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- October 1, 2024 at 7:47 am #76467
PCM2
The BOE ME2709QHB-NF0 has both a CELL (as used with the ‘QD’ models) and panel with backlight unit included (as presumably used with the other models). These can certainly differ when it comes to contrast. Also interesting to note that ‘interlace pattern artifacts’ were fairly noticeable on the VX2728J-2K (at lower refresh rates, at least) and much less so on the MAG 274QRF QD E2 I tested. EOTF and gamma can technically be used interchangeably, though it’s more common to use EOTF when referring to HDR and gamma for SDR. The scale can be a bit difficult to interpret on those graphs when comparing this mentally to the usual gamma graphs you’d see and the deviation looks somewhat exaggerated because of that. It’s not unusual to see that sort of gamma deviation and it’s certainly seen on quite a few MSI models, which unfortunately also lack alternative gamma settings.
October 10, 2024 at 7:10 am #76506PCM2
Some great feedback and useful information on the MAG 274QRF QD E2 from losttarn has been moved onto a more specific thread for that model.
January 13, 2025 at 3:58 pm #76829Zaewyn
What’s the difference between the Viewsonic VX2728-2K, and the Viewsonic VX2728J-2K, Meaning the difference between the “J” and the “non-J” version?
January 13, 2025 at 3:59 pm #76832PCM2
The ‘J’ model has a fully adjustable stand, whereas the ‘non-J’ has a tilt-only stand.
January 23, 2025 at 2:11 pm #76857Tom
Bit of a shot in the dark with this question and I hope I’ve posted it in the right section, sorry if not.
Recently I noticed the AOC Gaming Q27G4XD was on sale for £135, which seemed like a bargain for a 1440p 180Hz IPS monitor so I purchased one as a second monitor. My main monitor is an Optix G273QF which I’ve been using for a few years, which I think was a suggestion from this very place 🙂
Anyway, I hooked up the Q27G4XD as my main monitor just to test it out and almost straight away I felt like I was noticing some input lag with the cursor, it almost felt like it was floating around the screen instead of being super responsive like the Optix G273QG is. I went through the AOC monitor settings and I noticed it has a ‘low input lag’ mode on it which when enabled makes it so that you can’t enable G-sync. With ‘low input lag’ mode on it seemed much more responsive and snappy. Not sure if this is all placebo mind, but if it isn’t, could it be because the AOC is just a cheaper panel? It was a bit baffling to me that it has a low input lag mode (which disables gsync), shouldn’t it have low input lag straight out of the box?
Cheers
January 23, 2025 at 2:15 pm #76861PCM2
Yes, usually on AOC monitors they’ll have low input lag with Adaptive-Sync (including G-SYNC) active and input lag will be similar to VRR disabled and “Low Input Lag” enabled. In theory the same should apply to that model, but I’m not sure it does based on what you’re experiencing.
January 25, 2025 at 1:23 pm #76877wizzie
Hi i’m looking for the cheapest 27″ 1440p 144-180hz ips with a decent srgb mode (preferably under 300 euro), like no or very little oversaturation, fairly accurate color temperature, fairly accurate gamma curve that doesn’t overdarken dark stuff, and unlocked brightness. I would also like a single overdrive mode to be usable down to 60hz, doesn’t need to be the fastest pixel response.
I’m in greece but i can purchase from german amazon or chinese stores for ktc or other chinese brands.January 25, 2025 at 1:27 pm #76879PCM2
The problem is inter-unit variation. There is really no model I could suggest that’s affordable and will be in any way guaranteed to offer accurate sRGB emulation with respect to gamma tracking and colour temperature Do you actually need a monitor-side sRGB emulation setting, or could you use a GPU level alternative? That would at least allow you to explore different gamma modes (if offered) and adjust colour temperature whilst having a hopefully reliable sRGB gamut clamp in place.
January 25, 2025 at 2:21 pm #76880wizzie
I have no problem with a gpu level srgb clamp, however i have no way to verify whether the gamma modes and rgb values i’m applying are correct. The Asus XG27ACS and Dell G2724D seems to be pretty accurate, but the Asus is very expensive here (299) and the Dell seems to be going up in price day by day (maybe it’s end of life?).
January 25, 2025 at 2:29 pm #76882PCM2
I’m hoping they don’t pull the G2724D. The G2725D I see as a cheaper and newer alternative, but it doesn’t have all of its features (it lacks an sRGB setting, HDMI 2.1 VRR, adjustable stand etc.). I’m also currently testing it and I can’t recommend it if you want accurate gamma tracking. I don’t really know which model I could recommend in this price range that you can be assured would have accurate gamma tracking, it’s often an afterthought for gaming monitors. The G2724D does seem to best bet as it seems to have at least some degree of care put into its sRGB calibration. Hopefully you’ll be able to find a good deal on it!
January 25, 2025 at 8:42 pm #76883wizzie
February 9, 2025 at 8:18 am #76903PCM2
Our review of the Dell G2725D is now live. Quick comparison with the MSI MAG 274QRF QD E2 here.
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