[EDD_Fire]

Hi all. Have my eye on the AOC I2369VM, it looks, by the many reviews including your very detailed one, to be a very good monitor.
The only downsides to this seems to be its not incredibly quick response time and lack of flicker free mode. How big of a deal is flicker free? I currently have been using an old Samsung SyncMaster XL227OHD for a long time without any problems and I’m pretty sure that hasn’t got any flicker free option or good response time, so any decent monitor would be an improvement.

My question is, is there a better monitor around the same specs? IPS, Vesa 75/100 23/24inch. Also, is this model or the brand in general known for a lot of backlight bleeding?

[PCM2]

Hi EDD_Fire,

I’ve merged your thread with this one as there is some relevant discussion going on. Some of the recent posts have focused on 21:9 models and few are actually as affordable as the AOC or offer the VESA support. There are a few from LG which are mentioned earlier on in the thread, for example, which also feature flicker-free backlights. As noted, this is something that many users will look for because it can cause increased eye fatigue or potentially worse (discomfort) staring at a monitor with PWM used for backlight modulation. It also degrades motion performance as noted in this article.

However; you note feeling absolutely fine with the Samsung XL2270HD (which funnily enough is the smaller version of the first LED-backlit monitor I ever used). This definitely does use PWM for its backlight brightness adjustment, so if you really do feel fine with that then I wouldn’t worry about this aspect of the i2369Vm. You also seem to be willing to accept some sacrifices in motion performance and liked what you’ve read about the AOC aside from that. Sounds like it might well be a good choice for you.

[EDD_Fire]

I only want VESA because I ordered one for my current monitor, but I won’t let that limit my search for monitors and would be fine with a monitor with a height adjustable stand. I could just return it to Amazon once it arrived.
I’ve come across a monitor from LG, the 24MB35PY-B, seems to have it all + flicker free and better advertised response time, thoughts? Also really want display port, I hear there’s no need for adjusting display on Display Port, so Display Port is another must, don’t ask me why.

And sorry I hadn’t noticed you merged my thread, I would have continued posting here otherwise, my bad.

[EDD_Fire]

I do say I’m fine with decent response time, only because I’m coming from an old monitor with bad response time(advertised as 5ms, but I’m not buying any of that, I think they measured response times differently to how they do now). But I do heavily game on Rocket League, a fast twitchy competitive game. So a fast response time would be welcome.

To add to my previous post, can the 24MB35PY-B panel be overclocked to 72Hz? I got that number from you guys.

[PCM2]

As I noted earlier in the thread, I have no experience with the LG models. And you are absolutely right that you should pay no attention to specified response times – https://pcmonitors.info/articles/factors-affecting-pc-monitor-responsiveness/. But modern FHD AH-IPS panels are generally quite responsive, with a reasonable pixel overdrive solution. And you can usually overclock them to 72Hz without frame skipping, but no guarantees.

[EDD_Fire]

Okay, so I should pay no attention to advertised response times, then the BenQ GW2406Z comes back into play, as it states a 14ms response time and that immediately put me off and I disregarded it, do you know the actual response time of that monitor? Is it as fast as any other IPS? Thank you.

[PCM2]

It has a 5ms grey to grey response time specified, perfectly normal for an IPS-type panel.

[EDD_Fire]

PCM2, price difference aside, would you go for a BenQ GW2406Z or a DELL S Series S2415H for gaming?

[PCM2]

It’s impossible to answer that without having any experience with the GW2406Z. However; the main focus here should be on the matte vs. glossy screen surface of both models. If you are happy with or would like a glossy screen surface, then I feel the S2415H would be a decent choice for gaming. If your lighting environment can be controlled to a reasonable degree (avoid light striking the monitor, ambient light which isn’t too bright etc.) then glossy screen surfaces can certainly give an edge in clarity, vibrancy and perceived contrast.

I am not comfortable recommending products I don’t have any experience with and have no user feedback to share (as is the case with the BenQ). But if you did go for that model (or either model in fact) just be sure to get it from somewhere with a good returns policy. That way you needn’t worry if, for whatever reason, you just don’t get on with the monitor. We are currently adding links to various EU Amazons (including .es), incidentally, as quite a few users have requested this now. 🙂

[EDD_Fire]

Unfortunately, both monitors are sold & shipped through 3rd party sellers on Amazon.es. But I think the 30 day return policy still applies. So that’s good.
I do not mind glossy, I welcome the vibrancy from it and the monitor will be put in a windowless room. It has overdrive as opposed to the BenQ, but not a Display Port, which the BenQ does have, I’ll take that as a good trade through.
That’s great to hear you’re adding amazon EU links, does it go for 3rd party sellers too? I’ll gladly buy the DELL S Series S2415H through your website.

[PCM2]

Yes, the 30 day returns policy applies to anything sold through Amazon (be it 3rd party or otherwise). And we would be given commission whether the product is sold directly or 3rd party, yes. It sounds like your light environment is closely regulated so given this, the strong all-round performance and agreeable price it sounds like the Dell would be the one to go for.

[Ekranas]

Hello!

I ask for your help. Could you recommend something for a student’s pocket (150euro or less). I would love something with accurate colours.

Awhile back I had ASUS pa248q at my house, therefore I became very spoiled. Then I got into uni and got a laptop with a horrible screen, so soon I found myself with another one. Now the screen colour accuracy, contrast and deltas are fine, but it’s small 13.3″. Most of the work I produce on my laptop and it’s quite frustrating because I cannot keep my back straight, I keep sliding the laptop back and forth trying to find a good spot.
I would love to buy a decent screen. Quality/price ratio is key here.

I would look at something like this.
Price < 150€;
Resolution: 1920×1080;
Size: 23-24;
Usage: daily work, coding, occasional movie.
Screen finish: Any. Matte/glossy/glass. It does not matter. Anything goes as long as the screen is good.
It is possible to adjust the price range a bit, but cheaper is better.

On my own I found: S2316H
My location: East Europe.
Best place to check prices: kaina24.lt, amazon.co.uk
That’s it. Have a wonderful day and I am looking forward to your reply.
Best regards,
Vytenis

[PCM2]

Hi Ekranas and welcome,

You seem to have quite simple requirements really, and the Dell S2316H would certainly tick the boxes. It’s a perfectly decent monitor and very good value for money. The Dell S2415H is also one to consider as is the Samsung S24F350F. You said screen surface doesn’t matter, although for your uses that’s about all you can really differentiate these with. The S2316H has a ‘low haze’ (essentially glossy) screen surface, the S2415H is glossy and the S24F350 is relatively light matte anti-glare. The Samsung has a slight edge in terms of ‘out of the box’ colour accuracy as well, although that is not really all that important for your uses – all of those models have decent rich colour representation.

If you were wanting to buy from Amazon.co.uk just let me know, incidentally, and I can make sure you are pointed to the right place with the links.

[Anonymous]

Hi all.

First of all, THANK YOU for this great website. It’s so difficult to find detailed monitor reviews, I’m really happy to see this project is up and running.

I recently upgraded my parents’ old PC and built them a nice and simple mini-ITX machine so they don’t ever have to experience lag or loading times again in their life 🙂

However, the only part of the old PC still standing is an old and crappy Acer monitor which has one and only one input: a VGA port. Unfortunately, most new motherboards don’t even have a VGA output anymore, so I’m temporarily using an HDMI -> VGA adapter until I buy them a new monitor.

Now, my parents won’t be doing any gaming at all, as their main use will be web browsing + watching videos (including some live sports that my dad likes). There will also be some very light “office” kind of work with stuff like MS Office and AutoCAD, but this will be very sporadic as they’re both retired.

My budget is very limited for this as I would like to spend around 150€, however I could push it to 200€ if it allows me to pick a noticeably better option. Their current screen is 22″ and they use it from up close, so I think anything in the 21″-24″ range should be fine. Not any bigger though, as it would be very uncomfortable to use from such a short distance.

Since there won’t be any gaming involved TN panels are out of the question of course, and I’m torn between IPS and VA. I personally love the deep blacks you can get with VA panels and at least for TVs that is always my preferred option (I hate backlight bleed). But I’ve been doing lots of reading and I get the feeling that PC monitors are a different story, with the drawbacks from both VA and IPS technologies being more or less noticeable depending a lot on the quality of each specific model.

In other words – I’d love to get them something with the deep blacks and high contrast that VA panels can offer, but not at the expense of having a screen with horrible colors, excessive brightness, fuzzy font rendering, etc.

I’ve been browsing through many of your reviews, but unfortunately they mostly cover higher end monitors (>200€), so not much I can use from those.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[PCM2]

Hi,

I have merged your thread with this one as it seems to be an appropriate thread and I’d like to get things going again. Although some of the models here aren’t so relevant in your case, particularly earlier on in the thread.

The Samsung S24F350FH, though, would be worth considering strongly. Price varies wildly by region, mind, so I’m not sure if that would suit your budget.

[Anonymous]

Thanks a lot for your quick answer.

I was looking at that model, however in Amazon.es (I’m from Spain) the only version available is the S24F350FHU, which only seems to have a VGA input (no HDMI or anything else).

I’ve also seen you were recommending the Dell S2316, and I’ve found the H version (HDMI) for 187€ in Amazon too. Have you tested that monitor? Is it worth the price?

Also, these all seem to be IPS panels. Any VA panels you can recommend? Or are they not any good at this price point?

[PCM2]

The S24F350(FH)(U) is all the same model. To give it the unecessarily long model code for the EU version; LS24F350FHUXEN. It does feature HDMI, the image on image of the back is incorrect but the description is incorrect. I have used the S2316H fairly briefly, it’s decent. Especially if you like a ‘less matte’ and ‘more glossy’ screen surface (it’s technically ‘low haze matte’, so a bit more reflective than say the Samsung). But it isn’t as well calibrated as the Samsung and the pixel responsiveness is not quite as good. It’s not a bad monitor for the price, though.

[Anonymous]

Ok, so it’s weird because they actually have a “style” option that says “without HDMI” in Amazon, but it must be an error.

I see the Samsung does have a fair bit of IPS glow though, but maybe that’s the best I can do under 200€?

Any VA panels you can recommend?

What’s your opinion on the BenQ GW2470H?

Pixel responsiveness shouldn’t be a big problem since my parents won’t be doing anything “fast-paced” like gaming.

[PCM2]

Yes, it is an error. The PLS glow on the Samsung is quite normal, in line with other IPS-type models of the size and resolution.

If you feel a VA model would be more appropriate, and I think it could work nicely for what it is needed for, the GW2470H is really the best ~24″ option out there. It’s quite well calibrated, uses a screen surface that is quite light (relatively ungrainy as well) and has good sRGB coverage and decent responsiveness for a VA model of the size. As you say, the requirements in that respect aren’t so stingent anyway.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your help.

Right now I’m struggling to decide between the 3 options we’ve talked about: Samsung S24F350FH, Dell S2316H and Benq GW2470H.

The reason I’m really digging the Dell is because of its looks – glossy finish and almost no bezels would make for a great piece of furniture in the room where it’ll be used, and being realistic, I think my parents would probably appreciate that more than the deep blacks of a VA panel. However you mentioned that stock calibration is poor…

Can the calibration problem be somewhat fixed by using software calibration tools like the one built into Windows 10? Or is it something that would require an external colorimeter to make any difference?

If not, are there any other nice looking glossy and bezel-less monitors you can recommend?

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