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  • #76307
    Intikhab

      Greetings of Peace
      Finally got the monitor MPG 274URF QD
      I got lucky someone bought it for me at 430 US Dollar and paid 200 extra for bringing it to me since they charged him at the airline.

      I see triple cross talking with strobing in the top side but below the frame, near the top frame it’s only double framing . And just above centre it’s triple cross talk images.

      Now time to adjust the other settings.

      Help me out here. Which setting to use:

      I have turned on MPRT Sync and adaptive sync on. Which both remains on. Now I want the max colours the monitor shows and without those too warm colours.

      If I turn the game mode on to user it no longer is set to professional pro mode adobe RGB? Why I can’t change colours?

      How to set colour modes and contrast etc and colour temperature?
      I am confused a bit between things here.

      Also MPRT_ Sync on with Adaptive sync on is no issue correct?

      I don’t want warm colours I want neutral colours. And max colour space to have that pop over saturated colours of maximum colour space this monitor allows. In TV colour space selection is separate and fine tuning is separate for this.

      HDR can’t be enabled at same time as MPRT-Sync?

      #76309
      PCM2

        It’s pointed out in the review that you can’t adjust the colour channels if using a colour space emulation setting (‘sRGB’, ‘Adobe RGB’ or ‘Display P3’). You can’t select something from ‘Game Mode’ and ‘Pro Mode’ simultaneously, they’re separate preset lists (even though some are duplicated like ‘User’). I agree this is a confusing way of doing it. If you want to use the full native gamut of the monitor and also control the colour balance then you stick to a preset such as ‘User’ – as we did for the review. You might want to review the ‘Best Settings’ video.

        Adaptive-Sync doesn’t negatively impact MPRT performance, you can leave it on no problem. The strobe crosstalk you’re describing seems similar to what I covered in the review. HDR can’t be used with MPRT – not that you should really be using HDR on this monitor anyway except for occasional variety. It’s the same with any strobe backlight setting, which makes sense given the brightness limitations when using strobe backlight settings.

        #76310
        Intikhab

          I agree as far as the strobe crosstalk part is concerned but just the difference is mine starts a bit lower from the top till the middle. Yours starts at the top and vanishes in the middle. But then again. I don’t have to deal with many issues of it since I have to no longer see the blurring after 14 years of LCD abuse on my eyes. I used to have CRT monitors back then.

          I have seen the review video but I guess that info must have been forgotten during the excitement. Now should I use the windows or Nvidia settings to reduce the brightness? Even with MPRT it’s quite bright in my room and I have 40 W white LED in the room as lighting and monitor is way brighter RN compared to that.

          Watching the best settings video. Thank you for all the help. I am happy and thanking God as well I can finally have a good monitor to see things again!

          #76312
          PCM2

            You’re welcome!

            Yeah, it’s interesting that the strobe crosstalk position is a bit different on your unit. But I guess with models like this where it’s more of a ‘bonus feature’ than anything, they aren’t too strict with their tuning of the strobe timing. If you find the brightness uncomfortable then yes, absolutely it’s worth modifying the digital brightness in Nvidia Control Panel. This won’t affect the backlight so it doesn’t reduce any ‘harshness’ for darker shades, but it will help take an edge off brighter shades.

            Hopefully you can get the monitor set up in a comfortable way and enjoy the long-awaited upgrade. πŸ™‚

            #76313
            Intikhab

              Okay I have put these settings for my monitor that works so well.

              RED=40
              GREEN=44
              BLUE=50

              CONTRAST=50

              Nvidia Control Panel Brightness=37
              Nvidia Control Panel Vibrance=65

              It works so well that I have watched Mortal Kombat using SVPmanage 3.7 free version to make the fps increased to 160fps. MPRT-Sync on.

              Most of the scenes of the movie are under red/orange looking lights to give it the out of world look. And during the say scenes it’s perfectly clear daylight. The QD colour are the first that I have seen that are that great! I have seen oled screens on phones but MEH! This is better! After watching those extra red light scenes in the movie and fights most of the time. And watching away from the screen. I do not suffer from ghost image to my eyes that I used to suffer in all other LCD’s I have seen so far including the OLED screen of phones. Those inverse images flickering around the vision after watching red sharp bright colours. I suffer from my TV which most likely have KSF phosphor or maybe VA smearing giving off that in it. I thought I bought IPS TCL TV.

              I must concur(pun intended catch me if you can), I did not catch any red fringe cringe or any other fringe cringe for that matter. Almost all LCD at works, phones etc make me suffer from that burned up afterimage in my vision on seeing strong colours like red or orange of sharp contrast etc. This monitor did not disappoint after so long! My eyes don’t suffer at all even it’s MPRT turned on for hours already and settings adjusted. My eyes suffer from PWM issues, those inverse ghosting, fringing of colours in the text etc. This monitor solves all of those. And with the help of that motion interpolation software the movies going to 160 fps also benefits from it all. I have not tried 120hz ips before but all of them used to have issues in many similar things which I have been following. Only since last 2 years I started looking at new things and this one stood out in current gen of monitors.

              I think after this instead of OLED. I would wait to get my hands on actual full screen of QD self emitting monitor in terms of tech so that light bleed and actual contrast goes up for dark scenes. Nvidia Pulsar will help in strobbing alot at least theoretically that is, hopefully brightness setting and colour space settings we can change separately as well when they all launch.

              Whoever it may concern. When you see this message passing by. It is the best monitor in terms of all of those things!

              #76315
              PCM2

                Wow – that’s really awesome to see. What a great endorsement for the MPG 274URF QD. I’m glad it turned out to be “the one” after all that searching! πŸ˜€

                #76357
                Intikhab

                  Follow up after my usage after a while.

                  I guess the monitor’s full blown brightness is reduced after usage. And a bit of my eyes used to it. So I brought the normal brightness back on Nvidia control panel. I tested around using reducing Gamma to get those blacks back but in Lagom test my lower end shades at 1 just vanish and 2 barely visible. So I even dropped that to normal. And it turns out extra pop on eye was only good for some games because they were showing those saturated colours only. Then I removed the Nvidia vibrance to default/normal and the pop was gone but most games and everywhere else the details returned for me to see which are though small but there. I was missing those and didn’t realise this monitor’s colour is so good that it was over saturated by mere % on lagom test, let alone 65% which oversaturated all things.

                  Readjusted my colour settings after doing that once more

                  RED=40
                  GREEN=45(yes it increased by 1 point otherwise I see red on screen easily.)
                  BLUE=50

                  Sharpness was 0 before. Now I increased that to 1 only. 2 give outline tinge colour cringe on texts alot!

                  No in nvidia control panel changes at all.

                  Also there is a spot in the middle of the screen where the colours and contrast are different from rest of the screen and most closer to what I want actually. I guess that’s due to using edge lighting still. Once self emitting QD full array like oled is used it would be create until then it’s the same lcd issue I guess. And that also goes for consistency of things across the screen I see differences but hey my eyes are trained on CRT. These LCD’s can’t beat my eyes in such issues. At least all sorts of distortions are gone except for strobecross talk. No overshots at least none which I could see. Clear texts now.

                  No blurring headaches due to tired out eyes because I have MPRT-sync on 24/7 on this monitor @ 160 hz. Just one thing. In nvidia control panel I put gsync to full screen and windowed.

                  But at the bottom of that page for setup g-sync says the selected display is not validated as g-sync compatible. Should I enable it still? for 3 display specific settings it says on it.

                  But in 3d settings it says Monitor technology have 2 options g-sync compatible and fixed refresh rate. I have that to g-sync compatible there.

                  I am confused about that.

                  #76359
                  PCM2

                    Yeah, I would recommend people try to get used to Nvidia Control Panel defaults if possible. Sometimes people like to ‘boost’ things up too much and that can look nice to them initially, but you will lose out on shade variety and some subtleties of the image with some of those changes. Displays are only validated as ‘G-SYNC Compatible’ if Nvidia has specifically certified them. In practice the technology almost always works in exactly the same way and as intended regardless – as long as the monitor supports Adaptive-Sync, as this one does.

                    The colour consistency of the MPG 274URF QD is pretty strong (though not perfect and not OLED or CRT like), so there shouldn’t be a distinct difference in the centre vs. just beyond that. Unless you’re sitting particularly close to the screen?

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