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- December 9, 2019 at 7:46 am #57331Lucas
Thanks for the advice. I think I’ll go for the IPS panel. I am afraid of the weird subpixels because reading text is going to be the primary activity.
Sorry about the resolution confusion I think most people use it because is shorter to write.
December 27, 2019 at 12:55 pm #57479metaforaHi, I want to know which monitor is better for playing Fortnite. Sorry for my English. Thank you.
December 27, 2019 at 1:00 pm #57484PCM2As this thread and the reviews highlight, the AOC 24G1 and 24G2(U) have distinct strengths and weaknesses. The “better” choice is open to interpretation and it depends what you’re looking for in the experience. What I would say, though, is that Fornite features many strongly saturated shades and deep and full colours. It’s pixel transitions involving these sorts of shades that the C24G1 struggles a bit with, where you get some of the ‘heavy powdery’ trailing noted in the review and some ‘smeary’ trailing in places. It may or may not bother you, but the 24G2(U) is certainly stronger in that respect. I’d also argue the more vibrant colour output lends itself well to the sort of aesthetic Fornite is going for, but that’s really a matter of opinion.
December 27, 2019 at 9:40 pm #57505metaforaHow is possible that 24G2 is so economical with an IPS panel and a 1MS response. Thanks for your opinion.
December 27, 2019 at 9:42 pm #57507PCM2Why not? There’s no inherent reason a high refresh rate IPS-type panel (ignore the irrelevant and misleading specified response time) needs to be more expensive than other panel types. The panel used is from a smaller manufacturer (Panda) that focuses more on budget-oriented products. AOC don’t tend to milk the consumer as much as some manufacturers, so there’s no reason for the product to be more expensive than it is.
December 30, 2019 at 1:55 pm #57577Danny960I have a question about freesync/gsync. I had a chance to play around with C24G1 and found out that it has brightness flickering when using gsync with a GTX 1060. For example it happened in Battlefield V during loading, snowy main menu in Total War: Warhammer 2, loading screens and gameplay in The Division 2 and many others. It also happened during huge fps swings. The displayport cable used was the one provided with the monitor. Someone on Reddit claimed a better cable solved the issue, but I didn’t test it myself.
Could someone check how well does gsync work on C24G1 with a better cable? Also if anyone has the 24G2 and an nvidia card I would love to know how well does gsync perform on it, too.
Fantastic work with the reviews, keep it up!
Cheers
December 30, 2019 at 1:59 pm #57583PCM2It’s common to see flickering during low frame rates (including menus) or rapid fluctuations in frame rate. VA models are more prone to this, so it isn’t something related to the cable. I didn’t test the C24G1 with ‘G-SYNC Compatible Mode’ because it didn’t exist back then, but we tested it with the 24G2(U) and it’s covered in the review. I don’t recall any specific widespread flickering issues. There was perhaps occasional flickering, for example during rapid fluctuations or near the LFC boundary, but this was not specific to Nvidia’s implementation.
December 30, 2019 at 3:18 pm #57586Danny960Thank you for the fast response.
In the 24G2 review you said: “A slight difference is that the floor of operation appeared to be 60Hz (60fps) rather than 48Hz (48fps).” I wonder if the same applies to the C24G1, because the flickering appeared only below or around 60 fps I believe. My pc has a GTX 1060 6GB and an i5 6500, so I can’t run some games at 60+ consistently, like Assassin’s Creed: Origins for example and the flickering became pretty severe at 40-50 fps. Is there any chance you could compare how gsync behaves at <60fps and loading screens on both monitors? After reading and watching the reviews, I recommended the C24G1 to my friend because he has an AMD gpu. I want to get one for myself, but the gsync issue seems like a deal breaker for me.
Cheers
December 30, 2019 at 3:20 pm #57588PCM2We send the monitors we test back to the manufacturer/their PR teams after review. They are only samples sent for the duration of the review, so we won’t be conducting any further testing. If you’re frequently going above and beyond the floor of operation (LFC boundary) on either monitor, you’ll get some momentary flickering and stuttering. That’s something I’ve observed on every monitor using Adaptive-Sync and was noted in both reviews. The technology works best where the frame rate is comfortably above the floor of operation, or conversely (and this is less attractive due to the low frame rate) if it stays below it a lot of the time.
December 31, 2019 at 9:19 am #57591saryan80Hello!
I’ve read this thread as well as many others on these forums, and thank you very much for your work on these reviews. It’s nice to see in-depth analysis rather than subjective comments!
I see that in your recommendations you still list the C24G1 and not the 24G2. Honestly, the VA panel is very appealing to me due to it’s high contrast, but without having ever used one before for gaming, and not being able to test it out before I buy it I’m a little worried about the relatively low pixel responsiveness of the VA panel compared to the IPS option. I’m no esports player, but I do enjoy playing FPS games along with other games and noticeable trailing would be unacceptable for me.
I assume that you must not see the pixel response time as a deal-breaker for this monitor given that you have included it on your recommended list?
I’m currently using a BenQ XL2411Z and have been generally happy for the past 4+ years, but the low contrast and washed out images inherent to the TN panel leave me wanting more. As much as I don’t want things to be way off base when it comes to color accuracy, I’m not all that bothered by any differences there may be between the IPS and VA panels in that regard. For me, it all comes down to whether the pixel response is ‘good enough’ for semi-competitive FPS play.
December 31, 2019 at 9:26 am #57597PCM2Hi saryan80,
As noted in the recommendations section: “this list is heavily condensed; look out for the ‘recommended badge’ in our reviews as well.” Both models are ones which we recommend, there’s no reason that the 24G2(U) would necessarily replace the C24G1 in the recommendations section, specifically. I certainly didn’t want to do this shortly after the review of the IPS-type model was published as it would make it look like I no longer recommend the VA model, which simply isn’t the case. I may swap the listing around at some point just to freshen things up, or perhaps add the 24G2(U) there as well. The availability of the 24G2(U) has also been a factor, it keeps on going in and out of stock. The price and availability of the VA model is better, quite simply.
I make it clear in the review and in my analysis on the forum that the C24G1 has some weaknesses in pixel responsiveness. But also that most users will find these weaknesses tolerable (it’s subjective). I’ve gathered a massive amount of user feedback on that model and that confirms these thoughts. If you’re worried about pixel responsiveness and especially as you’re used to a 144Hz TN model with aggressive pixel overdrive, though, you should perhaps try the 24G2(U) instead. Some have made that sort of switch to the C24G1 and coped just fine, but it’s something you’ll need to figure out for yourself. And put your own weighting on the strengths and weaknesses of the two models.
February 20, 2020 at 9:39 pm #58432PCM2As covered in this thread, comparing the two models is comparing apples to oranges. They both sit alongside one another with distinct strengths and weaknesses. The actual intended replacement for the C24G1 is the C24G2. Due later this year, we were able to gather a few early snippets from a press event in London today. A slightly cut down and even more affordable model with tilt-only stand and some ports such as USB removed may also be released, the C24G2E.
May 12, 2020 at 7:04 am #59375taigi100Hey,
I’m currently owning a Benq GW2470 (1080p, 60Hz, VA panel) and for the past year I’ve been thinking about upgrading it but not sure it’s worth it.
I’m looking for a 24 inch monitor, 144Hz preferably, 1080p or higher and with a significant upgrade in color quality. As per your recommendations and reviews I’m thinking AOC C24G1 .I’m mostly using it for work & gaming: coding, game development, web dev and very various types of games (from fast paced shooters to slower games). Therefore I want a good balance between something that looks awesome but at the same time is decently fast.
I don’t have a specific set budget, but I’d like to keep it under 300-400 euros in Europe.
Do you think an upgrade would be worth it? If so, what monitor would you recommend me?May 12, 2020 at 7:08 am #59379PCM2I’ve merged your thread with this one, taigi100, as this certainly didn’t need it’s own thread. The AOC C24G1 would be a large upgrade from your current monitor whilst feeling “familiar” due to the panel used. I think it would be a suitable upgrade path, but you’re not going to be seeing a significant upgrade in colour quality. Rather in responsiveness. If you wanted more vibrant and consistent colours you should consider the IPS model instead, with the comparison covered in this thread.
May 12, 2020 at 8:20 am #59382taigi100@ PCM2 hey! Thanks for the quick response. I’ve been looking over this thread actually (that’s how i found my post here 🙂 ) and I’m still a little bit lost. Tho I do like better colors, I wouldn’t like to go into the supersaturated / non-natural areas. And I do like contrast.
How does a curved monitor work in a dual screen setup with a non-curved monitor? Does it bother at all or do you get used to it ?
Also, would you wait for the AOC C24G2 ? Do you think whatever they plan on doing would significantly improve upon the AOC C24G1?May 12, 2020 at 8:23 am #59384PCM2The C24G2 will likely offer a wider colour gamut and steeper curve, whilst slightly bumping up the maximum refresh rate to 165Hz. Have you seen a monitor with extended colour space before? The extra saturation, as described in our reviews, is not the same as the “supersaturated” or cartoonish appearance you’d see if you just boosted Nvidia Digital Vibrance or upped a saturation slider on a monitor. But it still means things stray from the intended look and can look unnatural in places. if you prefer a more muted appearance, truer to the original sRGB source (which is a naturally relatively restrictive colour space) then what was it you were looking for with a “significant upgrade in colour quality” over your current monitor? What is it you don’t like about the colour representation?
May 12, 2020 at 10:44 am #59385taigi100@ PCM2
We have an LG Tv at work, don’t know the model, but windows just looks absolutely gorgeous on it. I’m guessing that’s probably an extended color space display? I really loved how that TV looked. I also really like my current phone’s display which is IPS (the LG G7 ThinQ).Yet, at the same time, in your reviews, at least the games seemed to look better to me on the VA panel. The contrast in tomb raider seemed way better on the VA (tho I can’t really tell how much was real and how much was the effect of different scenes / camera etc?) – I’m guessing for most movies the contrast matters more, but at the same time I’m watching a decent amount of animes where an IPS might be awesome.
Watching some side by sides, in games – I do enjoy and like the contrast of VA more. Not sure the same applies for office work tho.When it comes to coding, I have a feeling contrast matters – since I’m mostly looking at a dark screen with some colored text on it. But from what I see most people are saying IPS is better.
I guess I’m leaning a bit towards a VA panel, but in that case other than the higher refresh rate what would I get with an AOC C24G1 over my Benq GW2470? If it’s only that maybe it would be worth for me to wait for the C24G2 and at least get a little bit more of that.
I’m also not sure whether or not my current settings on the Benq are the best or if I can get some better colors out of it 😕 – I’m using the settings from Tom’s Hardware VZ2470H review.
May 12, 2020 at 10:49 am #59388PCM2As per the diclaimer at the start of the YouTube videos, what you see depends on the camera (which constantly compensates for what it’s recording and makes various adjustments based on that), it’s modified by YouTube and my video editing software. And it ultimately depends on the screen you’re viewing the video on. There is absolutely no way to accurately guage how a monitor looks without seeing it first hand. You need to pay more attention to what is said in the reviews and what is written in the written reviews vs. what you see in the videos. All together they will give you a good impression of what to expect, but just looking at the videos in isolation is misleading. Most LG TVs use IPS-type panels and most smartphones offer an untamed wide gamut output. The strong contrast of VA models is certainly nice, so you need to balance that up against everything else.
With respect to setting up the GW2470H, it’s certainly going to be counter-productive simplying copying the settings of a completely different model (VZ2470H). You also need to be aware of inter-unit variation and personal preferences, copying somebody else’s settings without any modification is rarely going to be optimal. You need to set things up based on what looks best to you, on your unit – or use a colorimeter. If you really are craving more saturated colour output without dropping contrast, and it sounds like you might, then the C24G2 may be worth waiting for.
May 14, 2020 at 7:05 am #59403ScyrnerThis site is super cool and I’m glad I found it!
So I’ve just ordered myself a new gaming computer, with an GeForce 2060, running an I9-9900 with 64 gigabytes of Ram, and my current screen, being a very thin piece of potato with an HDMI cable attached to it, is definitely not up to what the new rig can do. I’m upgrading from A I7-4790 with a GTX 970 and 16 gb of RAM.
I am, however, a little blind and a little cheap, and I don’t think top of the line for what the rig can do is what I wanna get.
I’ve been looking through this site, but there’s so much to know and I know so little that I find myself quite overwhelmed, quite quickly.
I’d like to find something for around 550 usd that can take better advantage of what my new computer can do, primarily for particle heavy gaming like Destiny 2.
Does anyone have any recommendations, either for a monitor, or for what kind of thing I might be looking for?
Thanks!
May 14, 2020 at 7:08 am #59406PCM2Hi Scryrner,
I’ve merged your thread with this one as it covers my key recommendations. You mentioned “color contrast” in your original thread title. I’m not sure if you meant you wanted strong colour and contrast, or whether you wanted vibrant colour output more specifically. If you want stronger contrast, that’s what the AOC C24G1 offers. Stronger colour vibrancy comes from the 24G2(U) – and a mixture of both most likely, the upcoming C24G2 (release in North America completely unknown – may be several months away). There are other models on the market that offer decent colour saturation (some way between the two AOC models this thread centres around) and contrast, such as the Samsung C24FG73 and MSI MAG241C.
You didn’t give a size preference, but 27″ variants of the models discussed here also exist. With largely similar performance to their ~24″ counterparts, but somewhat weaker pixel responsiveness.
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