July 18, 2017 at 4:30 pm #44111
Oh and another thing do you know if this is any good:
Any idea’s what other brands use this panel? Seems like a quite good “Cheapo” monitor to hold me over till OLED is out, But basically no warranty as it’s korean and I would have to pay for import fees.
Another IPS is the IIYAMA Prolite XUB3490WQSU-B1 which is £574 on Amazon but it’s only 75hz I believe, All I am after really is a great monitor for now that I could keep till OLED is out for the mainstream.July 18, 2017 at 4:55 pm #44112
The Crossover has poorly implemented pixel overdrive, bad default image setup and bad quality control. Plus as you mentioned no warranty. The Iiyama is an AH-IPS model; you were specifically after a VA model. You’d at least know what to expect from the Iiyama in terms of overall image performance seeing as it uses the same panel as the X34 you got rid of. It sounded like you wanted something a bit different, certainly stronger in the contrast department.July 18, 2017 at 9:05 pm #44120
I would wait for the pg35vq or the Acer equvielant especially at this time. New tech is so close finally. Even though they might get delayed like ALL monitors always doesJuly 18, 2017 at 9:17 pm #44121July 18, 2017 at 9:21 pm #44122
I will admit i didnt read the entire thread – but im guessing they will cost around 1500 dollars 🙂 might be a bit naive, but its VA panel and anymore than that will be ridiculous since you will almost be entering OLED tv marked pricesJuly 18, 2017 at 9:29 pm #44123
I don’t blame you for missing that… Actually I didn’t even see the last post on page 5 (sorry Helico).
The panel used on the ASUS PG348Q is exactly the same as that used on the X34. No difference whatsoever. It’s also exactly the same panel used on the Dell U3415W and other 34″ AH-IPS models with the same curvature (the LG Display LM340UW2-SSA1). It is 8-bit + FRC dithering, but that’s neither here nor there. The difference between that and an actual 10-bit panel (which are as rare as flying pigs these days) is negligible, especially when gaming. It sounds like you may need to think about your priorities and think about what you did and didn’t like about the Acer X34. Forget dead pixels, they can and do occur on any monitor model. And then take a look at this article with those things in mind – https://pcmonitors.info/others/ips-vs-va-100hz-ultrawides/.November 28, 2017 at 10:13 pm #45594
I have been looking for a big (32″+) ultrawide monitor.
3440×1440 and 100+ hz.
I also want to use freesync.
Those three on the topic are now my top 3 choices. Any thoughts? XG35VQ hasnt been mentioned here before (I think) and really would like to hear what you guys think.
Any other monitors fitting my demands?November 28, 2017 at 10:22 pm #45597
I’ve put your post here as there is relevant discussion. Bear in mind the following:
– The ASUS XG35VQ uses a borderless version of panel used on the AOC. The only real advantage of the AOC over the models that use the Samsung SVA panels, in my view, is the presence of G-SYNC. The ASUS XG35VQ lacks that. So you’re left with an inferior panel that has worse colour consistency, an inferior colour gamut and slightly worse pixel responsiveness (perhaps – may depend on the overdrive tuning to an extent). That’s why I haven’t wasted my time writing a news piece on it and have no interest in reviewing it. It does offer a stobe backlight mode, but it remains to be seen how well that would work and it’s not something most users are actually interested in anyway. Especially when limited to 100Hz, which isn’t great for flickering.November 29, 2017 at 10:34 pm #45602
Thank you for the quick reply. I guess I’ll try to find good offers for Samsung C34F791 first and Asus MX34VQ second.December 14, 2017 at 10:18 pm #46023
Prices have changed and currently Samsung C34H890 is actually cheaper for me than C34F791. I noticed that you are keeping an eye on C34H890 too but haven’t reviewed it yet.
Any thoughts on C34F791 vs C34H890?
C34F791 has quantum dot and C34H890 usb-c.. Otherwise they seem pretty identical to me. I am not the tech guru though 🙂December 15, 2017 at 8:07 am #46025
The C34H890 uses the same panel as the MX34VQ, so a lot of that comparison (linked to in my previous post) is still valid here. So compared to the C34F791, it does indeed lack Quantum Dots which means it has a narrower colour gamut and displays things in a less saturated and vibrant way. It also has less of a steep curve (1800R vs. 1500R). We were originally going to review it, but the sample was never delivered and now have got plenty of others to review so may not get around to it.January 4, 2018 at 12:55 pm #46394
Hello everyone, I found this site while I was looking for gaming monitors and I have to say it is probably the best monitor review site I’ve stumbled upon, especially beacause of the videos on pixel response times that are really useful. Even though this particular monitor is not reviewed on your site, I was wondering for your and the communities opinion of it. I heard that it has zero lag and very low response times but how are the colors and contrast compared to the Samsung C34F791? For those who have bought the alienware how do you think it performes, do you regret buying it, are you pleased with it? Also will you be reviewing this monitor any time soon?January 4, 2018 at 1:08 pm #46397
Hi hasafz and welcome,
I have merged your thread with this one as there is relevant discussion on how the IPS and VA UltraWides compare. I would also advise reading this post which summarises key differences. Some additional thoughts related specifically to the Dell Alienware AW3418DW and Samsung C34F791 and the questions you asked:
– Yes, contrast is stronger on the Samsung. ~2400:1 after calibration vs. ~850:1. That plus a lack of ‘IPS glow’ is very appealing to some users.
– The Dell is indeed more responsive. And unlike the overclocked 60Hz @100Hz IPS panels used in its predecessor, it doesn’t have obvious interlace pattern artifacts (‘scan lines’) specific to higher refresh rates.
– G-SYNC is a nice feature, but not essential depending on your sensitivity to tearing and stuttering, your system and the games you play (plus settings you like to use). Same for FreeSync.
– The Dell has very poor ‘out of the box’ gamma handling and no way to properly correct this out of the box. It makes shades too dark and further reduced visibility in dark areas, which doesn’t help given the relatively weak contrast and ‘IPS glow’. You need to rely on ICC profiles to correct this, which can be a pain. Plus a colorimeter or similar device to actually properly calibrate this for your own unit.
– The Samsung has a superior colour gamut. In general shades appear more vibrant and have superior ‘pop’ (especially where dark and light shades intermingle, due to the strong contrast). As mentioned in the review, though, colour consistency is not perfect so you lose a bit of saturation towards the flanks and lower down the screen. The Dell doesn’t have this issue.
– I personally prefer the steeper curve (1500R vs. 1900R) on the Samsung. But that’s a matter of taste and opinion.
Overall, I stand by the recommendation of the Samsung and feel it is justified by considerable positive user feedback I receive on the model. I have no plan to review the Dell Alienware model, but I would like to look at some competing models later in the year. Including the LG 34GK950G which is hopefully better calibrated than the Dell. Plus it features a ‘Quantum Dot’ backlight for superior colour gamut, just like the Samsung.January 4, 2018 at 2:29 pm #46398
Thanks for your quick reply,
I think I will postpone my plans on a gaming setup until this summer and see if there are any better options available. The samsung C34F791 is definatly a great monitor but I dont want to risk missing out on a better one, I am paying a hefty price for it after all.January 25, 2018 at 5:53 pm #46550
i just joined this site because it seems to be the only nonbiased nonoverexaggeratingofminorflaws rating site of monitors out there and it helped me a TON so thank you for running it!
im currently trying to decide between a c34f791 and a mx34vq with the c34 being 10% more expensive.
i got the mx34 first but found some really weird behaviour on greyish transitions, instead of fluent they are clearly layered and look very odd. i think im a bit spoiled from my plasma tv (i think the image quality was/is so much better than lcds) i used as gaming monitor till now but this still seems off to me?
could you share your optimal settings for the mx34?
i ordered the c34f aswell now and will compare them side by side but i want to have a level playing field between both with optimal settings and i didnt find anything about the mx34.
Edit: also would you think getting either of those now would be a good idea? i dont want to spend more than 700€ on a monitor so should i wait for something new and an eventual price drop or alternatives or are those still good buys as of today?
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