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- June 17, 2021 at 4:19 pm #65186kllr007
So every cheap monitors have this problems ?
June 17, 2021 at 4:19 pm #65188PCM2No, it’s just very common on VA models without G-SYNC modules.
June 18, 2021 at 8:21 am #65191browncSo one would assume the LG 34WP65C is just a 1800R version of the Asus VG34VQL1B ? I wonder if the gamut would be the same? I downloaded the manual and it appears to have more color adjustments than the Asus as it allows hue saturation etc, rather than just gain of the main 3 colors. I still have 2 days to return my Asus and wait to buy the LG……. wish it had a light sensor and proximity sensor, miss having those features. After using the Asus VG34VQL1B, it’s sharpness in text is amazing. Just wish it were a tiny bit larger pixel size, like a 35″/36″ instead of 34″ in size.
June 18, 2021 at 8:23 am #65193PCM2As covered in the respective news pieces, they both have a 90% DCI-P3 colour gamut specified. They likely use a similar backlight I would expect many similarities aside from the curvature. But it is still technically a different panel compared to the ASUS and it’s an unknown how well LG have put it to use.
June 18, 2021 at 1:07 pm #65194unciaI’m still liking the Asus model myself. It has three color channel adjustment as well as saturation. I don’t know why “skin tone” exists as it just creates an unnecessary variable. I’d rather have color temperature options. Gamma is adjustable within Windows, something I actually found worked well enough for the time being. It’s not ideal, but it suffices. I can keep it at sRGB using AMD’s control panel, and toggle it to full-spectrum when not doing work where I need to have more accurate representation of colors. Red is a bit pink with the full gamut, but that’s something true of an VA. That neon red can be off-putting. The 94% blue setting helps reduce this a bit. Lowering the red channel does not make much a difference, other than dulling other hues of red. I do think a full calibration would serve users best if they can manage it.
HDR may or may not be a consideration. If it is, the Asus is HDR 400 while it looks like the LG is limited to accepting a 10-bit HDR signal. The fantastic brightness level is something that can be appreciated in everyday use when not using HDR. Paired with the contrast, it actually looks comparatively HDR when set next to an IPS panel, both with a standard signal.
LG looks to be charging the same as Asus does for their monitor. The curve might be better, I’d prefer a little less myself, but you adjust to it overall without too much trouble. I do graphic design, and I don’t feel like it negatively impacts my work often. Color shift isn’t bad enough to make photo work impractical. I’ve found the monitor a good compromise with its fantastic contrast ratio and good sharpness. There don’t seem to be any signs of static interlacing lines as there were with previous VA panels. So I’m glad to see this issue is being worked out. VA panels have a lot to offer. If some work were done to gear them more toward creative types, with customization in the OSD, I think it would help sway a lot of people IPS is still best for this use case, but it also washes out dark colors and blacks, losing a lot on the lower end when it comes to contrast. Instead of improving contrast over time, they seem to be reducing it with newer panels. Is it impossible to create a high refresh rate IPS panel with good contrast? The striking difference in contrast between IPS and the VA in this model from Asus is enough to convince me it’s worthwhile, at least until micro-LED or OLED comes down in price enough for normal people be able to afford.
One thing worth mentioning again, because I think people often overlook this point, is that Asus provides a 3-year warranty while LG has a 1-year warranty. My experience with tech is if it’s going to go, it will usually be right after the warranty ends. It’s like it’s some law of technology. So the longer you can have warranty the better.
June 18, 2021 at 1:14 pm #65196PCM2That’s a very good point, Uncia. The 34WP65C only offers basic HDR10 support rather than being VESA DisplayHDR 400 certified like the VG34VQL1B. With maximum luminance limited to ~300 cd/m² on the LG vs. the ASUS which reaches ~500 cd/m² under HDR and just a bit below under SDR. So the backlight is certainly more powerful on the ASUS for those interested in HDR or simply high brightness under SDR.
Anyway, I’m glad you’re getting used to the monitor and finding little workarounds for different uses. Also really nice that you’re not observing ‘static interlace patterns’ as I know you found them particularly bothersome on the other VA models you tried. It does seem they’ve reached the limits of contrast with IPS and can only really improve that further with more intricate backlight solutions. So for yourself I feel you’re right to settle with this one and keep an eye on how things turn out with respect to more intricate IPS backlight solutions or backlightless alternatives. 🙂
July 23, 2021 at 10:05 am #65464kllr007So I bought Samsung G5 34″ because of their sale (it cost 333€) and i love it. It is better than GB G34WQC I returned, its cheaper (GB cost 480€ in my country), I did not notice any flickering with G-Sync Compt.
One thing I did not like is that Curve – its aggressive and at sides it is not curved so you have feeling that sides go from you… Hard to explain.
Also according to HardwareUnboxed video, I set 120Hz because of best response times.July 23, 2021 at 10:12 am #65468PCM2Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Samsung C34G55T (Odyssey G5 UltraWide), kllr007. I’m glad you’re happier with its responsiveness than with the 1500R Samsung panel (as used on the Gigabyte G34WQC). And that ‘G-SYNC Compatible Mode’ is working correctly for you. You’re right to point out that the curve isn’t uniform – the monitor is indeed more aggressively curved centrally than towards the sides. 1000R is really just the overall curvature. 🙂
September 1, 2021 at 11:04 am #65744PCM2A little discussion on the Dell S3422DWG now RTINGS has released their review can be found here.
September 12, 2021 at 4:35 pm #66255M2077Hey there!
Hope I am not posting this somewhere wrong, but does anyone have any information about the AOC CU34G3S? It popped up in my country recently for quite an attractive price (relative to other monitors). I was all but settled on the M27Q or the MSI Optix MAG274QRF (depending on which one is available), but seeing this one at that price makes me wonder if it could be a good deal (it’s essentially the same price as the Gigabyte M27Q, or ~ $70 cheaper than the MSI Optix MAG274QRF, Gigabyte G34WQC, and the Samsung Odyssey G7). I am mainly concerned with the motion handling and the ghosting as I am sure that I wouldn’t be able to “unsee” it if I ever noticed it, and I practically can’t return it at all in my country unless it’s straight up DOA.
I suspect that it has the same panel as the Samsung Odyssey G5 34″, but I am not sure. The only video I could find on it[0] had no ghosting on the pursuit photography, but pretty obvious overshoot (which makes me think it was taken at the highest overdrive setting, i.e., not really representative). There’s also this Reddit thread[1], but it doesn’t have much information.
That said, it seems that there are some upcoming budget IPS 3440 x 1440 monitors (AOC U34G3X), so I may just wait for those as a safer bet.
[0]: https://youtu.be/3D6pIi300aU?t=237 (pursuit photography @ 3:57)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/mpfxbj/aoc_cu34g3s_first_impressions/September 12, 2021 at 4:47 pm #66258PCM2Hi M2077,
You’re correct to be curious or potentially ‘concerned’ about the motion handling of the CU34G3S. Put simply, the other models you’re considering (27″ options) are in a different league in that respect. You can see this from the pursuit photography in the video you linked to (see ‘Human Eye Speed’ photograph at 3:57 which I’ve pointed the link in your post to), although he appears to have set it to the ‘Speed’ overdrive setting. The dark background shows a fair whack ‘heavy powdery’ trailing, although that row is so dark in the image and the resolution so poor that it’s difficult to see properly. The remaining rows show significant overshoot. In practice you won’t want to use this setting, you’ll want to use ‘Medium’ or ‘Weak’ which will bring further weaknesses in pixel responsiveness but lower overshoot. I’ve received feedback from a user who has the CU34G3S to go with his CU34G2X from another system. He was curious about the stronger curve and kind of likes that aspect himself, but he said it’s otherwise very difficult to tell them apart. It does have ‘smeary’ trailing for some transitions, as typical for VA models. He only games very casually but even then finds the motion performance only ‘acceptable’ and wouldn’t want to use it for faster-paced gaming. It’s based around a CSOT panel (they took over production from Samsung) – the same CELL as used in the C34G55T, but with a wide gamut backlight fitted.
September 12, 2021 at 7:21 pm #66262M2077I see, thanks a lot! I’ll stick with the 27″ options then.
September 22, 2021 at 8:04 am #66308NemboDo you guys think is worth to switch to a new monitor VG34VQL1B from a PG348Q,
thank for the advice
September 22, 2021 at 8:13 am #66312PCM2Nembo,
I’ve merged your thread with this one as there is relevant discussion on the VG34VQL1B. I’d also advise a forum search as it’s discussed elsewhere and this will help highlight posts discussing it.
It’s not a straight upgrade from the PG348Q by any means. You gain a higher refresh rate but inferior pixel responsiveness, with the pixel response tuning seeming worse if you use an Nvidia GPU vs. AMD – which I’d assume you do use given you’re coming from a G-SYNC model. You lose the seamless operation across the VRR range you get with VSync and lack of flicking during heavy fluctuation as you may see with the ASUS. You also lose out when it comes to colour consistency, but gain a more generous colour gamut. So things will perhaps look more saturated and vibrant overall, but there will be shifts at different points in the screen. As explained in our panel types article with reference to VA panels and explored in our reviews of such models.
So apples to oranges really, a proper apples to apples upgrade from the PG348Q would really come from a modern IPS UltraWide with LG IPS panel like your current model uses.
October 8, 2021 at 11:58 am #66427WideDisplay@PCM2 I love this site for it’s super detailed info that’s why I am posting here now 🙂 Hope you can give me some advice
I see from searching that you regard the Samsung SVA 34″ generally higher than the AUO 35″. However, I have read from some users who feel the exact opposite way. Now I am unsure which to choose.
My current monitor is a LG 4K 27 60hz IPS. I also have a Iiyama 24″ 1080p AMVA display. Both displays are sRGB. I generally prefer sRGB because it is more consistent across all apps compared to wide gamut. So wide gamut is nice but not necessarily an advantage for me. Calibrated colors I do consider an advantage. Both my current displays are factory calibrated AFAIK.
So I have experience with VA because I have the AMVA display I mentioned. I do not find ghosting at all an issue with this display. Yes I can notice it but I do not consider it a problem. What I do find important is (perceived) contrast. I do like a punchy display that is not washed out. With that in mind, will the AUO 35″ be good enough or disappoint?
Regarding CSOT, I noticed the Huawei Mateview GT 34 has a CSOT display, and claims to be very accurately (dE < 2) calibrated in both wide gamut and sRGB modes. This sounds very impressive, but there is not that much info about this display. If we presume this display IS as good as it seems to be (user reviews seem positive), is it worth the premium over Samsung or 35″ AUO displays? Is also quite like 35″ vs 34″ even if it is a small difference, it can be useful. Would you go for latest / newest tech (CSOT) over old or is difference in practice not that important?
Thanks
October 8, 2021 at 12:08 pm #66430PCM2WideDisplay,
Glad you like the website and find it helpful.
I’ve merged your thread with this one as it’s a suitable place – the original topic was really too specific and obscure to warrant its own thread 😉 . There have been many iterations of AUO VA panel and monitors using them. For example, the Acer X35 uses a 35″ AUO panel and I’d put that above any 34″ Samsung alternative I’ve tested in quite a few metrics. Though the older 35″ panel used in the likes of the AOC AG352UCG6 I found a bit less impressive in areas such as colour consistency. But I wouldn’t read too much into some of these comparisons between AUO and Samsung VA panels, the differences aren’t dramatic and are not panel brand specific, either. AUO and CSOT have now taken over display production from Samsung and make panels to Samsung’s own recipe in the 34″ space and for various 16:9 sizes. So new models will not be using Samsung VA panels anyway. That’s why Gigabyte, for example, now has the G34WQC A and various other VA models with an ‘A’ at the end – the panel has been swapped over from Samsung to an AUO (or possibly CSOT in some cases) alternative.
The Huawei Mateview GT 34 appears to use the same panel as the ASUS VG34VQL1A. Quite a few positive comments on that shared elsewhere on the forum (see previous page of this thread), so I think the panel itself ticks lots of boxes. My main criticism of the ASUS monitor would be the overdrive tuning when connected to an Nvidia GPU. No reason to think that would apply to the Mateview GT 34, but how the pixel overdrive is tuned is an unknown. It isn’t a model or brand I specifically cover or gather feedback for.
December 16, 2021 at 7:57 pm #67016PotapychHello guys!
I am so on the fence about this one. I currently have a 144hz TN acer monitor, which I am looking forward to keeping as my second monitor. The primary one is likely to be one of the mentioned in the title. And I have no idea which of these is better. I am playing CS:GO mainly, but also many single-player titles, so of course gaming is vital (and competitive gaming at that). I also play in dark, or ambiently lit rooms and don’t play co-ops or anything, so I decided to go for VA over IPS. I am also thinking of using a Vesa mount for 2 monitors, so the stand is of no matter. Which one would you chose?
December 16, 2021 at 8:05 pm #67022PCM2Thread merged, original title: “HUAWEI MateView GT 34” vs Dell S3422DWG 34 inch?”
This is a relevant thread to discuss such models. You can see my thoughts regarding the S3422DWG in this post and on the Huawei just above your post. Simply because it’s more of a ‘known entity’ to me, the Dell is the one I’d recommend out of those two, but I’d caution that for competitive gaming you should strongly consider an IPS model instead. Something like the Acer XV340CK P which we recommend, depending on pricing in your region. It’s simply far superior when it comes to pixel responsiveness, the VA models are really not something I’d recommend for anything beyond casual gaming. Furthermore the IPS models are free from the flickering issues in a VRR environment that are widely documented here and elsewhere and affect the VA UltraWides as well as VA models more broadly. There’s no perfect solution and you’ll need to make a compromise here. If you have lighting behind the monitor (bias lighting) then that can help a bit with perceived contrast and make weaknesses slightly less apparent.
January 23, 2022 at 3:11 pm #67283MartiniMy cat decided my Philips 276E8VJSB had to go, so I’m looking for a replacement.
While I liked the pixel density of the Philips, I feel I need more real estate, hence my choice for a 21:9. I’ve also started gaming a bit more (mostly Assetto Corsa and Flight Simulator) with a 1080Ti.
With my relatively tight budget and gaming need, I’m pretty set on a UWQHD curved VA panel (VA for the price, UWQHD so that my GPU will run it smoothly, curved to avoid viewing angle issues with the VA technology). The refresh rate, PnP, etc. are secondary.
On the top of my list is the Dell S3422DWG, but I’m also considering the Xiaomi curved gaming monitor and the Millenium MD34 PRO-2. Any inputs? Obviously your referral links are welcome.
January 23, 2022 at 3:19 pm #67286PCM2Martini,
I’ve merged your thread with this one as it’s a suitable place and provides recommendations. With your budget in mind (€400 as provided in your original thread title) I agree that the VA options make most sense and the S3422DWG is certainly the main one I’d recommend in your position. To set realistic expectations, it performs quite similarly to the AOC CU34G2X we’ve reviewed – that review will give you a good idea of what to expect from it in terms of contrast, colour performance and responsiveness. The Dell has a shallower curve and is marginally more responsive for some transitions. But it still shares the main weaknesses and does still have ‘smeary’ trailing in places. I think you’ll find it an enjoyable experience and probably have a good idea of what to expect from this sort of monitor so it’s certainly worth giving it a try. 🙂
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