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  • #60159
    GiantHogweed

      Thanks for getting back so quick. The monitor is admittedly worse if I look in line with the bottom of the screen. In my case, I have it on a wall mount and do turn it to watch it from bed in the evening. I angle the screen directly to where i am facing it, but will be slightly lower than the bottom. From here, the bleed is very obvious – even on dark backgrounds that are not quite black. This is 1.5 – 2m away.

      The majority of the time, it is ok, but sat a few feet away from it when playing games with dark scenes or watching films at the common aspect ratio, this bleed is still pretty obvious despite me always adjusting the height of my chair and desk so i view the center of the screen. For some reason, the patches seem to look worse the further away from the monitor you get. Or maybe it is because the closer you get, the bleed is everywhere so the patches are not then noticeable. I actually could tolerate it if it was not so black everywhere, but being as random as it is is poor in my view.

      For most uses, I use this monitor on around 20% brightness on standard and turn it right up to full when gaming. I tried turning it down which makes the game a little harder to play, but the bleed is still noticeable. In this aspect, being brighter than my S2415h at full, it is better, but the random blobs of light bleed are just too distracting. The other setting I use often when watching stuff late is the custom colour. Turning RGB down to around 30% allows me to go a lot lower than minimum brightness at the expense of the blacks becoming much more grey. With this monitor, doing this actually amplifies the back light bleed issue even more which actually is understandable. On my S2415H, it does the same, but at least everywhere on screen is completely consistent.

      I get the impression from looking up the words dell monitors and light bleed that their more recent ones are really poor in this area. (from a quality control point of view anyway – maybe some are fine) Aside from that, the image quality is superb on this. But it is enough of a reason to make me return it.

      Looking at that BenQ monitor, I will certainly read more into that. 25 inch seems more common than I realized which is the best size for me. Looks like BenQ are one of the companies that makes the same mistake I did. One of their key points about this monitor on their site is this:

      2K QHD (2560×1440) High Resolution

      Things like this probably doesn’t help people get the term correct.

      I agree about what you say about the bottom bezel. I already miss having that there. It is very difficult to tilt the screen without getting finger marks on the display itself. The bottom of the monitor is the one place I like to have an obvious bezel. One reason why I’m not keen on having them on the sides is related to cleaning them. Dust collects up at the edges as it isn’t flush and easy to wipe off.

      Although this is not a cheap option, it does look to have some good reviews. Although that model number is not the simplest to remember! 258B6QUEB/00

      Although I don’t need the USB and many other features it has, I like the fact it is another 25 inch that is QHD. Several other things about it are that it has a separate power transformer. I expect I will be in the minority here, but i often hear a buzz from monitors that have the transformer built in. I also find it better to have a narrow cable coming from the power brick. Less to get in the way, especially when I move it about on an arm a lot of the time. It also has a touch sense menu with buttons on the front which I find a bit disappointing that Dell stopped including with their monitors.

      Any other advice about this monitor – or some others would still be appreciated. At least with this, I haven’t read any complaints about black light bleed even when looking up the model number which I see all over the place for Dell monitors now.

      I’m no serious gamer. I appreciate colour accuracy far more than response time. I don’t need any better than 60hz and I don’t think I even noticed the difference when I had an AOC monitor that had a 2ms response times vs another that was either 6 or 8. I do however quite clearly get bothered by black light issues. I know that IPS displays won’t have the deepest of blacks, but that isn’t my issue. What I’m puzzled by is that I’ve had both my old Dell monitor and an AOC I2352VH which were both IPS and had a perfectly consistent black screen to them, even if the depth was a bit lacking. Is it really that hard to get a more premium monitor that does the job as well or better? Sounds a bit of a silly question, but based on some reviews on many expensive monitors, back light bleed is often a problem. Even looking at the specs, my old monitors did have the same panel type, so I really do think it is just the quality control that could be the issue. I hope other brands such as the Philips one I’m looking into won’t have this issue.

      #60161
      PCM2

        It’s definitely backlight bleed and clouding that you’re observing on the U2518D, just making sure it wasn’t just ‘IPS glow’. I appreciate you’re experienced with IPS-type models in general now so you’ll know what you’re looking at.

        BenQ at least qualifies the ‘2K’ by saying ‘2K QHD’, which is better than using the term ‘2K’ in isolation. But I agree the use of the term by manufacturers or their marketing teams is part of the problem (I mention this in my initial rant which I linked to). ViewSonic is particularly bad as they sometimes add ‘2K’ to the end of their WQHD models designations. When people see that and next to it models with ‘4K’ at the end it’s completely unsurprising they default to using the term. 🙂

        Philips models are always strangely long and unmemorable, I’ve mentioned this to the product manager on more than one occasion. But ultimately, he’s not in control of their naming conventions. Their B-line products are generally very solid and whilst it doesn’t guarantee good dark uniformity, I certainly think the nice solid bottom bezel and robust screen design in general won’t hurt.

        #60167
        GiantHogweed

          Well, I’m hoping that if I go for a totally different brand, it is unlikely that I’ll have the back light bleed to the extent it was visible on mine. It may not be a problem in offices at all as well as many other places. I’m just quite shocked by the number of complaints and pictures of this very monitor I’ve found on Dell’s site about the bleed that is even worse than mine. The fact that the two other monitors I mention were both IPS, under £130 and had a perfectly balanced black screen, I find both this problem and the build quality quite hard to believe. I really do wonder if I may be starting to agree with one of the points someone made on one of Dell’s forums. Since the review of this monitor on this site, I’m wondering if Dell has released a very bad batch of these monitors with very poor quality control. I am certain these things would have been picked up on if they were line this at the time the review on this site was done. As I mentioned, even the plastic around the edge of the screen is barely glued in place properly on mine.

          I never really knew Philips made monitors. They certainly don’t seem to be one of the main companies out there. This one seems to be on expert reviews as one of their best buys so hopefully that indicates it is decent. Looking at the user manual, the menu also has enough of the features I would want as well as some extras that will likely just be a bonus. What I don’t know is if Philips make their own panels or get them from LG or Samsung which is what Dell seem to do.

          I’ll return my faulty Dell monitor and see how long I can tolerate the issue with my S2415h while doing a bit more research. The Philips one looks pretty good so far, just doesn’t look to be a very well known monitor.

          #60170
          PCM2

            I’ve made the point elsewhere on the forum with relation to the U2719D. But the reason you see so many complaints about Dell products is that they’re very popular and they have a very visible forum which becomes a cesspool for such issues. I agree the models being discussed are more prone to uniformity issues, but I also think it’s easy to demonise them unfairly and that you need to be aware that there’s a heck of a lot of positive feedback and experiences which you won’t see reported so readily. Interestingly the models under their Alienware sub-brand are widely praised for ‘quality control’, uniformity and suchlike – so I’m certainly not trying to dismiss some of the valid criticism out there directed towards their UltraSharp series. They built up a bit of a reputation with the UltraSharp series, they used to be considered well above average in terms of quality control and a real go-to in that respect. Things seem to have taken a turn for the worse due to the quest for ‘super thin bezels’ and ‘slim screens’. With even slimmer bezels including the bottom one now becoming a key differentiator for newer UltraSharps, such as the U2719D.

            Philips are certainly not as large or ‘popular’ as Dell as a brand, although they are part of a brand umbrella which also includes AOC. A company with some of the world’s best-selling gaming monitors, increasingly making a name for themselves in that field. Philips focuses more on the business side of things, but they have a rapidly expanding line-up and are quite popular in various mainland European countries and North America. They don’t manufacture their own panels, they source them from various manufacturers including LG, AUO, Innolux, BOE, Panda and Samsung. In other words, they’re open to using a broad range of panels to suit different budgets and product types. They often use CELLs (panels without backlight component) and package them in their TPV factories with custom backlights. A common selling point for Philips and AOC products is the wide colour gamut – they often take panels which others will put a standard gamut backlight on and work on expanding that gamut. The AOC 24G2(U) is a very good recent example of this, the only product with that particular panel that offers a wide colour gamut. The ‘G1’ and ‘G2’ monitor series are largely responsible for their recent rise as the “world’s number one selling gaming monitor brand” – they’re extremely competitive with their price to performance ratio. Sorry for the slight AOC deviation there, but it could be of interest and relevant to this thread.

            #60172
            GiantHogweed

              You do have a point there regarding just how popular Dell monitors are. And their forums also are still easy to access with the issues from a couple of years ago, though in my case, i have the same problem. I guess that if other companies had a similar site and forum and such popular monitors, some people probably will have found some small problem and possibly put others off.

              I certainly still see plenty of positives from this monitor. The day I got it (during the day when it was bright), i noticed how much easier it was to see. This wasn’t even related to the fact it wasn’t glossy compared to my old one. I’ve also soon got used to the resolution enough that now I’ve gone back to my S2415H and find everything looks oversized. Quite amazing how fast you get used to a higher resolution. There were many improvements, but whenever i used it in the evening when it was dark, without the issue even on my mind, if viewing dark scenes or black bars, these patches were noticeable and pretty distracting which is my reason for returning it. My reasoning for thinking it was a problem affecting Dell monitors more than others was just because I’d found so many reviews / discussions on their site as well as amazon. But you made a point about them not mentioning any of the positives, which actually looks to be the case with a lot of the reviews.

              On a slightly unrelated note, I happen to do some quite detailed reviews on computer related devices and other electrical stuff. Many of them are on things I dislike or don’t rate high. But I tend to try and list all the positives that the average user will certainly find to be good points about the device – which to many people will outweigh the problems that in my case i found poor.

              It is hard to find any product whatever it is to be good at everything, I just think I was lucky with my previous monitor and a bit unlucky with the U2518D.

              This Philips monitor looks to have a nice menu on it from looking at the user manual so I’ll think about it a bit longer and then maybe risk going for that one. The main concern I have is a lot of the cost is going into the quantity of features that I just don’t need. I need 1 HDMI and power, that is it. Hopefully a lot of the price goes into build and picture too!

              #60298
              GiantHogweed

                I unfortunately seem to be going round in circles now when buying monitors. I am hoping this is appropriate for this forum as I am aware that this forum isn’t for technical help and rather advice about the monitors.

                I’ve bought the 258B6QUEB and initially, it did seem fine, but when looking at any grey or black when it is darker in the evening, such as Spotify, skype and youtube’s dark interface, the right side of the monitor has a slight brown, reddish tint to it. Luckily this does only effect dark areas. The left side looks the more typical grey rather than black. What I find really strange is that if you test it with a 4:3 video dead center it is very noticeable when under 3 feet in front of the monitor that the entire bar on each side is a different shade. If your view the monitor in line with the very left side, both edges have the brown ish tint. Viewing exactly the same on the right side, then both bars are grey. As I am aware IPS monitors have their compromises. I could actually accept if both didn’t look that black from the center, but in this case, I am quite baffled how a monitor this expensive can have such a colour shift with dark content when viewing the screen in the most realistic position. From over a meter or more, it then gets much less noticeable, or isn’t visible at all, but under normal circumstances, I don’t think you would be this far away.

                I thought I was aware of what IPS glow is, but I’m not convinced this is it. I’m wondering if it is something to do with the coating on the screen that effects / distorts the viewing angles; as viewing the content of dark scenes is far more visible when viewing the monitor at a left angle than the right. I never thought that gloss would make a obvious different when in a dark room but maybe I’m so used to it that I’m noticing not having that here too? This monitor has no visible back light bleed at all luckily, so that is not my concern.

                My next (and possibly final) option may have to be the BenQ PD2500Q, but I may have to first of all work out if my expectations are just too high. I did read the main review for this monitor that was the only professional one linked from BenQ’s site. That had some very helpful information on IPS glow from IPS monitors. I don’t know if the camera was over exposing the monitor a bit, but I’m seeing a similar effect to what my Phillips one has; the patches on the right side look brown vs grey on the left. Although they don’t mention the colour difference, They say the 4 corner IPS glow is normal. My monitor doesn’t appear to have very bad glow that stands out in patches in the corners, it is just the shift in grey / brown colour that seems to be the same top to bottom. I can imagine this issue being potentially worse when used in portrait.

                If my current colour shift issue may occur with all IPS monitors, I feel I may need to steer away from them, but then at the same time, I feel having had a cheap monitor (S2415h) without any of these issues has probably got my expectations for monitors 3 times the price quite high. If a cheap IPS monitor can manage without back light bleed or significant IPS glow, surely more premium monitors can? I’ve tried adjusting the menu and doing as much as I can but it is unfortunately just to hard to avoid seeing this.

                From the colour accuracy and viewing angle improvements I’ve noticed since having an IPS display, I’ve always wanted my monitors to have this. But if TN or VA (with the latter being unknown to me) have improved since quite a few years ago and a reasonably high end one can perform at a similar level to my old Dell monitor, I could probably go for one of them. Great viewing angles are nice to have, but are not essential, although I probably will miss them. So long as the monitor doesn’t distort in a different way viewing it from the right or left, I will probably be able to accept it. If I want a guarantee of consistent blacks (even if a bit grey) I’m wondering if I will just have to go with on of these monitors. The issue is, a great deal of reviews I read of these type of monitors is that the colour accuracy is often way off. With the amount of photo’s I view and edit, this may be a deal breaker.

                My two options size wise are still 24 inch at 1920×1080 or 25 inch at 2560×1440. I will put up with a matte finish so long as this isn’t related to effecting what I mention with my Phillips monitor has.

                I’ll see if you can suggest what I could maybe try given the situation I’m in. I’m obviously very sensitive to back light bleed, IPS glow (if it is poor) and similar. Currently, even with the defect my old Dell monitor has – which i have now learned will be a bit of ghosting from watching BBC news every morning and some issues with sub pixals, this is still less distracting than the issues with the 2 monitors I’ve just bought.

                The BenQ monitor mentioned will be my next preference. I just hope I don’t continue experiencing such poor and inconsistent image balance when things are dark.

                #60300
                PCM2

                  The issue you’re describing is probably related to ‘IPS glow’, possibly exacerbated by other issues. As described in some of our recent reviews of models with this panel, it typically appears cooler in tone towards the left side of the screen and warmer towards the right. From a normal viewing position. It can therefore affect the hue of dark shades and cause effects such as those you’ve observed. This effect is exaggerated if your unit has a fair amount of backlight bleed or clouding and also if it has colour temperature uniformity issues. Matte screen surfaces make it worse as well, because they ‘trap’ the light and cause internal reflection. If you’re using a relatively high brightness setting or sitting closer to the screen it exaggerates the issue. The intensity of the ‘IPS glow’ could be reduced on the PD2500Q due to it using a slightly different panel, with possible backlight and screen surface differences. And you may have less backlight bleed, clouding or other uniformity issues.

                  But realistically you’re likely to notice it to a degree on either model, unless you take steps to try to mitigate it. You could try reducing your brightness, sitting further from the screen and improving your ambient lighting in the evening, if any of that is practical. You’re much better off trying to make these adjustments if possible and sticking with the IPS panel type, because TN and VA models just aren’t well-suited to colour-critical work. And that isn’t something any adjustment or calibration will help you with.

                  #60303
                  GiantHogweed

                    That has really helped me out regarding what this issue is and that is is a common one regarding the colour change. Also interesting that what I thought could be the case by that it isn’t being helped by helped by a matte finish. I’m guessing then that this is one reason that my glossy S2415H had virtually none of this colour shift across it and very minimal IPS glow present. That still makes me question why a broader range of glossy monitors are not manufactured, but then it seems both of us and probably many more think this. Virtually all large or expensive TVs have this finish and are not always in an area free of reflections. I’d almost wondered at one point about looking for a small TV over a monitor but I somehow assume these will look poor up close and there probably won’t be one that is QHD.

                    Due to my old monitor being so reflective, when gaming on dark scenes, I did only use an LED strip behind the monitor on the minimum setting or even off. I probably could much more easily see the game now with a matte screen that stronger light in the room probably won’t be a distraction like it used to be, so thanks for that suggestion.

                    I also had already done as you suggested on my phillips monitor at the time and tried turning down the brightness. It does help reduce the difference in colour temperature between the two sides. It helps reduce the issue lot when turned down to the brightness I would have it under normal circumstances, but by then it is no longer helping out in the game. I have to say this colour tone change left to right wasn’t noticeable in the same way on the U2518D – despite that panel clearly being able to go brighter, so I expect they won’t all be like this.

                    Before I bought the Philips monitor, I did download the manual to have a look at the OSD menu. I checked everything it was capable of and some of the features included were one of the main reasons for buying it. The menu is very fiddly to use, but I can accept that as it does as much as I need and has plenty of extra features. Though as it is touch sensitive and you can’t feel them, I was surprised there is no pop up feature on the screen above each button telling you what they are. Using this menu in the dark is almost impossible without making mistakes. The BenQ PD2500Q looks to have the same or very similar OSD interface as Dell and they are always very user friendly at least. It also happens to have 3 programmable which is the precise amount I would want. The reason why I like these is that I do adjust the display to get the best out of what I’m doing. I like to have a custom colour option (or whatever other brands call it) for adjusting red green and blue. This allows it to go much dimmer than minimum brightness usually if you adjust the colours equally and is great for watching things late when totally dark while being easy on the eyes. Then I would use another short cut for most stuff such as browsing and other general work. Then I would use the other preset for pictures, videos and games where I like high brightness. But it may be worth also experimenting with the IPS glow feature since you mention it.

                    Regarding the panel type, that video at the bottom of the page really helps me understand how effected TN panel colours can be even if directly in view of the monitor. At least for general work and in light conditions, I can admit IPS displays are pretty much always perfect on the monitors I’ve had. As you mention it has a slightly different panel, I would just be interested to know what sort it is and the slight differences between the other monitors I’ve discussed. Then it will give me a better idea of it.

                    I much appreciate the advice you’ve given and it is helpful to know just how common these issues are. I am assuming it is the case that a great deal just won’t notice them.

                    #60314
                    thompson

                      Looks like Dell is gonna replace the S2419H/S2719H with the S2421H/S2721H, lets hope they keep the glossy screen.

                      And it seems like they will come with Freesync too, just search for the name here.

                      #60371
                      GiantHogweed

                        I don’t know how many monitors I can keep buying and returning, but being used to a glossy monitor, I am noticing the consequences of going back to matte. My issues are not 100% related to that, but I have learned from the information i’ve been given on this forum that the back light bleed or IPS glow can be made more present by this finish due to partially diffusing it out rather than let it pass though directly. At least that is the best way I can describe it. I also find that it is nothing like as firm. They claim (or make it look) like it is a hard surface which I’ve already been informed is misleading, but an issue I’m already noticing with my BenQ PD2500Q is related to just how soft and flexible the matte coating must be. I never physically touch the screen to point things out – I use the mouse to do that. However, due to the amount I am using Skype and other voice chat programs, the monitor does need cleaning every now and then. This monitor looked fine the first couple of days of using it, and then I noticed some strange smears forming a pattern when viewing dark content. Then I figured out this was the pattern of where I wiped it gently with a micro fiber cloth earlier in the day! This is nothing to do with cloth marks on the screen (there are none visible) The slightest pressure of where you wipe the screen seems to leave permanent slightly brighter shades of black if that makes sense. This can be prevented if you make extreme effort to wipe the screen with totally even pressure everywhere.

                        I am very aware that I will be far more fussy than average, but I’m simply baffled by the direction build quality seems to have gone (based on my experience) compared to monitors from 5 to 10 years ago despite having never gone for monitors this expensive. I can imagine that those who poke the screen to point things out often (of which there are many) could end up causing permanent damage and having much more noticeable backlight bleeding through in those places. With more and more touch screens out there, you will get more people these days end up touching the screen. If anything, they should be getting more well built than they used to be which from my impression certainly is not the case. I will however admit the build of the frame and everything else on this monitor feels very solid.

                        I’m guessing I have just learned my lesson. Matte screens are not for me. As I can’t find any alternative glossy monitor with a visa wall mount, I will have to put up with these issues I suppose.

                        #60380
                        PCM2

                          I clean monitors all the time. You should certainly not be leaving any permanent damage by using the correct technique. Is the monitor actually switched off when you clean it? Because it should be. Any pressure marks left should fade in a little while, they’re very unlikely to be permanent. I’d also recommend a decent but mild cleaning solution. I use something called ‘Eco Moist’, but other similar solutions are available. They also work better when the screen surface is cool.

                          P.S. It’s a VESA mount (not visa, the credit and debit card company or travel documentation). 😉

                          #60381
                          GiantHogweed

                            Hopefully this isn’t too irrelevant for this thread now we are talking about how to clean monitors!

                            I’ve always used a micro fiber cloth that came with my TV. I used to use this with some monitor cleaning stuff (can’t remember the name) but it left so many streaks and marks that I stopped using it. Ever since, I’ve just used this cloth with water and nothing else. Get it fully wet, but make sure every last drop is squeezed out. Then I just use it by putting my hand flat on the cloth and go from one side of the monitor to the other 2 or 3 times to cover the whole area. Ever since I used this method, I barely could see any evidence of the cleaning marks on glossy or matte screens. I usually did this with the monitor off, but admittedly not always. I also sometimes use it when dry first as this does a good job of removing the dust. Based on my experience, I’d always thought that the monitor cleans easier when slightly warm as the damp cloth marks evaporate quickly.

                            Regarding my issue with my new BenQ monitor was that after a few days of having it, I decided the marks from me wall mounting it should be wiped off. I did do this with the monitor off using the technique i mentioned which barely puts any pressure on the monitor at all. Then it was several hours later that the streaks of where the cloth had had slight pressure on the screen made the back light leak through a little more in dark scenes. The way I removed this was to wipe it incredibly gently and evenly with the cloth while looking at a black screen. To avoid this problem, having it on while cleaning is the only way round it I can think of.

                            Like I implied, I don’t think me wiping it will be anything like the amount of pressure of those who touch screens which on my monitor I am certain will leave a mark effecting the back light bleed. The only way to solve this will be like I described earlier which would be to wipe it again with 100% equal pressure everywhere.

                            In my opinion, the cause of this is that the matte cover is just a bit too flexible. Or I’ve got a duff one. In which case, my luck is getting ridiculous now.

                            #60383
                            PCM2

                              Very unlikely that the pressure is causing any issues. More likely just some oils or dirt build-up which is not being properly removed. I’ve had good luck using the cleaning solution I’ve mentioned and a clean microfibre cloth – distilled water can work well if you prefer a very gentle approach, but a microfibre on its own is rarely enough. Anyway, I agree this is a bit off-topic for this thread so I guess we’ll leave it at that.

                              #60393
                              MrBridgeSix

                                Back in April I purchased an AOC 24G2 after watching PCM’s review, unfortunately my unit came with multiple dead pixels and after 4 display changes done by AOC that did not fix the issue they decided to offer me a refund and I took it.

                                With the money I purchased the new XZ242Q from Acer, but now I’m anxious that I won’t be able to bear the slower pixel response from a VA coming from a near perfect pixel response seen in the 24G2.

                                #60396
                                PCM2

                                  Sorry to see you had such bad luck with the AOC 24G2(s). Dead pixels can and do occur with some units of any monitor, but to have 5 in a row with the issue seems odd. Perhaps AOC were just swapping yours out with ‘refurbished’ units. Only a minority of new AOC 24G2s should have dead pixels. How did you find it aside from that issue?

                                  I wish you luck with the XZ242Q, it’s an interesting display and I look forward to your feedback on that one.

                                  #60397
                                  MrBridgeSix

                                    Yes, I do believe AOC just kept sending me other units that were also returned, that’s why I lost faith in the company and decided not to get another AOC.

                                    The AOC 24G2 was good, but not great, the OSD did not allow me to get the gamma I wanted and although vertical viewing angles were good the horizontal viewing angles were no better than my old TN panel.

                                    Where it excelled was the overdrive/pixel response, I could just set it to strong and it would be really good from 70hz to 144hz making it perfect for VRR gaming.

                                    I’m hoping the XZ242Q will be similar to the C24G1 as it seems to be the same panel (23.6 inch, 1500R, 95% sRGB).

                                    #60401
                                    PCM2

                                      That’s standard industry practice I’m afraid, it’s why it’s best to make use of retailer return policies where possible. If you had that happen with an Acer monitor then the outcome would be similar. Or they would’ve given up sending you any replacements (even refurbished ones) well before that. The XZ242Q doesn’t use the same panel as the AOC – note the differences in colour gamut and 165Hz capability. It’s actually a newer variant and I believe it’s what AOC might be using in their upcoming C24G2. Even if it was the same panel, it doesn’t mean the pixel overdrive tuning is going to be the same. But I do hope it’s a natively quite responsive panel so isn’t too bad for a VA panel.

                                      #60521
                                      MrBridgeSix

                                        I’ve used the XZ242Q (P variant) for 3 days and god… That is one bad monitor!

                                        G-SYNC is completely broken with brightness and colour shifts as the framerate fluctuates, text clarity is awful, text and logos look almost out of phase just like in the VGA days.

                                        Colours were fine and ghosting was a non issue (normal overdrive strong enough to prevent smearing with just a touch of bright trails behind high contrast objects).

                                        I’ve returned it and now I’m waiting for a S2421HGF to arrive, but those are my local options for the 250USD range – 24G2 = dead pixels (confirmed to be a general issue in my country at least) – XZ242Q = subpar display worth 100USD at max. – S2421HGF – my last option at this price range, it is a TN monitor but it is a G-SYNC Compatible display, hopefully it will excel in other areas like response times and quality control.

                                        #60524
                                        PCM2

                                          Thanks for sharing your experiences with the XZ242Q. It’s unfortunate you had such a bad time with it! I now hope the upcoming C24G2 doesn’t use that panel or that AOC tweak it better than Acer did if they do, because that doesn’t sound pleasant at all. Out of interest, what GPU do you have?

                                          #60526
                                          MrBridgeSix

                                            GTX 1060 6GB, I’ve tested with both HDMI and DP.

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