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- June 13, 2021 at 7:35 am #65129Faun
Hello everyone, i have followed this forum for years but this is my first post because i really can’t decide for a monitor for my Series X. I would like to buy a TV with good gaming and hdr performance like xh90/q80t but they are out of my budget, so I decided to buy a good monitor. I was eyeing the 27” 240hz G7 but I thought if it is overkill for XSX only. I don’t have a gaming pc and probably won’t have for couple of years but I do have a ryzen apu pc which i do light gaming, like dota and stuff. I want something that pops, that has vibrant colors for gaming but also for watching movies and tv series.
So should I go for G7, or do you think something like M27Q/EX2780Q would be sufficient for me? M27Q is 225 dollars cheaper than G7 here.
June 13, 2021 at 7:46 am #65132PCM2Hi Faun and welcome,
As you’ve been following the forum you’ll no doubt be aware of this thread which covers monitor recommendations for the Xbox Series X and PS5. You’ve made a very specific comparison here so I’ll let it stand as it’s own thread. And the Samsung Odyssey G7 27″ (C27G7xT) isn’t really mentioned there, although it is a gaming recommendation more generally and will support 120Hz 1440p on the Xbox Series X.
Whether it’s worth paying extra for is entirely down to your own priorities and what you want from the experience. Part of the premium you pay for the Samsung is for the 240Hz, which is double what you can use on the Xbox Series X. The M27Q and EX2780Q on the other hand only slightly exceed its capabilities there and there’s less of a price premium attached to that. The Odyssey G7 has a lot of other potentially attractive and ‘game changing’ features, as summarised in the recommendations section and this thread. Which covers its quirks as well.
Contrast is significantly stronger on the G7 than the IPS-type options, responsiveness is actually a bit stronger even at 120Hz and you’ve got that strong curve. Which some love and some dislike, but in my experience it’s something you’d have to see for yourself and judge that way. Most find it quite a bit odd at first but can adapt to it and sometimes end up quite liking it – don’t judge that aspect from pictures and videos of the monitor. On the flipside, the IPS-type options you list offer superior colour consistency (less saturation loss near edges of screen, more consistent gamma handling as described in our reviews). The HDR capability of the Samsung is also a good step above the others and be quite nice to use. So it’s really quite an apples to oranges comparison and depends what you want from the experience.
June 13, 2021 at 12:43 pm #65134FaunDo you think g7‘s 60hz starting point for adaptive sync is scary for games that i would use 4k downscaling? And if viewing angle performance and curved screen of g7 is not a problem, would you choose it over m27q gaming experience wise?
Buying a monitor is difficult in Turkey because of currency, for example when I compare the USA prices of G7 and M27Q, M27Q is like half the price of G7 but in Turkey M27Q is 2/3 price of G7. This complicates thing when I try compare them based on price/performance. M27Q is also same price with S2721DGF and EX2780Q is about 80 dollars expensive than both.
June 13, 2021 at 12:50 pm #65137PCM2The only issue with the 60Hz hardware floor of operation, really, is a slight stuttering when the boundary is passed. The technology still works to remove tearing and stuttering below that by keeping the refresh rate at a multiple of the frame rate. As we describe in our reviews. This stuttering is less intense and will occur less frequently than what you’d get without VRR. And some people aren’t really sensitive enough to tearing and stuttering to really notice the benefits of VRR in the first place. So this occasional stuttering shouldn’t really be of great concern to them.
As for whether it’s worth it for the gaming performance, again it’s apples to oranges. As I’ve highlighted the models have distinctly different strengths and weaknesses and you need to decide what is important to you. And whether that’s worth paying a bit more for. If you like to sit in a dimly lit room and perhaps are a little distance back from the monitor but quite central then the strengths of the Samsung become more apparent and weaknesses less apparent. Colour consistency weaknesses related to the VA panel are reduced the further from the screen you sit, provided you’re sitting fairly centrally. And by that I really mean you’re not too far off to the side – sitting a bit below the screen is fine. But even if the price to performance ratio is skewed in favour of the Odyssey G7, that doesn’t change its relative strengths and weaknesses.
June 13, 2021 at 7:01 pm #65145Red_NeganI would say for console use, the benefits are that you don’t need to worry about competitive performance as much and while 120hz is nice, I feel being able to use a TV like the Samsung Q60T which is a fairly cheap TV with a very strong contrast in SDR mode is more valuable than performance numbers but of course that’s assuming one plays the sort of games or watches content that benefits.
The M27Q is a nice monitor, I do prefer Innolux panels when it comes to In-Plane switching I’ve always felt that while the contrast bump from 800-1000:1 on traditional IPS to AHVA and Innolux In-plane panels is noticeable enough that I have a preference but you may get mixed opinions on that. What I like about the M27Q is it makes a pretty decent work monitor as well as a good budget gaming monitor. Is the G7 worth it over the M27Q? well that depends, are you the type of gamer that plays games with a lot of dynamic scenes? Resident Evil Village(Funny enough @PCM2 if you’re a resi fan I think it would make an awesome game to test in your reviews, the range is amazing and man does this game demand a strong contrast and a good display in general to benefit) Red Dead, ShadowOTTR for example are games that really shine on VA, OLED and most screens that can offer the strong contrast performance which then I’d say yeah it’s worth it. If you play strictly competitive games, while the G7 does have damn good 120hz performance and even at 60hz I still would struggle to recommend it just for that use and would prob say get yourself an M27Q or even one of the Nanocell panels like the S2721DGF which goes on offer occasionally.
What PCM2 said is pretty much spot it it really is apples to oranges because those displays shine in different areas it really comes down to the kinder user you are.
June 14, 2021 at 8:59 pm #65159sayhejcuMerhaba Faun
I really don’t recommend G7. It’s quite overrated and problematic monitor. I would recommend LG 32GK850G for you but you are not looking for a PC monitor. Very good value.
G7 is 240hz so it would also be a waste for console. Curve on 27 inch also making it look really small. Not comfortable for sitback controller gaming. Better suited for face to face keyboard+mouse gaming.
I think M27Q is good, Dell S2721DGF is another good alternative which is fairly priced in Turkey. LG 27GN950 is around 7900TL but i’m not sure what refresh rate you can achieve with it because it doesn’t have HDMI 2.1.
27GP950 have HDMI 2.1 but not available in Turkey (it will be very expensive anyway)
M27Q have very wide color gamut and IPS panel. Colors will look gorgeous and vibrant. G7 is not even close.
June 29, 2021 at 6:25 pm #65245Red_NeganBoth monitors have a wide colour gamut and for video games both are oversaturating the content in their standard modes. The Current G7’s actually have better calibration with the sRGB mode having average dE’s less than 2.0 which is a big improvement over the first batches which were closer to 3.0. The difference is the G7 has a much higher contrast ratio, my unit measured at 2700:1 in it’s standard mode while other modes ranged from 2400:1 to 4000:1 within the dimming zones which makes me think Rtings had local dimming on when they tested their unit.
All of those monitors mention minus 1 are IPS or uses a form of In-Plane switching which makes them less versatile when it comes to games like RE Village etc which I struggle to enjoy on my new personally owned GN950 which I which I now use as a 2nd monitor. For varied console use the G7 has guaranteed 4K console support, low input lag, great 60hz performance and 120hz performance is among the best too. The G7 is a 240hz monitor but it’s a versatile display performing well at all refresh rates and has the benefits of being VA.
The S2721DGF doesn’t have any sRGB clamp shipping wild from the factory, Dell doesn’t even touch the colour profiles. M27Q is a solid monitor for aRGB work and pretty solid as an entry level gaming monitor, actually favour that display over the GL850 but it’s still limited in dynamic range. The LG 32GK850G is a solid recommendation but long discontinued to where there’s hardly any stock left which leaves people to buy used. I suppose it depends on ones locale, here in the UK the G7 is £500-550 which makes it the cheapest option in the 240hz segment and the cheapest flagship monitor so ends up being a bargain for all around use. It’s hard really because it region dependant but here at £550 for a G7 and £350 for the M27Q there’s a £200 difference for faster 120hz performance, better contrast = picture quality, depth, lower input lag, AV mode, semi HDR experience, better peak brightness for HDR content.
I used to think the the G7 was overkill for console but when you look at the competition which are less versatile, I actually believe it ends up being a good option. The G7 also scratches that itch for not wanting to plug in my Quantum Dot VA’s TV’s and my OLEDs although they’re most def reserved for series and movies.
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