[PCM2]

Part of the calibration issue is that the gamma curve is a little bit off, but it isn’t bad by any means. I’m doubtful it would make any real difference for your intended uses, and I absolutely appreciate how the glossy screen surface could be preferred. So I think this is probably a good and significant difference to focus on and a significant point in favour of the S2316H. In a reasonably well lit room it has a great positive effect on perceived black depth, too, which is a nice bonus given that it is an IPS rather than VA panel.

[Anonymous]

Understood, thanks!

I think that’s going to be the one, then. It’s going for 186.73€ in Amazon Spain right now (sold by Amazon), but I think the stylish look is worth it.

I see there’s a newer version, the S2318H, which is only sold by a third party and not by Amazon. Any significant difference between the two that you’re aware of? Only things I can see are physical buttons instead of touch ones, and a different stand.

If there aren’t any major differences, I’ll probably pull the trigger next week (I’ll go through your referral link of course).

Cheers!

[PCM2]

The S2318H just offers re-worked aesthetics really. It doesn’t substantially differ in performance, from what I understand. This is based on user feedback and a little hands-on at IFA back in September. Not from extensive testing. 🙂

[sshnuke]

I am looking for a 24″ monitor which which will be in constant use for documents/spreadsheets/emails and browsing. Very little gaming or graphics use. I have shortlisted two monitors:

HP 24ea 23.8 IPS £120/$160 Black Friday reductions make this an appealing option – originally £170/$226

OR

HP 24o 24″ VA £140/$186 The screen is 24″ diagonal. It is a tiny increase but having seen it instore it seems to be a visible difference as well.

I have considered and ruled out the following but happy to throw them back in to the mix in case I’ve missed something

Dell 2418H LP I have seen this monitor in store. It looks stunning but the thread helped me to narrow it down. https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/hp-25er-vs-dell-s2415h/#post-41081

Samsung S24F356 LPS £116\$154
Samsung S24F350FHU LP £130\$173

All of the monitors are 1920 x 1080\60hz

I’ve thrown around quite a bit of jargon here but please assume I didn’t know what most of the terms meant two days ago. My needs are pretty basic but if I look at one more monitor review I think my brain will explode. Any help appreciated.

[PCM2]

Why exactly did you rule out the S24F350FH? It’s ~£124 and a superior choice to HP 24ea. It is better calibrated, more responsive, features AMD FreeSync (may be of limited benefit), can run at 75Hz without issue and has a slightly less grainy screen surface. The reason we have recommended the 25″ and 27″ variants is because of their low haze screen surface, primarily. The 24ea doesn’t feature that. So don’t be duped into the consumer zombie-isms that come about from ‘Black Friday deals’. Just because something is (apparently) heavily discounted doesn’t mean it’s a good deal.

Also I disagree about the extra 0.4″ making a scrap of difference in reality. Looking down on monitors beside each other in a store is one thing, actually using a single monitor and getting used to it on your desk is another. I frequently use monitors frequently between 23″ and 43″ with every size in between that is available and I can tell you that the difference between 23.6″ and 24″ will soon be forgotten once you start using either monitor for a little while.

[sshnuke]

Thanks for responding.

– Apologies, I forgot to say why I ruled out the Samsung model. When I looked at them in store they had what looked like a cheap plastic build. As per the second sentence in your review link the styling was just not my tastes. The design and styling seems far superior on the Dell & HP models. However, it’s what’s on the inside that counts so at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what it looks like.

– I had no idea the Samsung was a superior choice so thanks so much and a humble thank you for taking the time to detail all the reasons why and for putting me on the right track.

– The HP 24ea has been at a higher price for over a year so it wasn’t that mindless, for someone who knows very little about monitors, to think it could be a good deal and to come here and ask for help before making a purchase.

– re 0.4″. I actually noticed the difference in-store before I knew the screen sizes. I spend much of the day trying to fit as much of a document on to the screen as possible so I honestly thought it was worth thinking about.

Will the Samsung be a superior choice to all the other monitors in the shortlist as well?

[PCM2]

I wasn’t suggesting you hadn’t given the HP some thought and were pleased with the discount, but even with that it doesn’t exactly stand out for any particular reason. With respect to screen size, the point was that you noticed the difference in-store. With several monitors next to each other. That is a very different, artificial and constrained way of looking at things compared to your normal usage on a desk.

I think I’ve made my thoughts on the Samsung pretty clear on this forum and reiterated some important differentiators in my previous post. It’s also the model I specifically recommend over others, for these reasons. I accept that the build quality isn’t wonderful, although I don’t really think any of the models you’re considering are great in that respect either. They’re all quite plasticy and in this price range you’re better off focusing primarily on image quality, which the Samsung has an edge in.

[sshnuke]

– Screen size. I take your point and agree with you.. The point I was also hoping to make was that, when working with lines of text, I appreciate every bit of screen space I can get whether it’s pressing F11 day in day out or getting an extra 0..4″.

– Yes some of others were plasticy but there was enough difference in the look and style of most of the monitors to make me overlook the Samsung. I think I can say with a measure of confidence that many unknowing customers like myself might make the same mistake.

– I hate to admit it but I didn’t know you specifically recommended the Samsung model so I guess my first post may have seemed quite dismissive for want of a better word. Definitely not intended. By the time I discovered your site I had already shortlisted the HP monitors and hadn’t seen your review. I only mentioned the Samsung because I didn’t what I was doing and thought I should ask someone who does know. I’m glad I did!

Thanks for helping me to make the right purchasing decision and reducing the shortlist to one! I’m tempted to say I bow to your greatness but you called me a zombie! (I jest. I jest. Thank you!)

[PCM2]

Haha, no I can see from your level of responsiveness and well thought-out replies that you’re no zombie. 😉

[maximo]

Hello.
I am want to buy a monitor to connect to my laptop.
My main use is on word excel and reading articles

the 4 monitors are:

1. Samsung S24F350FH ‏
2. LG 24MP48HQ ‏
3. Viewsonic VA2419SH ‏
4. Philips 240V5QDAB ‏

They all about the same price.

I think that except the samsung they all have tilt option , how much important the tilt is ?

Thanks in advance

[PCM2]

Hi maximo,

I’ve placed your post here as it addresses your question. I’d also recommend a forum search for the Samsung S24F350FH. It offers a slightly lighter matte screen surface than the AH-IPS alternatives, a slightly better colour gamut and is very well calibrated ‘out of the box’. And it does feature tilt, so that isn’t a valid reason to discount it.

[maximo]

So the f350 is the best for my uses between the 4?

[PCM2]

Yes.

[nervousrhino1]

Hi, I’m a university student so I’m looking for a 27″ budget monitor which I can use for watching shows, uni work, and gaming. I’d prefer it to be good for the eyes and at least 2 HDMI ports if possible. My budget is around £170-ish hence I’ve been looking at this Asus: ASUS VP278H.

If anyone has any other recommendations I’d really appreciate to hear them. Also whilst I’m looking at 27″ I wouldn’t mind dropping to 24″ if it’s worth it in terms of my budget. Thanks!

[PCM2]

Hi nervousrhino,

I’ve merged your thread with this one as it’s an appropriate place. As you linked to Amazon, please also ensure you are familiar with this thread – https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/buying-a-monitor-please-read-this.

For your uses I see no reason why you should consider a TN model. IPS-type models will offer superior image quality and are quite similar in terms of responsiveness ‘in the real world’. This fact is highlighted in various articles, reviews and forum posts here. The superior colour quality is likely to be something you appreciate far more than slightly better responsiveness (which most users wouldn’t notice, anyway). Having been a university student myself I also appreciate you may like to watch content from a seat or bed and possibly with friends rather than sitting up at the desk – so superior viewing angles can be helpful as well.

Perhaps consider something like the Samsung S27F350. But it is very economical with its ports and only has 1 HDMI port. You could buy an HDMI switch, though, if you’re not needing to use the ports simultaneously as that would mean you don’t need to keep swapping cables about and plugging/unplugging from the monitor. I also feel VA panels would be suitable for your uses – the responsiveness is a bit weaker, but plenty of people game on them and find them fine. The real strength is contrast; they’re the best models for watching movies and shows in my view, especially in a dim room. Something like the BenQ EW2775ZH would be well-suited for your uses, and as a bonus it features 2 HDMI ports. It is very similar to the BenQ EW2750ZL we reviewed a while back with a few new features.

[nervousrhino1]

Thanks very much, do you have a preference between the two you have suggested? The BenQ monitor looks stunning, my only concern would be I play competitive Rocket League if that may affect me, but other than that it looks great. And I did already read the thread don’t worry I’ll use your link when I do make the purchase

[nervousrhino1]

Also my old monitor was a BenQ GW2270H 21.5 inch and I had no problems gaming with that, so if this 27 inch BenQ is no worse than that should be fine?

[PCM2]

Indeed, if you find the responsiveness of the GW2270H fine, then the EW2775ZH will be the natural choice. With it being a larger screen some of the imperfections may be more obvious, but overall it should seem similar. So you can enjoy the benefits of it without finding the responsiveness too poor.

[bobanq69]

Hi everyone this is my first topic here. i’ve been in this site for sometime 2years ago i’ve decide to buy a u2417H for photography and cinematic work and i really appreciate it. but i just have to sell it because i’ve have some money problems here and i want some monitor for replacement and i have budget around 150$.i just want some 23-24inch display / flicker free/ va or ips for angle of view .

and what about lg or acer monitor such as LG 23MP48HQ-P .this is a really popular monitor in my country but i’ve never see review on any website that have a name for reviewing monitor such as pcm site so i want some opinion that you guys heard about it or it is just some average monitors.

i really love this site so much information it’s a true form of “review” and i really love it <3 .

ps.sorry for my bad english

[PCM2]

Hi bobanq68 and thanks for your kind words.

I have merged your thread with this one as it’s on a similar topic. LG have many ‘budget’ monitor options and as you can appreciate it’s not possible to test them all. And it certainly isn’t possible to review them as LG are quite selective about which models they provide review samples of. Generally speaking the core performance of these models is quite similar and also decent. Yes, I would say they are probably ‘average’ at least amongst monitors using similar panels. But that’s because modern IPS-type panels are quite decent anyway and the manufacturer would have to royally screw something up to make a monitor that’s ‘bad’ using such a panel. You also can’t really expect much more from a monitor at that sort of price.

The calibration will likely be somewhat worse and less consistent than on the U2417H and you’ll likely notice a drop in build quality. Overall image characteristics (contrast, colour reproduction after some tweaking, responsiveness) you can expect to be pretty similar, however.

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