January 19, 2018 at 10:53 am #46506
Here you find an image comparison (left Acer, right Dell): https://imgur.com/a/OwAv7
1. the Acer is a bit darker on these photos but if I set the brightness in the game it isn’t dark anymore.
2. Further, I noticed that on the Dell I should set the contrast to 100% (from 75% standard) if the image as to be more brillant – but it is not so brillant as the Acer. According to the Lacom Test, the Dell at 100% contrast is not oversaturated. Can it be? For informations: on the Acer I did just set the color to R: 96, G:93, B: 100 and other settings are on standard as many suggested.
3. The image quality of the Dell is a very but “softer” than the Acer.
4. Again, on the PC I can clearly see that the Acer is blur at 1080p compared to the Dell, but on the PS4 the effect is not the same.
What do you think about that? Is there on the Acer an “oversharpness”?
Of course I checked the video setting on the PS4 (RGB Full range).
P.S. I like the glossy screen very much and it is for me a no problem because I’m in a room without direct light from the sun – the windows are on the other side.January 19, 2018 at 1:45 pm #46507
That’s an excellent gallery and I do see what you mean from looking at the photos (appreciated). I think it’s probably that you like the interpolated image on the Acer. The XB271HU does have very good interpolation from what I remember. It makes the image appear slightly ‘oversharp’ to my eye, but not obnoxiously so. And you may prefer that to the softer/more neutral appearance on the native Full HD Dell. Just like some users really like certain filters/effects in games and others don’t. It’s all about personal preference and I appreciate how you could prefer the interpolated image vs. native Full HD.
Regarding the contrast setting on the Dell, that is indeed confusing. When you observe the contrast gradients of Lagom you should notice that the brightest bands simply blend together. And for the white saturation test pretty much all of the checkerboard patterns should disappear due to bleaching and oversaturation. I assume from what you’re saying that this does happen on the Acer, but not the Dell when setting contrast to ‘100’? If so it might just be that the S2718H has an odd contrast control. And perhaps it could have been set to ‘100’ by default or can be set as such according to user preferences without the usual drawbacks.January 19, 2018 at 2:11 pm #46508
Your explain is correct: the image with the acer is “slightly” oversharp, but I barely notice it. For, what I just find to be better is the image quality as I described it. Now, I have to decide which image I like “more”.
The contrast on the Dell was too high: 83 / 100 is right so that the contrast gradients and the white saturation test shows the same results as with the default contrast 75. On the other side, the Acer with the default setting is just perfect. I wish the Dell or another Full-HD monitor could have such a brillant and quality image as the Acer!January 19, 2018 at 4:54 pm #46510
But are there any side, negative effects with the interpolation for example in regards to the input lag or response time? Could it be that the camera moves more “vibrant”, “not softly”, “unruly” (I don’t know how to explain this) with the acer?January 19, 2018 at 5:37 pm #46511
Input lag can be increased when running a monitor at a non-native resolution. However; this doesn’t affect the XB271HU as far as I know. And since you’re having to ask this question, I doubt you have an issue with the responsiveness under the Full HD resolution. I have no idea what you’re talking about with regards to the camera movement and how that ties in with interpolation.January 21, 2018 at 7:18 am #46532
So, after many time that I with a friend spent to compare both monitors with the PS4 Pro, I decided to stay with the Acer and not with the Dell since here the image has the effect to be more “real” or “alive”, “plastic”, “3D” and the colors are more brillant where the Dell is more “flat” and “dark”. This was also the reason that I prefer this monitor and not the Dell/Samsung for PC playing. That the image is “slightly” oversharp, I really do not notice at the distance from the monitor (about 40/50cm) and I definitely do not notice it while playing. And also if it so, I personally prefer that image quality opposite the soft/neutral image.
Input lag is excellent: as the Dell or maybe a very little bit better. With the camera I have no problem (just forgot what I wrote).January 21, 2018 at 8:58 am #46534
It’s also worth bearing in mind that you like vibrant colours and the Acer XB271HU has a superior colour gamut to the others. That would make a positive difference in your eyes.January 21, 2018 at 9:05 am #46535
Yep, that’s right: the light or fire effect on Horizon are just superior on the Acer since they almost “blend”, gets “out–of–the–monitor” in my eyes and since I just play exclusive games on the PS4, it is for me in this case in all together not worth to use another monitor.
By the way, you are for me unique in regards to the engagement, the explanations and recommendations, thank you!January 24, 2018 at 11:09 pm #46542
Hello PcMonitors! Quick Question: should I keep the freesync option off? I have a CF591 / PS4 pro (about to purchase a uh850 4k)January 24, 2018 at 11:26 pm #46546
Why would you want to do that? The PS4 Pro supports FreeSync. And which ‘UH850’ model are you referring to?January 25, 2018 at 5:51 am #46548
Great!, I wasn’t sure if PS4 supports freesync with Samsung VA monitors..🤗 thanksJanuary 27, 2018 at 5:00 am #46569
I was about to purchase the uh850 but found the LG UD59, any advise?January 27, 2018 at 8:18 am #46571
I’d advise answering my previous question. Using series names rather than model names is not helpful.February 2, 2018 at 5:20 pm #46674
Sure, they are: Samsung LU32H850 and LG 32UD59, both VA. To be used exclusively for new consoles for gaming. I definitely want a 32” 4k, (Doesn’t need to have HDR support) I like better IPS just because I don’t like black smearing in motion, but I couldn’t find any model under $500 (I accept used 😉 with 4k. Maybe you that know more about this topic can help me with a good ips 32” 4k under 500 that you have in mind, otherwise I’ll stick with a VA. thanks in advance PcMonitors!February 2, 2018 at 5:37 pm #46675
No you’re quite right, the IPS-type models would be too expensive with those criteria in mind. So as long as you’re aware of potential weaknesses and feel you’re happy with that, your VA choice should serve you well. 🙂 I’m not entirely sure on the differences (quite sure it’s the same panel), but LG are also releasing the 32UD60 very shortly. We’ll have a news article on this over the weekend.
P.S. U32H850 is the preferred shorthand designation for the Samsung model.February 2, 2018 at 11:34 pm #46676
Not sure how LG released a 43” 43UD79 monitor at budget price, but not a 32”. L ooking forward for that review, hopefully It can make it to your recommendations list for Consoles, but if you were me what UHD monitor would you pick for console 32” VA / 27 IPS so far?February 3, 2018 at 8:48 am #46677
No plans to review that one – https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/lg-43ud79-as-a-gaming-monitor/. As for your question, it’s impossible to answer. I’m not you and it’s far too subjective. You need to consider your own preferences.March 13, 2018 at 12:42 pm #47342
Good afternoon, I’m looking for a 27 “monitor mainly for playing games on PS4 and a little internet browsing through a computer and working with an excel. From the topic I realized that on PS4 it makes no sense to take a monitor with 1440p and more than 60Hz, but enough 1080p and stable 60Hz. Samsung C27F591FDI is suitable for me from the recommended price and performance, but I’m not sure that I’ll like its curved screen. What now is good in the price range of 250-300$?March 13, 2018 at 12:50 pm #47344
As noted in the relevant section of the C27F591FD review and reiterated in our other reviews of curved models, the curve itself is not something to be afraid of. It is a subtle and natural addition that is very easy to adapt to. And most users are surprised by this. They have all of these ideas in their head about how a curved monitor is to use, but they’re completely nullified once they actually use such a monitor. Having said that, if you think you’re going to spend some time viewing it from a non-central angle or are looking to do design work, it can indeed be an issue.
If you like the sound of the C27F591FD aside from the curve, the closest match would probably be the BenQ EW277HDR. I haven’t used this model myself so can’t give detailed feedback, but it is one of few flat models to offer a nice (93% DCI-P3) colour gamut if you’re after vibrant colours.March 16, 2018 at 4:55 pm #47376
Hey Man – Looking for a 24inch Console monitor. I don’t have a budget and i am looking to get the absolute best. Personal preference but i really prefer a smaller screen so anything above 24inch’s is not ideal. Do you have any recommendations for me? I have been using a old 2013 Asus and the color quality is meh and the Blacks seem to be very dark so if a enemy has blacks/gray behind them it is VERY hard to track and actually see them.
I have a Xbox one X so free sync would be nice but i really don’t care about the 4k.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
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