October 1, 2017 at 11:05 pm #44913
Hmm, I’d love to buy U2518D locally though the fact that it cost almost as much as my GPU ($650 AUD) is a bit concerning.
As for U2515H, they’re also not available here locally which I’ll have to import it while paying close to above amount.
On the other hand, for 1080p IPS, is U2517H the best option available for my needs?October 2, 2017 at 7:33 am #44914October 3, 2017 at 10:40 am #44915
Yeah, that’s the one. Though according to your review on responsiveness, it’s mentioned that if the monitor is “set to run at a non-native resolution” the input lag will dramatically increase. Are you referring to the actual resolution set on the desktop via windows setting, and not the resolution from applications/games correct?
Also, it seems like you didn’t mention the use of ICC profile for this monitor. Is your “test setting” (excluding brightness) perfect out of the box?October 3, 2017 at 10:50 am #44916
If the monitor is running at a non-native resolution, be it through Windows or a game, the significant increase in input lag applies. If you’re just looking at a video that’s lower resolution or are using some sort of resolution scaling in the game, as long as the monitor itself is still running at 1920 x 1080 then this input lag increase doesn’t apply.
As noted in the calibration section: “This data was collated after the monitor was left to run for at least 2 hours. The monitor was left in its ‘plug and play’ state with no additional drivers or ICC profiles loaded.” Therefore everything mentioned in the table, which includes the ‘Test Settings’, are done using monitor OSD adjustments alone and no ICC profiles. If ICC profiles were required I certainly wouldn’t have been so positive about the colour performance of the monitor. They are completely unnecessary and actually counter-productive on the U2417H unless you have specifically generated them using your own colorimeter, on your own unit.October 3, 2017 at 3:29 pm #44917
Just to clarify:
– Setting non-native resolution via Windows setting or in-game options (i.e. lowering resolution to 1600×900 or 800×600 etc, while on full screen mode) = Increase in input lag
– Using scaling method such as “fit/stretch to the screen” or “keep the aspect ratio (i.e. seeing black bars)” in the game/GPU options = No increase in input lag
Is this correct?
I just don’t understand why such monitor would have this behavior. U2414H didn’t have this weird “issue” though.October 3, 2017 at 4:37 pm #44922
Such ‘scaling settings’ would exist on the monitor itself and imply you’re running the monitor at a non-native resolution. Hence increased input lag. ‘Resolution scale’ which I was referring to means downsampling or rendering the content at a lower resolution, whilst the monitor itself runs at 1920 x 1080 as normal.October 6, 2017 at 4:14 pm #44947
Alright that clears up my confusion.
I decided to go with U2417H. It matches most of my preferences and I think it’s a worthy upgrade from my current BenQ monitor.
As for WQHD, I guess I’ll try them out when their prices go down a bit.
With that being said, thank you very much for your help. I’d love to buy the monitor from you affiliation link though they don’t seem to ship them internationally and I do need to pay extra due to currency rate and Amazon’s shipping rate.November 14, 2017 at 2:34 pm #45335
Hello PCM2, I was wondering if there’s an IPS monitor with the following features:
– 144hz or G-Sync
– Good ergonomics
I’m specifically looking for a monitor with high refresh rate or G-Sync included as I would like to reduce potential screen tearing on games while keeping little to no input lags.
Though at the same time I also prefer an IPS panel over TN due to rich colours and nice viewing angles.
I couldn’t find monitors that fits all my needs as I need to bump up the size to > 27″ or 1440p. However I dislike using monitor that is larger than 25″/1080p due to personal preference.November 14, 2017 at 2:34 pm #45338
I’m afraid there are no Full HD 144Hz+ IPS-type models of any size.November 16, 2017 at 8:13 am #45361
Hey Pcm2 I’m not sure if this is the right place to ask but I’d like to confirm if you’re using stock contrast level (75) for your “test” setting on U2417H.
I’ve bought this monitor after reading your review and with sRGB preset and lowered brightness it’s a bit hard for me to adjust to this monitor as the whites are a bit bright/cool.
Before owning this monitor I was using a generic LCD monitor with colour temperature at 6400K (set via Radeon settings) where I’m used to seeing warmer temperature.
Would lowering even more brightness help me get adjusted? It’s currently set at 50. Or will I get adjusted overtime?November 16, 2017 at 8:15 am #45363
It is actually specifically mentioned in the ‘Test Settings’ section that “Anything not mentioned here, including contrast, was left at default.”
It’s very unlikely 6400K in the the graphics driver would correspond to 6400K on your old monitor. The difference between 6400K and 6500K is difficult to distinguish by eye and your eyes would very easily adapt to the change so that it appears the same. Furthermore, it’s very unlikely the monitor was properly calibrated to 6500K by default anyway and what you were seeing could well have been a much lower colour temperature.
On your new Dell, I certainly wouldn’t be afraid to lower the brightness or even try out the ‘Paper’ setting. If your eyes are a bit sensitive to brightness and you’re used to a warmer and perhaps dimmer image from your other monitor then this could be beneficial. The only time this might not be appropriate is if you’re editing images or doing any other sort of colour-critical work, where white point should be more carefully controlled.November 16, 2017 at 11:28 am #45366
My bad I must’ve been blind.
I’ve tried “Paper” preset and it’s too warm compared to what I was used to on my old monitor.
I guess my old monitor was badly calibrated which led me to getting used to incorrect colour temperature to the point where normal “6400K” is no longer normal for me. I’ll reduce the brightness even further and see how it goes.November 27, 2017 at 5:56 pm #45582
Hey PCM2 I forgot to ask this but is it advisable to turn on cleartype for IPS displays?
I’m currently using the same cleartype settings that were used on my previous LCD TN displays which, the current Dell monitor doesn’t seem to be showing any differences in terms of sharpness or blurriness of the texts.
My eyes are a bit bad (I’m nearsighted) so maybe I’m not able to notice subtle changes.November 27, 2017 at 6:10 pm #45583
It is purely down to personal preference. You should certainly notice a difference when you have ClearType on vs. off. If you look closely at the text labels for desktop icons, for example. The fact a monitor is IPS, TN or anything else does not dictate whether ClearType should be used and what setting should be used, individual preferences do.December 13, 2017 at 12:10 pm #46008
Sorry for bumping this thread again but there seems to be a software update for U2417H via Windows update.
Clicking the support link doesn’t direct me to any pages and googling such software update dosen’t show any information regarding to it.
Is it necessary to install this update?
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