should include the specific unit’s serial number. The X32 FP is no exception, the report is for the included sRGB setting and should be unique to each unit. Are you saying that the reports included for all of your units are identical? Could you post a sample?

                                        #73031
                                        sblantipodi

                                          yes I’m pretty sure that it’s this way in every monitor I bought, not only Acer.
                                          come one, how can they be so non accurate if this is not true.
                                          aren’t they factory calibrated? if yes, why they are so bad before the calibration?

                                          when you update the firmware, you see a picture like this:
                                          https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ac8Y2tiRuomefsj39

                                          I suppose that that numbers shows the factory calibration for the RGB values…
                                          are my numbers identical to your numbers? 😀

                                          The sheet that comes with the Acer monitors is the same for every monitor and so for Asus and others 😉

                                          isn’t this sheet:
                                          https://photos.app.goo.gl/CkJtqmT4uj2N7rMt6

                                          identical to this?
                                          https://photos.app.goo.gl/9AzSNSHkk8e3P1iy8

                                          I may be wrong… just my toughts… I had the same thinking on every monitor I bought, not only Acer.

                                          #73033
                                          Degrader

                                            I’ve tested different samples of the Dell U2723QE and U2720Q, and HP Z27xs and all of these had a unique calibration report (where the serial number of the specific unit is mentioned) with different results, the one slightly better than the other. As I only tested one sample of the Acer I cannot judge about the X32 FP, but for the models I just mentioned there should be no doubt that each unit was factory calibrated.

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