January 12, 2017 at 3:16 am #41314
@ PCM2 Do you think the recently announced PG27UQ will support HDR when connected with game consoles via HDMI? Nvidia keeps saying G Sync HDR like they are supposed go together and we all know that G Sync cannot work via HDMI, so will that be the case as well for HDR? That would not make sense really, considering Asus announces another monitor: PA32U, which only has HDR and not G Sync.
Cannot use the monitor (an extremely expensive one) for both PC and PS4 Pro is a deal breaker for me.January 12, 2017 at 2:51 pm #41316
I too got the impression it was something that would be controlled by the G-SYNC module, seeing as it is a new feature called G-SYNC HDR that is specifically featured on the monitor. I’m not sure whether the backlight could be controlled in such a way for other HDR or for that matter SDR content, outside of the control of a compatible Nvidia GPU.January 13, 2017 at 1:45 am #41322
@ PCM2 I hope that they just call it G-Sync HDR because this is a new version of G-Sync that is fine tuned for HDR (like Freesync 2) instead of controlling it.
Also, I chat with a person from Asus Republic of Gamers on facebook and he says the monitor’s HDMI port is not specified, but HDR should work over HDMI. He may only be a personnel in charge of social media though, so what he says may not be true. I am awaiting official confirmation.
Considering Nvidia GPU supports HDR via both DP and HDMI, but G-sync is only supported via DP, we may have HDR via HDMI without “G-sync HDR” tech, which possibly introduces high input lag like what we see in HDR TVs.February 7, 2017 at 5:08 pm #41571
I made another small test about PPI.
PCM2 is right that CRT and LCD are not the same thing when it comes to dot pitch.
Simply put a 27″ 1080p LCD can’t be used if you want to stay close to it because you will easily see the black grid separating pixels especially on a white background. Thus to use a 27″ 1080p monitor you will have to keep a proper distance.
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Moreover regarding the aspect ratio, i also tested recently some models and i found out that 16:10 like i said before, works better for many things in my opinion than 16:9.
I would like to ask if anyone has information about 2017 future models that come in either 24″ 1920 x 1200 or 30″ 2560×1600. Preferably VA not IPS, also low haze value semi glossy or better full glossy. Other specifications i would seek are Freesync 2, along with flicker free, low blue light.
Also in the case of 24″ it should be real 24″ not less and rounded up.
A normal 24″ 1080p has 91.79 PPI, while a 24″ 1200p has a better 94.34 PPI.
A normal 32″ 1440p has 91.79 PPI, while a 30″ 1600p has a much better 100.63 PPI.
The 24″ 16:10 is only 1.32 cm less in height compared to a 27″ 16:9.
The 30″ 16:10 is 0.53 cm more in height compared to a 32″ 16:9.
The 24″ 1200p will be easier to play games with, and more useful if one has a shallow desk.
The 30″ 1600p would work best for editing/cad and more screen space and resolution for deeper desk.
I remember PCM2 mentioned a year ago Samsung S24e650XW.
Don’t know if that model really has a very light matte screen surface, but i would prefer some new model.
Right now the 24″ Samsung model i mentioned above (241 euro XM) is slightly more expensive than the 27″ BenQ EW2775ZH (189 euro).
I know 16:10 is pricier than 16:9 , and that people would be inclined and tempted to go for what will probably be the cheapest ‘big but good panel’ on 32″ found on BenQ EW3270ZL
The point of 16:10 is more near periphery usage, since near periphery is defined as a circle. And far periphery is defined as something closest to 16:10.
Thank you.February 9, 2017 at 5:10 pm #41588
Are there any new 24″ 16:10 1920 x 1200 AMVA+ models from companies such as BenQ etc. ?February 9, 2017 at 6:43 pm #41591
There haven’t been any 1920 x 1200 VA monitors for a long time.February 12, 2017 at 6:26 pm #41607
I am wondering if VA makers such as AOU are thinking of making new panels for gaming/movies in HDR using Freesync 2, for 27″ 1080p (budget gaming) and 27″/32″1440p (high budget gaming).
How much time could pass until such monitors would appear ?
I am interested also in, Low Framerate Compensation which according to the article above is mandatory on Freesync 2.February 12, 2017 at 7:55 pm #41608
I’m quite sure that we will see such monitors, but I’m really not sure when.February 13, 2017 at 12:24 am #41609
I have to agree that 16:10 is still better to look at and work. under normal situations where you are working at singular pages etc and don’t get easily lost when shifting between programs then it is need for. Take me for example when ever I am writing programs I always hate when I have no height to give to actual program, because most of it is given to other thing relating to directory path, debug windows, output windows, etc. the example is of netbeans or eclipse programing software java. It is always a pain to have low height and way huge empty white spaces around which are nice to be filled with fov of games and also for movies but coding and writing papers is too much wastage on left and right, if only 16:10 is there I could do these things way easier. Because even If I scale text to my readable comfort I end up at same real state I have with 16:9 without scaling so height is not sacrificed but I have double the trouble of reading and always moving my code up and down.
I bought new laptop from Lenovo end up having va screen and I am not loving it. the purple and green trailing is insane sometimes, if it is tn and I am mistaken about it then worst tn ever. Specially if set on power save for graphics, for some reason the trailing becomes way more pronounced.
When will self emissive screens come to all things!
I thought LFC was in freesync 1 already! what’s up being mandatory now in freesync? is it about manufacturers not conforming before?February 14, 2017 at 11:40 am #41610
Intikhab, i feel your pain. 16:10 on 24″ is nice. Too bad there are no 16:10 in 27″ or 32″ in VA or IPS for that matter.
27″ 1200p is theoretically a little more crisp than 27″ 1080p for coding, but both 1920 screens on 27″ have big characters – so easy reading, no scaling.
The laptop screen might have factory problems or is just cheap Chinese low quality.
If the monitor on your laptop has issues you should return it.
I don’t know if Laptop manufacturers use VA on laptops. As far as i know most of them are TN or IPS.
Self emmisive seems to be delayed, probably 1 more year for 2018.
Samsung decided to milk even more current LCD technology and priced their QLED TVs close to OLED levels.
Most manufacturers did not implement LFC in Freesync 1 !
But it is mandatory for Freesync 2 to get certification. So yes, manufacturers did not conform before.
About BenQ EW2770QZ, PCM2, i noticed they now call it Brightness Intelligence’ Plus, that also changes color temperature not only brightness.
Probably a VA revision with this will come on their budget and higher end models too.
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