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- October 24, 2019 at 9:40 pm #56443NicKtheGreeK
Hello there, new to this forum but I’ve been following the AOC 24G2(U) review thread for a long time. I’ve been searching for a monitor and I have to decide between AOC C24G1 and AOC 24G2/24G2U. One is a curved VA with higher contrast and cheaper monitor, while the later is flat IPS with higher color gamut (and the price tag is pretty unstable at the moment). Both seem to have the same response time and general performance. I’ve read thoroughly both reviews (which were great and very detailed btw) even though there are some aspects that my tech knowledge can’t comprehend, and I still can’t decide which is best for me.
I’m a casual gamer and I would appreciate an atmospheric contrast that the VA panel offers (plus the curved panel will be a new experience for me), but I also enjoy watching movies and series and since I’m upgrading from an IPS LG monitor I wouldn’t like to lose the variety and accuracy of colors. So is the contrast and the color gamut difference noticable between these two monitors? Which one manages to produce a better overall image from both aspects? Plus is there any other major difference between them?
As of now I’m leaning towards the C24G1 (since it’s cheaper atm and I really need to upgrade soon) but I could wait if the 24G2 is worth it. Also the monitor is placed in a brightly lighted room, I don’t know how that helps with the monitor brightness but I’m just throwing it in there lol
Please help a brother out
October 24, 2019 at 9:48 pm #56445PCM2Hi NicKtheGreeK (hope I got the capitals in the right place) and welcome,
I was wondering how long it would take somebody to create a thread with this title – congratulations on taking that step! π You’ve summarised the differences between the 24G2(U) and C24G1 fairly well, although it isn’t correct that responsiveness is equivalent. Not even close. The differences are highlighted in the relevant section of the 24G2/24G2U review. Take note of the performance difference in the ‘Test UFO’ pursuit photographs, the commentary there and also our subjective impressions from games where the comparison is drawn.
As for the complete comparison, which is really pretty apples to oranges, I added this as a pinned comment on our YouTube video review of the 24G2(U):
“People will naturally be wondering about the comparison between this model and the older C24G1. Note that the C24G1 isn’t being “replaced” by this model and will coexist for a while. It’s a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. Overall, the 24G2U is the better performer. More vibrant and consistent colour and gamma output, better pixel responsiveness, no issues with subpixels that would affect text clarity. Some users like the curve of the C24G1, would appreciate the stronger contrast or prefer the more natural and subdued colour output. It’s also worth mentioning that the MBR function (some users like to use this) is actually better on the C24G1 due to lower strobe crosstalk. There is no ‘best choice’, it depends on your individual preferences and what you value from the image, really.”
I would add that you’re coming from what is presumably a standard gamut (~sRGB) IPS model. As noted in the colour reproduction section of the C24G1 review, the shifts in gamma and saturation (related to viewing angle weaknesses – as observed from a normal viewing position) are not massive. So once set up appropriately and assuming you’re sitting centrally and a reasonable distance from the screen (>65cm), you shouldn’t notice things being too far off in terms of colour reproduction. I’m sure you’d notice the positive difference in contrast and would appreciate the lack of ‘IPS glow’. You’d probably find the curve quite natural once you’re used to that and might quite like it. You need to weigh that up against the superior pixel responsiveness and more vibrant and consistent colour output of the 24G2U. Yes there’s a difference, yes it would be obvious if putting the monitor side by side. But you need to weigh things up for yourself and draw comparisons with your current monitor which will set your expectations.
Edit: Some thoughts related to the C24G2 (C24G2U), a 165Hz variant of the original VA model with wider colour gamut, have been shared later in this thread.
October 25, 2019 at 6:47 am #56446NicKtheGreeKThanks for the quick reply, I definitely did not expect that. I was actually wondering why don’t more people compare these two π
I will make time to actually watch the video since I wasn’t aware that it has been uploaded. Since then I have a quick question, how prominent is the curve in C24G1? Does it make a noticable difference when viewing from a relatively short distance or is it “a joke”?
October 25, 2019 at 6:48 am #56448PCM2I’d advise reading through my reply again as I’ve addressed that and have already linked to the relevant section of the review. It’s also mentioned at several points in the video review.
October 25, 2019 at 11:49 am #56449ppn7Hi,
i never tried curved VA but i saw them in some market. I don’t like the curve and i will not enjoy the reverse ghosting in dark scene.
So i pre-ordered the 24G2U. It will be shipped in November here.Even if the contrast is better on VA, the 24G2U got an amazing 1400/1500:1 which is excellent for IPS. And if you use it with some light around you, it will make black deeper.
I will try the MBR but i think it might give me headache. Do you prefer 144Hz/strong overdrive or MBR on the 24G2?
October 25, 2019 at 11:53 am #56452PCM2The only way to assess the curve and how it actually feels to use a curved monitor at your desk, is to use it at your desk. Briefly looking at it from above (or even sitting down and using it briefly) simply doesn’t cut it. Your eyes adapt to the curve, but it takes a little time. And once you get used to it, flat screens start to look odd (convex) when you use them, until you let yourself adjust again. Most users find curved screens to be perfectly natural to use as we cover in our reviews. They aren’t for everyone, but the only fair way to assess that is to sit down and use them properly for a while. Not glancing briefly at curved screens that are on display.
I think I made my thoughts on MBR on the 24G2(U) pretty clear in the review:
“There was noticeable strobe crosstalk, clear repetitions of objects during all but the gentlest turns. This significantly affected motion clarity and nullified the key advantage of the MBR setting to a fair extent (lower perceived blur). An additional point to consider is that the backlight flickers at a frequency matching the refresh rate of the display, which could bother sensitive users. We found it accelerated visual fatigue and preferred the normal flicker-free operation of the monitor, but sensitivity to flickering varies.”
The implementation isn’t really good enough in my view for the feature to be particularly useful or useable. And that’s assuming you’re a user who can tolerate the flickering and other negatives (i.e. needing the frame rate to match the refresh rate exactly).
October 25, 2019 at 5:51 pm #56453ppn7Thank you for the details. Maybe I could live with the curve but there are too many other things that make me choose the 24G2U.
By the way, 2 questions about the 24G2U that I saw in the official AOC website :
https://eu.aoc.com/en/gaming-monitors/24g2u-bk– they say that freesync range is 30-144hz. Is it right or only 48-144hz ?
– they say too that the hdmi port can handle 144Hz. Iβm not sure if itβs a mistake for both part because I learn that not all monitor can handle 144Hz via HDMI 1.4Thank you
October 25, 2019 at 5:52 pm #56455PCM2Our review addresses both questions:
The FreeSync range is 48 – 144Hz. See the screenshot below, from the review, clearly showing this. This is also confirmed on AMD’s FreeSync monitor page. I think AOC claimed 30 – 144Hz for the C24G1 originally as well, but testing revealed that simply isn’t the case.
HDMI 1.4 supports 144Hz, at least it did on our GPUs tested (GTX 1080 Ti and RX 580). There is no limitation with newer HDMI 1.4 port controllers running 1920 x 1080 @ 144Hz.
October 25, 2019 at 6:27 pm #56456ppn7Thank you again sorry for the disagreement!
I will try later with CRU tool to increase the range maybe.
Nice that I can use HDMI because my GPU only have mini DP and I havenβt mini DP cable.October 25, 2019 at 6:27 pm #56458PCM2That’s alright, it’s good to confirm these things. Especially if the product page has incorrect information that can mislead people! π
October 26, 2019 at 3:14 pm #56459NicKtheGreeKI made time to watch both videos and read the reviews in-depth again. Indeed the 24G2 shows better performance and even though it’s a shame it lacks the contrast of a VA panel like the C24G1, it’s still pretty neat for an IPS panel.
So I feel like 24G2 won the game this time. But there is one limiting factor, which is the price. I can readily acquire C24G1 with 190E while 24G2 is available from 220E and up. The supposed starting price was around 180E, so how come is it so higher? How much should I wait for the price to drop?
My previous monitor broke and due to my upcoming new PC build I will need a new monitor soon. Damn technology market π
October 26, 2019 at 3:17 pm #56461PCM2It is the dynamics of supply and demand. The demand for the 24G2(U) significantly outstrips supply at the moment. Most retailers just get it in relatively small batches, which sell out relatively quickly even at a price above MSRP. Different localities have their own pricing arrangement as well. I suspect prices will drop a bit once supply stabilises, but how much and how quickly is anybody’s guess.
Perhaps if it’s an option and you can return it if not satisfied, going for the cheaper C24G1 and seeing how you find it would be an option? Otherwise it’s really up to you whether to wait for a price drop on the IPS model, which may be a while away and may not be as dramatic as you’re expecting.
October 26, 2019 at 6:19 pm #56466NicKtheGreeKSeems logical, thanks a lot, you really helped me π
October 29, 2019 at 8:42 am #56507ppn7Just a question about the wide colour gamut. It’s well supported on Windows but do you think there could be some problem using the 24G2 with a PS4 ? Without the sRGB mode. Thank you
October 29, 2019 at 8:43 am #56509PCM2The PS4 is a gaming platform. With respect to the colour gamut, exactly the same applies to PC gaming.
October 29, 2019 at 11:20 am #56510ppn7Thank you π
November 6, 2019 at 2:01 pm #56649XxLh5xXNovember 6, 2019 at 2:02 pm #56651PCM2There’s already an existing topic on this, so I’ve merged your thread with that.
December 8, 2019 at 11:00 pm #57328LucasHi,I have the same doubt. Until now I’ve used a benq vz2470h with va panel. It’s a decent monitor but it died. I tried a 27 2k but it was too big for me. I’m going to use the monitor 50% working (Internet, excel, r studio, word), 25% gaming and 25% series and films. Based in that would you recommend the VA or IPS? Thanks
December 8, 2019 at 11:05 pm #57330PCM2As this topic covers, it’s an entirely personal choice and apples to oranges comparison. You said the VZ2470H was a decent monitor – if you particularly enjoyed the contrast, found the colour experience fine and want something more responsive without compromising in those areas… That’s what the C24G1 delivers. If you’re happier with the prospect of more vibrant and saturated colour output, at the expense of contrast (with that still being decent for the panel type) plus want an edge in pixel responsiveness then that’s where the 24G2 comes in. Some users find the weird subpixels on the C24G1 a bit odd as well, it affects text clarity – your VZ2470H doesn’t have this issue and is more similar to the AOC 24G2 for text rendering. Ultimately it’s something you need to see for yourself, if you can’t decide given the extensive information in the reviews and comparisons drawn in this thread.
P.S. Please don’t use the term ‘2K’ to describe the 2560 x 1440 (WQHD) resolution. It’s a common mistake so I don’t blame you for making it, but it’s an inappropriate and misleading term to give to the resolution and should be avoided.
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