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  • #65585
    sayhejcu

      Exactly my opinion about Neo G9. Specs aside, we have to consider that the monitor comes from Samsung. Samsung monitors aren’t really honest and have lots of problems. As expected Neo G9 have basic and stupid flaws not sure if they gonna fix it with firmware.

      @ Red_Negan I’m still not sure about the OLED. The more i read i came to conclusion that the future is miniled. It just needs easier miniled production. Once it’s worked out, it will rapidly replace the market in my opinion. OLED (all things considered) most likely will not be able to compete with complex miniled if manufacturing gets easy and cheap enough with competition. IPS vs VA will come down to viewing angles(color/gamma/brightness uniformity) vs ips glow. LG is already working on ”IPS BLACK” to mitigate glow. IPS looks like better candidate moving forward. If you have enough dimming zones, ips is just better than va.

      Since HDR is about absolute brightness (it’s not just brightness also the brightness intensity of colors ”color volume”) OLED have massive barrier in front of it. LG uses some tricks (wbgr subpixel etc) to get around and increase the brightness but colors dilluted with white subpixel makes the color volume weaker. Otherwise it would degrade too fast. Miniled is open to improvement.

      Short term: LG OLED is cheaper and superior. Monitor market needs to shake up. I feel like the first affordable miniled monitor will be Neo G7 or something like that from Samsung next year. AOC have this model: AOC Agon AG274QXM 27 inch 1440p miniled but it’s China only i guess ? I hope Innolux or BOE will surprise us soon.

      As for current market i’m debating between Dell AW2721D and LG 27GN950. You guys have any experience with these or educated guesses ? 16 vs 32 zones shouldn’t matter much but Dell have gsync ultimate so i think they actually thought about it and put some brainwork. 27GN950 most likely ships with cookie cutter 16 zone backlight without much care just to check the hdr600 checkbox. Also there is a color gamut and volume difference in favour of Dell in Rtings testing. They should have the same wide gamut but how it behaves in hdr mode is important. Rtings testings seems like the most accurate when it comes to hdr.

      #65588
      PCM2

        When you say RTINGS testing is the most “accurate” when it comes to HDR, I assume you’re referring to ‘of mainstream’ (data-driven) sites? That sort of data has its place and I certainly reference their own work myself – I’m a fan of the site and don’t want to take anything away from their testing. But it doesn’t paint a complete picture. Our HDR testing for real-world performance and what to expect is much more detailed and relatable to the experience you’ll actually get from the monitor. Check out the appropriate section of our recent PG32UQX review in both written and video format, for example. As I’m sure Red Negan will agree, nobody comes close to that level of detail which translates into real world expectation for HDR performance. Counting dimming zones and taking measurements with some white boxes against black backgrounds or very constrained scenarios just doesn’t cut it. At least some numerical indication of peak and sustained luminance values are good to know for models with complex or powerful local dimming – we provide those figures. Beyond that it’s far more important to look at complex real-world scenarios and how the dimming algorithm reacts in detail, not just provide additional ‘filler’ figures in artificial or limited scenarios. Gamut measurement without discussing how well the monitor actually puts that to use and the effect it has on the image after additional HDR processing is accounted for is also quite limited. With that said, you may have been referring specifically to sources that have tested the LG. As LG have no functional PR department in the UK, I haven’t and likely will not test and review the 27GN950.

        From the user feedback I’ve received I would agree with your assessment. Whilst 16 dimming zones in itself can be quite good to give a good situational boost to contrast, a lot also depends on the dimming algorithm. The LG’s dimming algorithm is apparently rather aggressive and will make constant abrupt adjustments. The AW2721D is gentler with its adjustments and tends to keep them for more dramatic contrast changes, rather than constantly adjusting things. I’ve received quite a bit of positive feedback about the HDR experience on that one, including some shared in this thread.

        As for OLED or other backlightless technology, I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss them just because of LG’s current WRGB implementation. Self-emissive displays using Quantum Dots would be able to provide exceptional gamut performance and luminance output without the same sort of burn-in issues as OLED. Nanosys makes most of the more capable Quantum Dot solutions used in higher end displays (including the likes of the PG32UQX) and self-emissive QD solutions (QDEL) is the ultimate goal they’re working towards. I agree Mini LED is exciting and has a lot of room left to run – and some spectacular displays with this technology are undoubtedly going to be released. But until Mini LED solutions have 8.3 million dimming zones or at least something remotely close to that for a ‘4K’ model, they won’t really match the experience self-emissive displays provide. Samsung are also looking to combine an OLED light source with a QD layer to achieve an effective hybrid technology. Remains to be seen how well that would perform in terms of sustained luminance levels and suchlike and how much focus will go towards monitor-sized panels. But I still find developments of this nature very encouraging to see and I hope Samsung do continue to innovate on the monitor side when it comes to panel technologies. As they’ve now completely wound down their own LCD panel production and source their LCD parts from others (CSOT, AUO, LG, Innolux etc.)

        #65590
        sayhejcu

          What i mean is that i guess everyone measures the color gamut in sdr mode. Rtings actually measures it in hdr mode. I measure my monitors with displaycal but it’s in sdr, i don’t really know how it actually performs with hdr signal. I’ve read lots of user experience states that AW2721D having ”much better” colors in HDR than 27GN950 but they are same when you measure it in sdr.
          Quote from Rtings ”We measure DCI P3 by sending a Rec. 2020 signal, but unlike most reviewers, we limit the colors we’re sending to the DCI P3 primaries. This results in a lower, but arguably more accurate measurement.”

          I agree with you. Wish you can review more monitors. I can have in depth knowledge and know what to expect from a monitor you have reviewed. Your reviews are like more ”analog” ”boots on the ground” type.

          You said LG doesn’t have functional PR department in UK what do you mean ? TFTCentral gets plenty of samples from LG. I can guess what is going on behind the doors after the HWUnboxed Tim’s video though. LG have great screen tech but they try too hard with the marketing. So much clueless youtuber gets free samples from every manufacturer makes me mad.

          AW2721D on paper looks really great. It’s like ultimate gaming monitor with optimum resolution/size/1-240hz constantly active smooth gsync along with proper semi-hdr for eye candy. Screen coating i think lightest i’ve seen in the market except TV size monitors. Build looks solid and good with plenty of ventilation. Digging the 4 side bezelless design. I think i will try that. I’ve returned the 32gk850g because of dead pixel and i miss that monitor so much. Now i’m not sure if i’m gonna be okay with 27 inch.

          Self-emissive displays using Quantum Dots would be able to provide exceptional gamut performance and luminance output without the same sort of burn-in issues as OLED.

          Samsung’s QD OLED is definitely interesting. I hope the tech will not be exclusive to TV’s. I think they will not be as bright as LG’s wrgb OLED but seems like they are prioritizing color volume so it may look brighter to the eye. At least that’s what i understand from their page.

          #65594
          PCM2

            Aha, I understand what you’re referring to now. Although I don’t find colour gamut measurements alone very helpful – even “arguably more accurate” ones with a link to ‘learn about HDR color gamut’ that gives no further information about the exact methodology for the measurement. That measurement method is obscure and explained in a very abstract way, I personally wouldn’t put too much weight into it and other reviewers have brought them up on this before. Using a Rec. 2020 signal then restricting that signal artificially to DCI-P3 primaries is not what happens under actual HDR. This aside, I think even if RTINGS measured the same colour gamut under HDR with the LG and Dell, it would’ve ended up with the actual experience being very different. Just like some monitors have different HDR modes which can completely change the colour representation, but without affecting the gamut. The gamut defines the limits of saturation, it doesn’t give you any information about how the colours contained within are actually used. For LG models I’ve tested myself, they usually have some weird interpretation of HDR rather than what I’d describe as accurate HDR output (34GK950F for example). But I don’t like to generalise.

            TFT Central doesn’t receive any samples from LG’s UK PR team or from LG UK directly. They receive some by good connections with LG’s Korean teams and also the retailer OcUK. They have some long-established relationships there which allows them to receive LG samples, we don’t and used to rely on LG’s UK PR teams. Which they no longer have. They now handle that in-house in the UK. I may reach out to their Korean teams as it’s quite ridiculous that they don’t supply samples to one of the UK’s foremost monitor reviewers with a growing global presence. But I don’t like to dwell on that too much, I’m still happy enough to cover their products and recommend them if I know they’re strong performers.

            #65597
            sayhejcu

              I hope you can review more monitors. 1 per month not cutting it. More reviews (especially the anticipated ones) will get you increasingly more viewer/reader. Internet likes more activity πŸ™‚

              AW2721D review would be interesting for example. It’s kinda outlier monitor in the market. FV43U another one. Maybe C1 ? Its flaws ignored by most people because it’s OLED. It would be nice to see it in your in depth review. Most reviews overshadowed by how awesome it is but what are the trade offs. I heard banding issues. Gray uniformity is concern. Tinted edges, text, bright scanlines on highlights, near black handling, gsync, gamma, abl in hdr, overall experience etc.

              #65599
              PCM2

                There’s no shortage of monitors to review from the manufacturers we work with. The ~1 per month is always going to be that way because it typically takes 2-4 weeks to review a monitor in the depth that I do. Putting together ~12,000+ word reviews and ~1 hour+ video reviews with a large amount of additional image material and additional video material takes an incredible about of time and effort. I also like to spend a good amount of time using the monitor as a normal user as much as possible. Not rushing through, ticking some boxes off and gathering a bit of data then quickly moving onto the next screen. It’s all about quality, truly unique reviews and not quantity or covering as many screens as possible. I love doing what I do in the way that I do it and many people appreciate this unique insight they get into a selection of monitors. There’s simply no way around this way of doing things for me. Adding LG to the mix would not increase the frequency of reviews it would simply replace another potential review. And that’s another reason I’m not chasing them too hard. πŸ™‚

                The AW2721D has been covered extensively by others and I’ve shared detailed thoughts on it already and clearly recommend it as it is, so that isn’t one that I’m too keen to review. I’m not saying it’s a definite “no”, just that it’s unlikely at this stage. To put it bluntly, I simply don’t get on with the current ~43″ high refresh rate models. I’ve used some of the older Acer and ASUS models and decided not to review them fully – and based on user feedback I’ve received the FV43U has the same issues that deterred me. Whilst I don’t find the BGR subpixel problematic on the likes of the M27Q, I do on the larger screens. And there are additional subpixel related issues and other imperfections that bug me. They won’t bug everyone and I think for uses like movie watching and some immersive gaming rather than spending much time on the desktop those screens can be really nice. Although feedback on the HDR performance has been pretty mixed. I set a limit at ~43″ so won’t be looking at anything larger than that. There’s a huge number of ~34″ and smaller numbers with much wider appeal for desktop use (and by that, I mean use at a desk) and that’s my main focus.

                #66321
                sayhejcu

                  This is probably not the right place to discuss Acer X27 but couldn’t find related topic so i’ll continue here. I couldn’t resist and bought the X27. Brand new X27 for $620 (it was around $2000) hard to pass.

                  I’ll admit i’m very impressed. I was a bit harsh on this monitor. Price was the main reason though. The monitor is well done and quite ”premium”. Except the osd joystick which is absolutely horrible. Fan is not bad. I guess this is where X27 get ahead of PG27UQ. Fan is quiet, big and have room to breath. Not problem free though. It can ramp up and can be really absurdly noisy. When i checked the service menu i see the module is not actually that hot so i guess i can use a fixed fan speed to eliminate this annoyance. Fan is not that smart.

                  The biggest surprise here is the absence of ips glow. This panel changed my mind about ips monitors. All other ips monitors i’ve used had lots of ips glow. I had to return 27GL850 couple months back. Pure black screen looks like a TN monitor with a very good contrast(for a tn). I was harsh against ips because of ips glow and it’s affect on contrast and viewing angles. Here viewing angles are superb too. All the FALD backlight aside, this is a good ips monitor at it’s core.

                  Menus, calibration, srgb mode, how hdr functions etc… everything is spot on. Windows looks like SDR even in HDR mode enabled all the time. Gsync is flawless. Response times are great. HDR just works, no bs. Great brightness and color gamut/volume capability.

                  I was really curious about FALD. My expectation was low and it exceeded my expectations. Of course more zones would be better but 384 zone makes night and day difference compared to any other monitor. Just flip of a switch FALD improves even SDR images A LOT. There are little annoyances on desktop though it’s not meant to use it in desktop. Will see how i feel about blooming in the long run. Right now, it doesn’t bother me. It’s not that noticeable. Benefits/problems ratio of FALD is huge. Really you can’t complain. You need to be spoilt to complain about this FALD. The tech is amazing. 32×18= 576 zone would have been nice. This is 24×16 i think. Horizontal zones lacks a bit and it show especially in desktop usage. 32 inch 2304 zone version would be sick. I hope market will transition to miniled monitors quickly. I feel like X27 or new gen PG32UQX not meant to be mass produced. They are halo products. I don’t know if they need fabrication tools to mass produce and lower the cost of these.

                  The thing i would complain is the screen coating. It’s clean and clear but looks like there is a thick glass in front of the panel. I don’t know maybe this is how they achieved the superb ips glow performance. Thick coating and bezels. The stand and the overall design is good. PG27UQ looks like a joke tbh.

                  4k on 27 inch screen looks like a phone screen. It’s sharp. Texts are so easy to read. Games look gorgeous however i feel like this coating mutes it a bit. From my memory, 27GL850 pop more. I may be wrong but it’s coating was lighter i think. Overall i think most people should stick with 1440p at this size. If you have 3080 or better gpu 4k makes sense. DLSS works better at 4k as well. I saw unexpected benefit in competitive games. Things look more distinguishable, intelligible even in motion.

                  All in all, absence of ips glow and addition of FALD makes this monitor REALLY good and special. I will try to check it’s hdr calibration later with my colorimeter and vesa’s displayhdr app. There is a reference white setting in the service menu which should allow me to tune and correct brightness strength. I will also check if there is a difference between 98hz 8+2 bit vs 120hz 8+2(gpu dithering).

                  #66323
                  PCM2

                    I’ve moved your post over to this thread as it’s a more suitable place. I appreciate you’re not just giving feedback on the HDR performance of the monitor, but that is of course a key part of the experience with this one. I can certainly relate to a lot of your experiences based on my experience with the PG27UQ. It was a while ago since I used it and my screen surface description wasn’t quite as thorough as I try to be in my more recent reviews with respect to the level of ‘layering’ to the screen surface. But I do recall there being a definite ‘3D’ quality to the screen surface. I’d certainly describe it as more layered than some screen surfaces. The PG32UQX was better in that respect and had a more direct quality to its light emission, for example. And I’d say the same applies to many of the WQHD options. πŸ™‚

                    I’m glad you’re enjoying the X27 experience, including the pixel density, FALD solution and general image characteristics outside of that. Certainly a nice flavour of things to come and you can enjoy this without feeling guilty in any way for overpaying, because you certainly didn’t. I agree entirely that FALD solutions bring a lot of benefits and are definitely something people should see for themselves. They’re not perfect, but some people in my view are overly fussy or prefer to focus far too much on the negative rather than positive aspects. I agree with the competitive advantages that come from the tight pixel density (something I mention in my reviews and that’s often overlooked when people discuss or consider such models).

                    On a personal note, I kind of agree with you about the Predator design vs. the ROG Swift alternative. Some people like the ROG design and it’s ultimately very subjective, but I always found it a bit on the chunky plastic side whereas the Predator design I found more elegant, sharp-lined and metallic. Which I like.

                    #66347
                    sayhejcu

                      Thank you PCM2. I played with the monitor more and it impresses me even more. Especially HDR is ridiculously good. I measured 1250 peak brightness. There is even granular overdrive setting in the service menu. I can increase or decrease it one by one although default normal overdrive is perfectly tuned. It’s 100 in the service menu, overdrive off is 0. I can use whatever value i want. Killer feature, every monitor should have this in the OSD. Especially some monitors have terrible overdrive tuning.

                      HDR brightness calibration is pretty much accurate. I measured it via displaycal + colormunki + displayhdr app. Brightness matches the boxes up to 1000 nits and then slightly increases for 2k, 4k and 10k brightness boxes up to 1250 nits.

                      There is a maxcll setting in the service menu. I don’t know what should i set. Default is 4000. I think monitor tonemaps up to 4000 nit content. I wanna set it in a way that there is no tonemapping anymore. Hardclip above 1250 nits if possible but i’m not sure how it will behave with it.

                      Games should have better hdr settings. I tried Immortal Fenyx, pretty colorful game. However it’s extremely bright. Green grass(pretty much whole screen) under sunlight is 700-800 nits while the sun and it’s reflection 950 nit. Amateur HDR mastering. Movies look amazing. Even better than games.

                      I think my only complaint moving forward will be the hdr mastering of the games. HDR should be mastered dim room in mind. Avg brightness shouldn’t be that crazy. I believe game developer cranking up to make it look more shiny/catchy on more monitors. This is why this game looked good on my chg70 lol. Thank god i can tame it with reference white setting on X27.

                      Bias lighting on the back is extremely weak. It could have been better.

                      #66349
                      PCM2

                        Yeah, the ‘one size fits all’ approach to HDR can be annoying. And the fact the game developers are open to their own interpretation for how bright various elements are means some titles are quite obnoxious in that respect. Some games offer an ‘HDR calibration’ slider which gives you a little flexibility, but that’s really designed to match the game output with the peak performance of the display. If you lower that too much it simply dulls things too much without adding extra depth – I found the ‘Reference White (Nits)’ setting on the PG27UQ had a similar effect with larger adjustments. They blocked the setting off completely for newer revisions of the monitor, possibly because users were trying to copy other values (including with reviews) and each unit seems to be tuned a bit differently with respect to the setting.

                        And I know some were finding they were endlessly changing the setting based on the specific game or movie they were watching – sometimes too much flexibility can be a bad thing. I can understand, for a similar reason, why the overdrive slider isn’t included in the OSD. It’s a flexibility some would appreciate, but for others it leads to endless tweaking and acts as “something else to think about” without really enhancing the experience. Maybe putting it a bit deeper into the menu as an ‘advanced’ option would work.

                        But a greater range of HDR operating modes such as a ‘night’ setting or one with restricted upper end luminance without upsetting the image elsewhere would be nice. And for the games themselves, some different HDR presets which tone down some of the highlights would be good to see. I’ve become more used to high peak and sustained brightness over time, when I first saw that level of HDR on the PG27UQ I found it a bit overwhelming, but I was hardened to it over time. Having said that, I don’t spend a lot of time in a dim room using HDR and certainly not a lot of time in one ‘session’. I actually really enjoy a very strong HDR performance that can deliver great ‘pop’ and distinctions in a brighter room (PG32UQX is a great example). I found that comfortable to look at and yet very impressive and impactful. In a dim room I found it pretty fatiguing to the visual system – for some it could cause discomfort, depending on the individual’s sensitivity to brightness.

                        #66361
                        sayhejcu

                          I guess these monitors have secret revisions like you said i remember these monitors having 300 nits in sdr but i have 500 nits setting in the osd and my measurement tells me its around 580 nits. Looks like they increased the sdr brightness later. My reference white setting is locked too. I have to use service menu for it.

                          I understand what you are saying. I agree about ”advanced menu”. Service menu is kinda like that.

                          I think the goal should be maintaining similar image to SDR but taking advantage of color and brightness capabilities to show more nuanced details when mastering HDR.

                          Another thing i noticed is that even 1080p movies look sharper on this 4k monitor. 1440p have disadvantage when it comes to movies.

                          Right now having issues with tonemapping of the monitor. It uses 2 different tonemapping profile. I don’t know what triggers it which. One is 4000 nits tonemapped. Service menu reports MaxCLL: 0 when this is active. The other one is straight 1000 nits. Service menu reports MaxCLL: 1015 nits with this. Not sure which one is better. It’s so random. Sometimes it uses 4000 nits, sometimes it uses 1015 nits. It’s irrelevant to content. I have this: Mehanik HDR10 test patterns. In 4000 nits test video, the monitor sometimes show all the boxes up to 4000 nits, sometimes shows only up to 1k.

                          #66593
                          sayhejcu

                            I’m having a banding/clouding problem with the Acer X27. Honestly i didn’t noticed banding before with my monitors. I don’t know maybe i wasn’t looking for it but X27 seems like have a bit more banding than expected. Skies in movies and games can have banding not sure if it’s the source or the monitor. I didn’t noticed this with my older monitors.

                            Additionally i’m seeing weird behavior i don’t know if it’s software or hardware problem. Banding becomes much much more excessive for couple of seconds and then turns back to normal.
                            Here how it looks with my desktop wallpaper: https://giphy.com/gifs/VanaqyZXBtI1CWqwtc
                            And gradient test: https://giphy.com/gifs/uoUyVb6RBGOHKahSXr
                            Only darker parts of the gradients get affected. Can it be displayport cable problem maybe ? I need help with this.

                            Edit: 8 bit or 8 bit + frc or 8 bit + gpu dithering or sdr or hdr or FALD none of them have effect on this. Problem is exactly the same.

                            #66600
                            PCM2

                              Some degree of banding is common on a lot of source material. It can be brought out more or masked more depending on gamma (measured and depending on panel, perceived gamma). The way you describe banding becoming excessive for a few seconds and then returning back to normal sounds like a possible hardware fault. Or possibly some form of inversion artifact related to voltage control and specific patterns or shade combinations being displayed on the screen. It isn’t likely a DP cable issue, though trying another wouldn’t hurt. Does this also occur at 60Hz? What about if you disable G-SYNC?

                              Edit: If you’re viewing content on a web browser and using an ICC profile, it could just be a slight delay in properly loading the data from that. Which is normal. If it occurs without an ICC profile active you can disregard this point.

                              #66606
                              sayhejcu

                                My icc profile doesn’t contain any change to gamma. Monitor’s own gamma is great. It’s not the icc profile i think.

                                It’s not related to specific patterns and it happens at native refresh rate so it’s not gsync either i think.

                                I tried the displayport cable of the CHG70. It still happens. In fact i feel like it happens more frequently but not sure.

                                I mine with my 3080 ti when PC is not in use. What i noticed is when this weird behavior happens, my hashrate drops as well which makes me think it’s not related to monitor. I hope it’s not the monitor.

                                I first thought it was some kind of handshake problem between gpu and monitor due to displayport cable. Now i think it’s maybe driver bug or mining or mining overclock causing it.

                                It’s interesting.

                                BTW i’m having a blast with this monitor. It’s so good. Wish it was bigger. 32UQX must be amazing with smaller dimming zones and bigger screen.

                                #66617
                                PCM2

                                  I’ve updated your original post with the corrected image links. That’s definitely bizarre, I haven’t seen anything like this so I don’t really know what to suggest. I would still recommend disabling G-SYNC so the module isn’t in use and seeing if it changes anything. And make sure any ICC profile is deactivated regardless of any changes it may be making – also ensure any program which could make changes at the GPU level (such as f.lux) is disabled. I hope you can get to the bottom of it.

                                  #66623
                                  sayhejcu

                                    Thanks for the suggestions. I tried them but didn’t solved the issue. It’s a weird issue. I will update if i learn what is going on.

                                    #66764
                                    Giraffe

                                      Starting to see this 512 zone VA monitor on sale being around 1/2 the price of a modern FALD IPS display like the PG32UQX

                                      Two questions in relation to whether it’s a viable option in 2021 given the reduced pricing:

                                      1. Is the HDR implementation/experience (games and movies) much better on the newer display like the uqx?

                                      2. Would the X35 still be a good candidate for more off angle viewing of movie content? In this situation one may not be sitting directly in front of the monitor but maybe a bit more angled back/slouched in a chair viewing the content.

                                      The viewing angle video review was useful but how would it translate to the use case above?

                                      Any help appreciated, thanks in advance πŸ™‚

                                      #66767
                                      PCM2

                                        I did very much enjoy the HDR experience on the Acer X35. The dimming zone density isn’t as high as on the PG32UQX, but it has natively stronger contrast and has a sufficient number of dimming zones to create a very dynamic experience under HDR as covered in the review. The PG32UQX does offer superior HDR luminance levels, so has more impressive ‘pop’ in a brighter room (and in some scenarios a dimmer room) and is a bit more dynamic. It also has a far wider colour gamut, more appropriate for HDR reproduction, as well as superior colour consistency. But in terms of providing a good depth to darker content whilst simultaneously displaying eye-catching bright content, the X35 still does a nice job and is on a completely different level to most monitors in that respect.

                                        Your 2nd question would relate to the previous discussion we had in the other thread. If you’re going to be sitting 50cm from the screen and reclined slightly back, that’s a relatively sharp viewing angle. You may find that problematic due to the shifts in colour and contrast. For reference, the viewing angles videos are taken from a distance of ~70cm and some shifts you will notice more readily by eye than they appear in these videos. I actually added the ‘Game Scene’ to more recent viewing angles videos as I feel it gives a better representation of some of these shifts, but unfortunately this wasn’t included when the X35 was reviewed. At this point I’d say it might be worth giving it a go and seeing how you find it. With movie watching and the HDR experience being your primary concerns, it does fit nicely and if anything I think it’s more relevant as an option now than when it launched at $2500 (Β£2200).

                                        #66998
                                        PCM2

                                          An upcoming model that’s worth mentioning here is the Acer X32 FP. This one offers a 576-zone Mini LED backlight, a 165Hz 32″ ‘4K’ UHD screen and Quantum Dot backlight, >99% Adobe RGB colour gamut and VESA DisplayHDR 1000 support. It’s sort of like a cut down version of the PG32UQX, but based on my understanding and the specifications I expect the panel to be a fair bit faster. Information I’ve received from Acer Taiwan suggests a launch from February 2021 in some regions at least. As noted in the news piece, details are subject to change.

                                          #67149
                                          PCM2

                                            A new offshoot of this thread has been created which focuses on some of the models showcased at CES 2022 – ‘The Rise of Mini LED and QD-OLED‘. As noted there, see these models as forming a foundation which manufacturers will build on in the future. These technologies will eventually filter their way into models of different sizes, resolutions and price ranges.

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