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- November 26, 2020 at 5:28 pm #62285PCM2
As I’ve said in earlier comments, I do hope Sony can address this. But I certainly couldn’t guarantee when or even if they will actually do that. So it’s up to you really. The VG259QM seems to be another one that doesn’t list 120Hz in the ‘TV’ list. I’m not sure how much of a technical hurdle it is for Sony to allow the console to use such resolutions, but I’m not an engineer and don’t have experience with console hardware on that level. So it might be less stress and hassle just going for a model that does work correctly like the EX2510 or EX2710.
November 26, 2020 at 7:23 pm #62286JMidg3Hmm okay thank you, and thank you for the very quick reply. It’s pretty annoying because as of now, I’m even limited in the OSD with things like the brightness being locked due to I assume the monitor not being read properly, so I’m really tempted to buy the EX2510. Do you know for certain the BenQ EX2510 works well with the PS5? If so that’s great.
November 26, 2020 at 7:29 pm #62290PCM2I’ve received direct confirmation from a user by email that he has the EX2510 working at 120Hz with COD Black Ops Cold War on his PS5. This makes sense to me as 1920 x 1080 @120Hz resolution is listed as a ‘TV’ refresh rate on that model, which is pretty much standard practice for BenQ models. Various Reddit threads confirm that it works as well, for example this one. BenQ made their MOBIUZ models (EX2510 and EX2710) with both PC and console gaming in mind so wanted to ensure they would work properly and listing 120Hz in the way that they did basically ensures this.
November 26, 2020 at 8:13 pm #62293JMidg3Okay cool. Thank you very much for your help.
November 28, 2020 at 8:37 am #62308AnonymousHello everyone.
I checked recomendation post and about console monitor but I can’t decide what to get.I am considering two monitors for my Xbox Series X: Benq EX2780Q and Asus TUF VG289Q.
Benq is 1440p 144 Hz monitor (I know, for Xbox it will be 120 Hz), which can be set to 4k and Asus is native 4k with only 60 Hz.
Is there any downside to setting Benq on 4k? Is it true 4k like on this Asus? Or maybe when it’s set to 4k picture is downscaled to 1440p?
Currently I have LG 24MP88HV-S (1080p 60 Hz monitor with integrated speakers) but it doesn’t have FreeSync (VRR) and it’s 8 bit (6 bit + FCR).
November 28, 2020 at 8:42 am #62310PCM2It seems you’ve answered your own question here, but to clarify. The EX2780Q is a 2560 x 1440 (WQHD) monitor or ‘1440p’ if you prefer. It does not have 3840 x 2160 pixels and in no way is running such a monitor at this resolution the same as displaying it natively. It doesn’t sprout extra pixels. If it was equivalent, what would be the point in having a higher resolution monitor exist in the first place? It does still enhance the image quality to use downsampling of this sort, it enhances the resolution of textures and other elements as rendered on the game. As a PC user or if you’re sitting at a desk using the monitor with the console (or or otherwise relatively close for whatever reason), the differences would be quite apparent. But from a distance it wouldn’t look too disimilar to an actual native ‘4K’ UHD screen in most scenes in a game.
November 28, 2020 at 11:03 am #62544AnonymousThanks for answer.
That’s what I wanted to know. I’m sitting at a desk. But still I think about games. Some games on Series X are running in dynamic 4k so I 1440p should be better here? Am I right? But in the other hand I usually play FIFA which is in 60 fps and at the moment few games support 120 Hz.Could you clarify one more thing? If I set console for 1440p 120 Hz, but the game is on 60 fps. So in this case, is the input lag lower than on monitor with 60 Hz or it is same? Is it better to run 60 fps games on 60 Hz or 120 Hz?
November 28, 2020 at 11:11 am #62546PCM2“Dynamic 4K” just means it will lower the rendering resolution to maintain a solid 60fps where required. It would still be using a ‘4K’ UHD signal, it wouldn’t make sense to keep on changing that as that’s impossible to do without interrupting gameplay (monitor will blank out momentarily). Therefore I don’t see why a WQHD monitor would be better in that case. But you’re correct that if the game is frequently doing that then you’re not getting the most out of a native ‘4K’ monitor either – so the actual difference in image quality between that and a WQHD model becomes more questionable. And then a WQHD model like the EX2780Q would allow you to take advantage of 120Hz in some titles, so it’s more flexible in that sense.
Your second question has been covered on this thread already. You need the frame rate to be high as well, a high refresh rate alone isn’t helpful.
November 28, 2020 at 1:13 pm #62550AnonymousThank you. I will also look at 4k experience thread and I should know everything what I want.
December 1, 2020 at 3:04 pm #62585Azerty16Hello, I’ve just discovered PC Monitors and I would like to thank you for you deep review of monitors ^^.
I’m looking for a Series X monitor (right now I’m using a BenQ W1090 with my PS4, but a monitor would be more convenient), and I would like to ask you something about the BenQ EX2510 and its “HDR”. On the BenQ US website, it’s labeled “HDR10”, but does it really mean something ? Is it better than no HDR at all ?
And I still have my old PC monitor which is an Asus ML248H, would the EX2510 be a noticeable real upgrade ?Thank a lot for all your hard works !
December 1, 2020 at 3:20 pm #62587PCM2Hi Azerty16 and welcome,
HDR10 is the HDR format of the content itself, by far the most common format used for gaming and indeed movie content. And the most widely supported format on monitors – all of the HDR-capable monitors we’ve reviewed are responding to this HDR10 content. This tells you nothing about the HDR capability of the monitor itself. As covered in our review, the MOBIUZ EX only offers a very basic HDR experience. The colour gamut is nowhere near the DCI-P3 near-term target for HDR content, it doesn’t support local dimming and the luminance is only ~400 cd/m² which is not high at all by HDR standards. Monitors can also comply with various VESA DisplayHDR levels, which is something we refer to in our reviews. That tells you something about the HDR performance, but those levels are very broad really. The BenQ isn’t even certified at the lowest level (VESA DisplayHDR 400), but I wouldn’t look too much into that because the Acer XB253Q GP is VESA DisplayHDR 400 certified and I don’t really see what it would provide above the BenQ in HDR.
So you aren’t buying this or any similar monitor for HDR performance. Forget that aspect. The SDR experience will be far superior to your ASUS ML248H, an old TN model, for the following reasons. Which are pointed out by way of comparisons in our panel types article and our reviews of similar products to the BenQ:
– Superior colour reproduction with better colour gamut. More vibrant, with richness that’s better maintained throughout the screen due to much stronger colour consistency and viewing angle performance.
– Stronger static contrast contrast and superior gamma consistency providing more consistent detail levels throughout screen (‘IPS glow’ to contend with, though).
– Superior refresh rate, lower perceived blur and better ‘connected feel’ for high frame rate content.
– Better viewing comfort due to flicker-free backlight. The ML248H was one of the earlier models with LED backlights, before ‘flicker free’ was really promoted by manufacturers or broadly understood by users. The EX2510 is flicker-free and also offers a better backlight spectrum for viewing comfort.
– Nicer design with better ergonomic flexibility. I know design is subjective. But I always found the ML248H to be a bit bottom-bezel heavy, so to speak. And the thick glossy plastic bezels are fortunately a thing of the past with models like the BenQ EX2510.
December 1, 2020 at 4:41 pm #62588Azerty16Thank you for you detailed answer !
I used to love the design of the ML248H, but it didn’t aged well ^^.And just to know, is there any affordable 24inch/27inch monitor with HDR that worth it ? Or is it always more a gimmick than a real thing when certified VESA DisplayHDR 400/600/without FALD ? Do you think the BenQ EX2510 is one of the best option under 300€ ?
December 1, 2020 at 4:47 pm #62590PCM2I wouldn’t consider any model more highly than the EX2510 for the price and indeed for a good 1920 x 1080 @120Hz experience on the Xbox Series X. Obviously there are other choices to consider if you prefer to game at a higher resolution and sacrifice frame rate, or your budget is higher. As covered earlier in the thread and indeed the recommendations section. Just as a side note, the EX2510 is a model I’d consider having in the recommendations section, but I much prefer having models there I’ve actually reviewed.
Whilst an FALD solution certainly brings a lot to the HDR experience, there is plenty of room for improvement over what the EX2510 delivers without getting into the realm of the fully-fledged VESA DisplayHDR 1000 models with FALD. The ViewSonic XG270QC, for example, delivers a much more compelling HDR experience. It has higher peak luminance, a very reactive Dynamic Contrast setting and a more appropriate colour gamut for HDR usage. It’s about as good as I’ve seen from a monitor under HDR without local dimming. The stronger native contrast of the VA panel of the ViewSonic XG270QC also helps, but it’s also significantly more expensive than the EX2510 and a higher resolution monitor. I haven’t reviewed any Full HD monitors with an HDR performance I found particularly impressive and you certainly wouldn’t be seeing any for the sort of price the BenQ retails at.
December 2, 2020 at 4:10 pm #62611AnonymousHello.
Thanks for previous answers. I bought Dell S2721QS. I usually play games with 60 fps so I think going for 4k resolution is better in my case.December 2, 2020 at 4:11 pm #62613PCM2That makes sense. How are you finding it?
December 2, 2020 at 5:38 pm #62614Anonymous@ PCM2
It looks much bigger than my previous LG 24MP88HV. But colors are better.December 2, 2020 at 8:58 pm #62618BonvazHi, thanks for this forum and all the informations in the website.
I just bought a Playstation 5 and I’m frustrated with the choice of the monitor. I bought the Benq EW3270U. I love the contrast and the picture quality, but that’s the second model I get and I still have some problems (image retention and backlight vertical problem). Guess control quality is not so good at Benq. I have time till 31 January to return the Benq EW3270U and I really don’t know what to buy. I’m a casual gamer and I prefer 4k to 120 hz. I really like the 32″ format. VA panel seems nice to me for the contrast ratio and deeper blacks, but can’t understand if I have been unlucky with the EW3270U or they are more fragile than the IPS.
My budget is 450. Is there anything better than the EW3270U at this price point?
thank you!
December 2, 2020 at 9:01 pm #62625PCM2Monitor quality control in general is a bit of a minefield at the moment. Things can go wrong with any monitor model, really, the fact you’ve had issues with a single BenQ monitor certainly doesn’t point to a broader issue with the brand. Or even that particular model. If you like to stick with VA models and really liked the EW3270U then perhaps try another one. Or go for an alternative like the Philips 328E1CA that we recommend. There is no HDR capability on that one, I’m not sure how important that aspect was to you with the EW3270U seeing as it only offers a very basic HDR performance. Refer to my very first post on this thread.
December 2, 2020 at 9:21 pm #62631BonvazThanks for the fast answer. Yeah, I guess that I just have been unlucky with the EW3270U, but I’ve returned one yet and don’t want to do it again.. HDR was certainly a factor when I choose the Benq EW3270U, despite HDR is weak at this price tag.. Is there any other valuable option with HDR IPS or VA at 450 euro (I’m in EU)?
December 2, 2020 at 9:22 pm #62633PCM2Again, refer to that very first post as there are some suggestions with decent (bright scene) HDR performance there. The Philips 326M6VJRMB would be worth considering due to its fairly powerful backlight and VESA DisplayHDR 600 support with local dimming. It’s all explored in great detail in our review. And since it uses the same panel as the BenQ EW3270U but with a more capable backlight, you know what to expect from it in some respects and you seemed to enjoy that experience.
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